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Bell 222 and Augusta 109
Posted by upnorth on Monday, July 21, 2003 12:45 PM
Does anybody currently make 1/72 or 1/48 kits of Bell 222s or Augusta 109s?

Several years ago I built AMT's Bell 222 in 1/48 and I'll be happy if I never see that kit again, what a dog of a kit! I think Hobbycraft Canada's 1/48 222 was just a reboxing of AMT's kit.

I know Matchbox made a 1/72 Augusta 109 many years ago, does anyone know if Revell Germany has the molds to that as they do to most Matchbox kits, and if they do, have they gotten around to a re-issue of it?

Any info on other kits of these birds would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 4:00 PM
Hi upnorth,

Revell does a 1:72 A109 kit. It's the A109K2 as used by Swiss mountain rescue organisation Rega. I have never seen the Matchbox kit of the A109 you mentioned, so I wouldn't know if it's a re-issue of that kit. I wouldn't think it though, because the moulds look very clean and up to date to me.
Besides the AMT and Hobbycraft Canada kits (which indeed are the same and indeed of a disgusting quality) I don't know of any kits of the Bell 222. Would like to see a good kit of that one, or maybe the 430?!
Hope this is of any help,

Gertjan
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 10:54 PM
I too am not aware of any other 222 kits. How about those 'recessed' panel lines. Just about as deep and wide as the Grand Canyon! I built the ChiPs version and completly rebuilt the rotor system with aluminum tubing for the rotor mast. I must admit though that I liked the paint scheme. All that black and white helps to hide some of the kit flaws. What a shame, the 222 is a beautiful bird and would be awesome in 35th scale.
Paul
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Posted by gregers on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:23 AM
Yep those panel lines on that 222 are that bad i thought it must be an old MATCHBOX kit LoL. I did the airwolf version for my nephew more years ago than i care to remember....greg
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Posted by upnorth on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:45 AM
Thanks all.

I'll keep an eye out for the Revell Augusta 109. The Matchbox one I saw was back ion the mid 1980s and had a couple of Civilian registerd decal options, one I think was a New York air taxi and I can't remember what the other one was.

I do keep hoping for a 222 in any scale, I suppose as it is largely a civilian bird its not seen as "worthy" by the major kit manufacturers.

Am I the only one who thinks some of the best looking aircraft seldom if ever wore a military uniform?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:40 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Upnorth!
Too bad nearly all helicopters are designed with a military purpose in the minds of the designers. Is it a coincidence that those rare exceptions like the Bell 222/230/430 and the S76 are such great lookers?? And according to me, even the Sea King started to look better when it was turned into the S61N version as being used by civil operators.
And what makes it tragic for us civilian modellers is ofcourse the fact that we make too small a group to be interesting for the big kit-companies: why bother to release civil birds if most of your customers are mainly interested in Cobra's and Apaches and the likes?! (no offense intended here, military modellers!)
The only thing we can hope for, however paradoxically (?) it may sound is application of civil machines in military roles. (that is what -in a slightly similar way Wink [;)]- actually brought us the B222-kit, which originally was Airwolf!).
So I hope for military applications of the S-92 , the MD600N, MD900N, AB139, B430 and EC 155, all of which I'd love to see in kit form. I'll turn them into civilian machines myself!

Gertjan
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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:56 PM
The least they could do is give us some civilian decal options.
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Posted by gregers on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:59 AM
wasn't there a conversion kit to change the seaking into the S61? i would like to do a Bristows helicopters one to go with my Bristows tiger/superpuma by Heller-bobcat...greg
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Posted by upnorth on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:41 AM
Yes there was a conversion kit to make a Sea King into an S61 and if I recall correctly it was by Aircraft in Minature about 3 to 5 years ago.

I'd like to see a new tooling of a Sikorsky Skycrane and have some civilian options for it, maybe a cement pouring bucket for bridge construction or some big logs for lumber and forestry work, a fire killer option for the Sky Crane would be awesome.
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Posted by gulfstream5 on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:29 PM
Revell also make a military version of the A.109, it's of the new variant for the South African Air Force. Got one to build sometime, mind you cann't lay my hands on it at the moment !
Cheers,
Pete
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:06 PM
Upnorth & Gregers,
I bought this S61N conversion kit a few years ago and let me warn you: it's practically useless. The only parts I actually used were the landing gear sponsons. I did find some leftover plastic parts in the bag the set came in, which later on turned out to be the vacuform (lengthened) fuselagehalves. Believe me: if you get drunk, cook some plastic and throw it against a wall, I'm pretty sure the result of that will resemble a S 61N a whole lot better than this conversion kit... Still can't believe I actually paid $.40,00 for the stuff...Sad [:(]

Gertjan
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Posted by gregers on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:49 PM
Hi GeejeeZ Thanks for the warning on that conversion kit. I will certainly not buy one...thanks again....Greg
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:24 PM
A 35th scale A109 would be rather cool. Of course with military options as well, I'm really hooked on the MH-68! Still, back home in NY we used to get two A109s over same time every day. Nice, sleek lookin helicopter.

Just my $.02
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