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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:04 AM
Frank, please keep us informed about the book
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Posted by oldhooker on Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:28 AM

 Unknownpharoah wrote:

Where could I get a copy of that print?

Hi Pharoah,

I have the originals and can make you a print.... email me. Smile [:)]

Here's the flyer I made of the 5 print series...

http://gunsagogo.org/Art.htm

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Gino,

I was thinking the same thing after I wrote that... a fitting conclusion to the story... but yet, a new Beginning as well! Wink [;)]

Thanks,

Frank

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:08 AM
 oldhooker wrote:
 richgb wrote:

Hi there,

...... but is there a book out there. Their story needs to be told.

Rich

Hi Rich,

I'm currently working on a manuscript that will have a complete Unit history from their conception in 1965, to the dedication ceremony of the sole remaining aircraft in 2000.    Intermixed throughout the history, are stories told by former crewmembers, and former Infantrymen who are alive today as a direct result of a Guns A Go-Go mission!

Movie producer Richard Jellerson (Vietnam Helicopter War: A Personal Experience), said he could make a killer 2 hour documentary on the Unit for $250,000, which would include a possible interview with the NVA soldier who fired the mortor rounds that destroyed "Birth Control" on the ground outside the Citadel in Hue!     I shutter to think of what the likes of Ronnie Howard or Steven Spielberg could do with some of those stories.... and when the book is published, who knows?!! Wink [;)]

Take care,

Frank 

(http://gunsagogo.org)

 

Frank,

You will have to add a chapter now, "The New Breed, Guns-a-Go-Go Reborn in the 160th SOAR", or something like that.

Looking forward to the book and hopefully a movie.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:03 AM
 oldhooker wrote:
 Papa-Echo-64 wrote:

 phantom works wrote:
I agree, army aviation during the vietnam made the heroic seem like an everyday occurance.........hopefully folks like cobrahistorian and others will continue to publish works that celebrate this breed of warrior that went too long without their proper place in history recognized.

True.....but lets not forget about the men on the ground and on the rivers.....they where in hell, fighting an enemy that was almost invisable, in eliments that often was umbarable.....well you all know.

 

Hi Troy,

Ask any pilot or crewmember who served in Vietnam (or any of the other conflicts for that matter) who they were fighting for... and they will tell you, sometimes through tear filled eyes, "The Grunt".       On the other side of the card, ask the Grunts who they held in high esteem, and they'll say; "The Helicopter Crews".     It is an excellent example of a symbiotic  relationship that went all the way to the heart! Smile [:)]

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.60,

  Thank you for your kind words! Smile [:)]      Ummm... don't tell anybody, but I may be able to help out when it comes to a Go-Go Patch! Wink [;)]    I'll know better what's available after the Reunion in May and let you know. Smile [:)]

Take care,

Frank


Where could I get a copy of that print?
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Posted by oldhooker on Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:48 AM
 richgb wrote:

Hi there,

...... but is there a book out there. Their story needs to be told.

Rich

Hi Rich,

I'm currently working on a manuscript that will have a complete Unit history from their conception in 1965, to the dedication ceremony of the sole remaining aircraft in 2000.    Intermixed throughout the history, are stories told by former crewmembers, and former Infantrymen who are alive today as a direct result of a Guns A Go-Go mission!

Movie producer Richard Jellerson (Vietnam Helicopter War: A Personal Experience), said he could make a killer 2 hour documentary on the Unit for $250,000, which would include a possible interview with the NVA soldier who fired the mortor rounds that destroyed "Birth Control" on the ground outside the Citadel in Hue!     I shutter to think of what the likes of Ronnie Howard or Steven Spielberg could do with some of those stories.... and when the book is published, who knows?!! Wink [;)]

Take care,

Frank 

(http://gunsagogo.org)

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Posted by richgb on Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:11 AM

Hi there,

I know there are a couple of web sites covering these hooks but is there a book out there. Their story needs to be told.

Rich

...this is it folks...over the top!
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Posted by oldhooker on Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:16 PM

 m60a3 wrote:
 Mums the word here. I still kick myself for not buying the one I saw years ago at the gun show in Dallas. Had I only known I would "meet" one of the vets from then I probably would have. The patch I saw was the scroll with "Guns a Go Go" on it. The above patch is awesome as well, with the skull.
 Again, I am happy for all you guys. The tradition continues.

                                                                                                                   -60
 

.60,

There were three different patches used during their existance....

...and the one in the above post.     Sometimes you would see Go-Go patches with black lettering...

.... these were the ones that were made by the Mother of crewmember Pike Mayo (KIA 5 May 67), because the Unit had ran out of patches, so she made up 25 of them and sent them to him to give out.

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by m60a3 on Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:53 PM
 Mums the word here. I still kick myself for not buying the one I saw years ago at the gun show in Dallas. Had I only known I would "meet" one of the vets from then I probably would have. The patch I saw was the scroll with "Guns a Go Go" on it. The above patch is awesome as well, with the skull.
 Again, I am happy for all you guys. The tradition continues.

                                                                                                                   -60
 
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Posted by oldhooker on Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:25 PM
 Papa-Echo-64 wrote:

 phantom works wrote:
I agree, army aviation during the vietnam made the heroic seem like an everyday occurance.........hopefully folks like cobrahistorian and others will continue to publish works that celebrate this breed of warrior that went too long without their proper place in history recognized.

True.....but lets not forget about the men on the ground and on the rivers.....they where in hell, fighting an enemy that was almost invisable, in eliments that often was umbarable.....well you all know.

 

Hi Troy,

Ask any pilot or crewmember who served in Vietnam (or any of the other conflicts for that matter) who they were fighting for... and they will tell you, sometimes through tear filled eyes, "The Grunt".       On the other side of the card, ask the Grunts who they held in high esteem, and they'll say; "The Helicopter Crews".     It is an excellent example of a symbiotic  relationship that went all the way to the heart! Smile [:)]

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.60,

  Thank you for your kind words! Smile [:)]      Ummm... don't tell anybody, but I may be able to help out when it comes to a Go-Go Patch! Wink [;)]    I'll know better what's available after the Reunion in May and let you know. Smile [:)]

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by m60a3 on Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:48 PM
 I got here late but let me congratulate you and buddies as well Frank. Guns a Go Go lives!! The news must have just totally gotten you by the heart.
 I am proud of your units accomplishments and look forward to the new group adding to the illustrious legend of Guns a Go Go.
 Now if I could just find me a Guns a Go Go shoulder patch/tab...

                                                                                                                       -60
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Posted by sharkbait on Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:25 PM

Thanks.

Off to the website.

Cheers

Sharkbait

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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Posted by oldhooker on Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:02 PM
 sharkbait wrote:

I thought you may enjoy these:

Found these Posted on PPrune website: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218733

 

Or... you could go to the site where that picture was taken from, http://gunsagogo.org and see many MANY more. Wink [;)]

(sorry for the plug) Big Smile [:D]

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:24 PM

 phantom works wrote:
I agree, army aviation during the vietnam made the heroic seem like an everyday occurance.........hopefully folks like cobrahistorian and others will continue to publish works that celebrate this breed of warrior that went too long without their proper place in history recognized.

True.....but lets not forget about the men on the ground and on the rivers.....they where in hell, fighting an enemy that was almost invisable, in eliments that often was umbarable.....well you all know.

 

Straighten up and fly right.....
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Posted by sharkbait on Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:54 AM

I thought you may enjoy these:

Found these Posted on PPrune website: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218733

 

"Four ACH-47A's were produced....named "Easy Money, Stump Jumper, Birth Control, and Cost of Living". Easy Money is the sole survivor...the other three were lost in combat operations in Vietnam.

Armament consisted of five .50 Caliber Browning M-2's MG's, two 20mm cannon, 2.75 inch Rockets, and a 40mm Grenade Launcher."

 

 

These from :  http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40746&page=4&highlight=160th

Some great photos here.

 

 

Mean looking Chinook

Chinook with COBRA Armament

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:21 AM
I agree, army aviation during the vietnam made the heroic seem like an everyday occurance.........hopefully folks like cobrahistorian and others will continue to publish works that celebrate this breed of warrior that went too long without their proper place in history recognized.
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Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:41 AM

Frank,

I need more sleep.....lots!

I was getting Doc confused with Hugh Mills....he flew the Loach called Miss Clawd IV.....That guy was a survivor in the biggest way.

Low level Hell

Those guys were nuts!

Straighten up and fly right.....
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Posted by oldhooker on Friday, March 24, 2006 9:30 PM

Troy... but is that the "Doc" you know? Wink [;)]

take care,

Frank

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Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Friday, March 24, 2006 8:54 PM

Thanks tons Frank!

Its always great to hear about those brave or just crazy lads of the Army air service.......man what ordeal!

Straighten up and fly right.....
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Posted by oldhooker on Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:28 PM
 Papa-Echo-64 wrote:

Hiya Frank!

Doc Halloway??!!......wow.....I didn't know that Doc was a Go Go pilot.....shows how much I pay attention the your site Sad [:(]

Wasn't Mr. Halloway a LOACH pilot as well?.....I think I have some material on him in my Squadron 'Gun slingers' Cobra book?

 

Hi Troy,

  I'm afraid I misspelled his last name... it's Holloway, Ralph L. "Doc".      I'm not sure if Doc flew Loaches.... I don't know if this is who you're talking about, here is his "then & now" photo from the site....

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And one of Doc straping into "Easy Money" just before a mission.   

About 30 minutes after this picture was taken, ole "Easy" took over 100 hits, and was shot down.     She was low, and landed hard onto Hwy 13 near Can Tho, causing the aft blade to make contact with the upper left side of the forward fuselage.    Doc was shot in the foot while exiting the cockpit, and while everyone was shooting into the rubber plantation around them, an APC rolled up to the ramp, backwards, in order to rescue the crew.     The trooper manning the .50 atop the APC got hit, and old Doc climed up there and started shooting the daylights out of the enemy... on one leg!!

Here's "Easy Money" after being recovered to Vung Tau for repairs.   

You can see the hole in the fuselage caused mostly by the aft blade (it was a glancing blow, didn't break apart the blade, so there was no resonance), and partially by the Cong grenade that went off about 20ft outside after crewmember Mike Gagere CAUGHT the damn thing as it was thrown in through the blade strike hole, and threw it right back out the same hole!    He squatted down under two flack vest that were in the cabin and escaped injury.      Had he not done that, "Easy Money" and her Crew would have bit the dust that day, because the blast would have cooked off the 100+ 40mm rounds in the ammo box where the grenade would have landed.

Here's five of the crewmembers who were involved in that action: (LtoR) Mike Gagere *Gunner* , Doc Holloway *pilot*, John Huddleson *Crew Chief*, Eddy Coberly *Gunner*, and Garnett Clark *Flight Engineer*

ooops... there I go again... Big Smile [:D]

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by Papa-Echo-64 on Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:24 PM

Hiya Frank!

Doc Halloway??!!......wow.....I didn't know that Doc was a Go Go pilot.....shows how much I pay attention the your site Sad [:(]

Wasn't Mr. Halloway a LOACH pilot as well?.....I think I have some material on him in my Squadron 'Gun slingers' Cobra book?

 

Straighten up and fly right.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:42 PM
pics didnt work. Try try again!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:31 PM

hopefully this link to a pic works..........this is one of the new special ops birds in work...

 

 

 

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Posted by albymoore on Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:36 PM

Hi Frank,

Very cool news! What an honor to have the Army's premiere aviation unit carrying the artwork and name of a historical unit such as yours. Thanks for sharing that with us, and I definitely look forward to more updates.

Cheers,

Alby

"I know what it wants now...the void has swallowed the light and the machine wants my soul"

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Posted by oldhooker on Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:35 AM
 phantom works wrote:

very cool!  I'd love to build a model of the new MH-47G someday.......great to see them honor a legacy.

I was confused by your refering to the new special forces helicopter as an MH-47F.............I think the newest line chinook is the CH-47F, while the newest S.O.F. chinook is the MH-47G.......here's a few press releases from philly....

 

G'day Phantom,

   I just quoted the information I had been sent from Mr. Rutledge; I figured he knew what he was talking about since he's coordinating the action within the Unit concerned. Smile [:)]     He did indicate in a previous correspondence, that their aircraft were going to be fresh off the assembly line, which would indicate they are getting "F" models.... ?

  I remember Doc Halloway (one of the original 8 Go-Go pilots), talking about how the first time he flew "Birth Control", and it smelled like a new car! Wink [;)]

Mark, I don't know how many aircraft they will have in their Unit, he didn't mention anything about that. Smile [:)]

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by Trigger on Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:41 AM
 oldhooker wrote:

"Guns A Go-Go" is COMING BACK!!!



And now we do the dance of joy!!!!!!Big Smile [:D]

Great news Frank, thanks for sharing!
------------------------------------------------------------------ - Grant "Can't let that nest in there..."
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:28 AM

very cool!  I'd love to build a model of the new MH-47G someday.......great to see them honor a legacy.

I was confused by your refering to the new special forces helicopter as an MH-47F.............I think the newest line chinook is the CH-47F, while the newest S.O.F. chinook is the MH-47G.......here's a few press releases from philly....

CH-47F Chinook

To extend the service life of the CH-47 beyond 2030, Boeing developed the CH-47F in the mid-1990s and began production in 2003. Boeing is conducting major cost reduction initiatives, which improve manufacturing processes and affordability. The program features improvement aimed at reducing operating and support costs; improving reliability, availability and maintainability (RAM); and providing digital battlefield compatibility in communications and navigation. The program included modernization of 394 existing CH-47Ds and production of 17 new helicopters. The CH-47F Chinooks possess the following capabilities and characteristics:

  • Improved airframe structure to reduce vibration effects
  • Structural enhancements in the cockpit, cabin, aft section, pylon and ramp -- flexible paint system with corrosion preventive compounds
  • Integrated cockpit control system -- Common Aviation Architecture System -- Improved electrical, avionics and communication systems
  • Improved Avionics with Digital Advanced Flight Control System -- Situational awareness and improved digital map display
  • More powerful engines with digital fuel controls. Two turbine engine hubs, each with a Textron Lycoming T55-L714 engine -- each with 4,900 SHP
  • A maximum payload capacity of 21,500-pounds (Based on U.S. Army requirements for the CH-47F)
  • An operating range up to 329 nautical miles
  • Modularized hydraulics and triple cargo hooks
  • Composite, manual-folding, tandem-rotor blades with three blades per hub

 

Boeing Delivers First MH-47G Special Operations Chinook

PHILADELPHIA, Pa., May 07, 2004 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] delivered the first MH-47G Special Operations Chinook helicopter to the U.S. Army Special Operations Command Thursday during a ceremony in Philadelphia.

The MH-47G is the seventh and most capable iteration of the world's most advanced heavy lift helicopter. Boeing will produce at least 37 G-models, which will significantly increase the inventory of Special Operations Chinooks. The delivered aircraft is one of three modernized under the U.S. Army's Reconstitution Program to replace operational losses of MH-47Es. Under the U.S. Army's Cargo Helicopter Modernization Program, plans call for Boeing to remanufacture and deliver 58 additional MH-47Gs by 2011 to help meet urgent Special Operations requirements.

"The delivery of the first MH-47G marks the beginning of years' worth of Chinook production and support work for Boeing and its suppliers," said Pat Shanahan, vice president and general manager, Boeing Rotorcraft Systems. "All of us at Boeing are extremely proud of the Chinook and its record of service with the U.S. Army, Army Special Operations and our allies around the world for more than four decades. Now it's time to begin a new chapter that will carry the Chinook forward for many more decades."

The MH-47G features a number of upgrades over earlier models, including more efficient engines, improved avionics, reduced interior vibration and improved air transportability. Also, the aircraft's fully integrated digital Common Avionics Architecture System (CAAS) will enable Special Operations aviators to integrate global communications, navigation, survivability and situational awareness capabilities.

"As magnificent as this aircraft is, it's only as good as the people who plan it, design it, build it, fly it and support it in a number of ways," said Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger, commanding general, U.S. Army Special Operations Command to Boeing employees gathered at the event. "Whatever piece, small or large, is yours in the Army's acquisition of the MH-47G, you are making a direct contribution to the global war on terrorism."

The U.S. Army Special Operations Command uses its current fleet of 34 Special Operations Chinooks -- 23 MH-47Es and 11 MH-47Ds -- to complete clandestine exfiltration and infiltration missions at low level, day or night, in all weather conditions. The Army plans to modernize these aircraft to the G-model configuration to better support its Special Operations mission.

Boeing builds the Chinook in Philadelphia, where more than 4,600 employees use state-of-the-art Lean manufacturing and engineering methods to generate efficiencies and cost savings in all stages of development and production. Boeing's longest running continuous production program, the Chinook first entered service with the U.S. Army in 1962 and has been used in countless military, civilian and humanitarian missions around the world.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:54 AM

WOW!!!  I'm speachless!!!  

I am delighted about this!!   This is great news!!

Is there going to be only four GoGo birds as before or is there gonna be more this time around??

This is Awsome!!

Thanks  Frank!!!

Mark

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Posted by LemonJello on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:07 PM
Always great news to hear of current units honoring those that lead the way.  Some things need to be kept going .  Keep us informed, would you?
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Posted by oldhooker on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:55 PM
 Wet Willy wrote:

Frank,

This is cool indeed, but please let Mr Rutledge know that the "Guns a go go" skull was carried by Easy Money, VC Birth Control and Cost of Living too.  It may also have been carried by Stump Jumper.

Perhaps Mr Rutledge's aircraft could wear the go go skull on the forward pylon (like the others) and be named Cost of Living II in honor of the 8 crewmembers who perished in the May 1967 crash of Cost of Living?

Thanks

Wilson Hubbell, Direct Support Maintenance Mechanic: Easy Money, Birth Control & Cost of Living   (A Co, 15th Tranportation Corp Bn., 1st Air Cavalry Division - 1966-67) 

Hi Wilson,

   He knows each of the aircraft carried the "Skull" now, Wink [;)], he was fresh off the PEO Aviation site and referencing the display aircraft at Redstone, when he wrote that.    

And yes, "Stump Jumper" also carried the "Skull". Smile [:)]

I also believe they do have plans to name some of their aircraft after the four ACH-47's. Thumbs Up [tup]

Take care,

Frank (http://gunsagogo.org)

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