MH-60K

A nice pic of a DAP in Afganistan!

Gino, Your past post about MH-60 "L" Sepent Gothic" (June)  and recently the posts about MH-60 K are a really good help to my project!, Gino, Do you have some pictures of DAP? or a MH-60 "L" S64? (Somalia), Might you send to my Email adress?

Caballo

Great pictures!!!

I search a "mach color" to paint a MH "L"  "Black", if you made a weathering or a washer with oils or acrilic paint must be paint a "little gray" to show the contrast betwen faded color and revetmens, I try with Nato Black with a bit of black and OD (Tamiya), If someone have a sugestion?  I have Model Master Army helo drab too but I prefer acrilics

Great pictures!!!

I search a "mach color" to paint a MH "L"  "Black", if you made a weathering or a washer with oils or acrilic paint must be paint a "little gray" to show the contrast betwen faded color and revetmens, I try with Nato Black with a bit of black and OD (Tamiya), I someone have a sugestion?  I have Model Master Army helo drab too but I prefer acrilics

Empeter,

great pics looks like balad right by were my unit flew out from.  we had Navy HH-60Hs thanks for posting.

Jose

Jason82nd wrote:

What color would be appropriate for showing a bird that's been in commission for a while?

The only company that I know to do these decals (OD) are Cobra company, in tree diferent scale  1/72, 1/48 and 1/35 the decals are only number a tail boom stencil, , Aztec decals in Mexico made for 1/48 and 1/72  but gray, decals are in a big sheet (interior and exterior) asked for Aldo Flores! 

Mmmmmmhhh ok! definitive! NS do not have Heavy DAP (not ESSS)? well, but look so nice at is a great idea show the "L" with a lot of weapons in a Diorama, I will keep search pictures or information about  af the Heavy DAP , If I have it! I will promise post!!!!! today I received the Academy 1/35  DAP, DAM! a lot of plastic inside!!!  thanks again friends!! I hope show the finish project as soon as posible!! 

Caballo

Yes, what you have pictured above appear to be UH/MH-60Ls with four-point ESSS installed with weapons.  These look like Sikorsky promotional pictures though.  The US military (nor any other country) does not use the four-point ESSS in the DAP configuration.  Australia does use the four point ESSS, but only carries drop tanks, no weapons.

I sent  a picture of Heavy Dap (Without Plume detector)

Somebody tell me that these blackhawk is not a "L" DAP? I know that some hawk show a variety of weapons since Iraq (f/e Italeri Desert hawk 1/72) but I never see a regular Hawk with a Flir and all weather radar nose system, or belong to a NS (160) o recently a Air force Pave hawk!

Thanks all!

Hello Mac, I have the video (VHS)  of these demostration, the helo are painted in medium green and dark green,  and it show the armament configurations and a acrobatic demostrations,  I have too a Sikorsky file about the armament configuration, my DAP picture was from the file "S-70 helicopter multi-role capabilities "armament" show the hawk with three store support systems options,

ESSS,  External store support system (standard Sikorsky option kit) four store stations inboard capacity 3160 lb each, outboard capacity 1650 lb each, system weith 674 lb

EFS External fuel support (Non standard option ) two stores station capicity 3160 lbs each system weight 435 lb

ETS External Tank support (standar sikorsky option kit) two stores stations capacity 1800 lbs each, system weight 366 lbs, large field of fire for window guns (For example MH-60 K)

weights do not include weapons provisions

Good reference Mac!

Somewhere in the piles in my office I have a Sikorsky report on the flying qualties and performance characteristics of the UH-60A with the four point ESSS and a large variety of external fuel tanks and weapons on the pylons.  Maybe some of the pics people have seen came from this test, the report had lots of pictures in it.  I'm pretty sure that the helo did not have the ability to actually fire any of the weapons, it probably just had a basic jettison capability in case of emergency.  I'll have to see if I can find it.

Phil

Not all armed Blackhawks are DAPs. I've seen plenty of photos of UH-60As and Ls that were carrying Hellfires, rockets and even stingers; but they usually had the four point ESSS installed.

adrake2 wrote:

Notice that both the heavy DAP photos show a SOAR Blackhawk with no plume detectors. This would lead me to believe that the configuration was tested in the early 90's but dropped, probably because of weight and time on target issues. I do know that the heavy DAP configuration wasn't operationally used (at least not in Desert Storm, Haiti, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq). That being said, a heavy DAP would look very cool next to a vanilla MH-60L.

Sikorsky has pitched the S-70 as an attack/utility option to a number of countrys who have limited funds and may be interested in the flexibility and capability of the airframe in that role.

Mac

Hello Aaron,  in the chapter 7 of the Durant´s book "In the company of Heroes" in the page 176 are a picture show the "first" DAP  in a heavy cofiguration, (without Plume detectors) obviusly I don´t know is actually are operationally, I could´t  imagine a heavy dap  with a Robertson Tank inside, maybe in short distance mission,  if you have information or a picture, you will be welcome, I  keep a hard "search" in the Internet and books,  but is a nice project to work!!! , I  feel alike to build it! Please, what is the meaning of  "That being said, a heavy DAP would look very cool next to a vanilla MH-60L."

Caballo 

you have a great woman!!! with a strong temper!

no truer words, have ever been spoke......