Where are the Blackhawk fans?

There has been quite a bit of Blackhawk discussion. Check this. It's what I found doing a search. 35 pages of posts.

The Huey threads have just started in recent months. Gotta love 'em!! 

I'll second chopperfan! There is tones of Blackhawk stuff and posts on FSM.

As for the kits MRC Academy put out three quite good kits my favourite being the one they lable AH-60L. All are in 1/35 and build into good looking helos, and if ya wanna spend the extra on Eduard or Cobra Co details and corrections they just turn into extra special builds and i think the deatil sets are worth getting.

Dont know much about any other scales 'cause i mainly build 1/35!!

HTH

Robert

I work on Hawks every day and I have to second wooty's opinion.  While you can find faults and omissions in these kits, they are VERY well done.  Just remember that the UH-60L kit is an A+, the DAP can be made into a better L OOB.  I haven't seen it but the HH may even make a better L than the L kit.

If you have questions, this is the place to find answers.  If you can't find what you need in the archives a short post will get you more than enough info.  There are quite a few people here that have first hand knowledge.

Speaking of working on Hawks.

Anybody seen SalBando around? His profile shows he hasn't been here since February 21.

I'll correct FSM's profile of Sal. He posted last on March 19. Still, that's 5 months. 

I loved working on the real deal, but last time I tried to put a model together was maybe 10 years ago. I got fed up with a 1/48 scale that just didn't seem right from the get go. I got halfway and lost interest. I see there are some that seem people like alot, but since, I only build 1/72 scale 'Nam stuff. Maybe someday I'll pick one up and make my old bird

"The Chickenhawk"

I may be an "old" Huey CE but still like the Black Hawks and have 2 of almost every kit in 1/35th and 1/48th scale.  One of my buddies in in a Cav Unit in Iraq right now and I asked him to send me some detail pictures of their Black Hawks with the sand filters.  Buck used to be in the 160th SOAR, D Troop a few years back when we first met online.  He came to one of the 174th AHC Reunions in 2003 and we had a few beers together.  Now, my Gunner from Nam is still in the LA National Guard and they had UH-60's for a few years before "911" and then ended up with Hueys again and he loves the Huey!  He nicknamed his Black Hawk "Crash Hawk" because it was down more than up!  Mike was CE on one of the first two Hueys on station in New Orleans Tues. morning after Katrina. Got a bit off topic, but hope to make a nice collection of the Black Hawk family one of these days!   

Thanks for the posts.

Yes, I did do a search through the forums for Blackhawk (not Pavehawk) and although there were hits, most from several years back. Nothing from this year! I found that pretty surprising. so obviously no new kits for a while. A nice new Dragon PE kit like the UH-1D would be nice :)

I didn't realise the flood of Huey threads was a recent development. The Huey threads are great, with the reference pics etc.

Screaminghelo, so the UH-60L is A+, but the UH-60 DAP and HH make better L's. Which model is the HH that you haven't seen? Is that a HH-60 Pavehawk or Seahawk or something? And you can make a good L Blackhawk with it?

The Academy 1/35 PaveHawk model is an MH-60G, HH-60G is the current designation for them.  The name kept changing from MH to HH and back and forth a few years ago when control of USAF SAR assets kept swinging from Air Combat Command (ACC) and Air Force Special Ops Command (AFSOC).  It is a good early to mid-'90s version straight out of the box.  I took one and added a bunch to it to make it into a 2003 HH-60G from Davis-Monthan AFB in OIF 1 with a unique 3-tone desert camo (about the same as DCUs).  I completed it in March of this year.  

Below are my in-progress posts and completed posts.

The beginning: /forums/744923/ShowPost.aspx

Update 1: /forums/749199/ShowPost.aspx

Update 2: /forums/755788/ShowPost.aspx

Completed: /forums/758589/ShowPost.aspx

 You can see my other 2; UH-60L and MH-60L DAP, at my Showcase II below.

HeavyArty,

Those H-60's all look great. But, I don't remember the cockpit doors swinging out that wide. It might be the angle I'm looking at it, but I that I remember, they opened a little less than that.

All the UH-60 kits out there have advantages and flaws. How you view them depends on your intimacy with real thing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. Each kit has negative buildable issues just as each kit has positive detail aspects. All of the available after market options offer you ways to meet the expectations you may have in accuracy. They aren't required at all, but that's again how easy you are to accept the kits basic limitations or omissions. Personal preference for many is the guiding choice, and each of us has different means of making choices. If you have a specific question about a specific kit, many of this forums' readers have exposure enough to answer your questions. It's difficult to answer a blind question in any case, so a little forethought will give a better chance at getting a useful answer.

Chief Snake 

leadfooterm535i wrote:

HeavyArty, Those H-60's all look great. But, I don't remember the cockpit doors swinging out that wide. It might be the angle I'm looking at it, but I that I remember, they opened a little less than that.

You are probably right.  I like the look of them and they give you a little more room to peer in through.  Oh well, that is how they are.

Anybody seen SalBando around?

Not sure why he isn't stopping in.  He usually does.  He has been active on ARC's Helo Forum as recent as today.

Heavy Arty, those are some nice models. I did some more digging and found the Super 61 done by Intruder_bass as well.

HeavyArty - If you could send me the reference shots for the  Super 64 you mentioned in another post, that would also be appreciated.

We are all here, just most are busy building Hueys right now!!

I for one have had a very busy year and have had very limited time at my workbench.

Matt

Mobe1969 wrote:

HeavyArty - If you could send me the reference shots for the  Super 64 you mentioned in another post, that would also be appreciated.

Sorry, I am deployed for about 30 days and don't have access to those files.  Try to remind me later and I'll send them to you.

HeavyArty

Will do.

Thanks

Kris

this must be the volcano you were telling me about over on the Wethawk thread

David

and lest we not forget the threads for the MH60Seirra and Wethawk....more and more stuff all the time!

David

PatlaborUnit1 wrote:

Kris this must be the volcano you were telling me about over on the Wethawk thread   David

Yes indeed! that was my Chickenhawk (the name is not in relation to the Huey Chickenhawk). I called it that because of Henry the Chickenhawk from the old Looney Tunes (underdog with a bad attitude and always came up getting it done). "You're a chicken and I'm a chickenhawk so you're my dinner!". I even made a stencil for all my cabin seats of lil' Henry carrying a scythe over his shoulder. And then when it got handed over to bravo company, some clown stenciled it all over the aircraft, anything that could be taken off the aircraft got stenciled. Flyaway gear, fairings, extrenal tanks, ALQ cover, you name it,  and then they did a frankenstein job installing a VIP CIS mumble.

Blackhawk fans,

  i found this pic in the US Army Aviation Museum Archives.  I think it is one of the Blackhawk prototypes.  Is this an unusual attitude for a UH-60 or do you guys fly like this all the time!?

    Ray
 

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Ahhhh....The joys of those new PI's, fresh from flight school!

hi guys, my first time in the helo section. i have always been interested in the modern helos, and i picked up a kit today at a raffel that i'm looking forward to building. its a really old kit, but i figured i'd try to get as much info as i can. its a 1/48 kit from academy/minicraft, # 1612, and from the looks of the box, its been out for a few years. it's listed as a UH-60A Black Hawk Tactical Transport Helicopter. but on the box cover, there are two pods of 4 hellfire missles. now i know that the black hawk can carry missles in some variations, but the instructions also have the troop seats inside it. would the correct model have the missles, side machine gun AND the troops seats in it?  any help would be greatly appreciated guys.

chris

The Blackhawk can carry Hellfires, but very, very rarely ever does.  Also, if it did, it would most likely be in the Special Ops configuration as an MH-60L DAP.  The big Army does not use Blackhawks as gunships. 

Check out my replies further up to see the differances between a standard UH-60L and the MH-60L DAP.  Also, in the DAP configuration, you are correct that the rear troop seats would not be installed. 

As a standard UH-60A troop transport, the rar troop seats and M60 MGs in the gunners' positions would be installed, but the ESSS (External Stores Support System) wings would not be installed.  They are rarely used as well.  Usually, they are only used on MedEvac Hawks with external fuel tanks for extra range.