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Really cool Knighthawk!!!!!!Click on pic for full size view
Posted by hawkwrench on Monday, December 17, 2007 12:31 AM

Sikorsky MH-60S Knighthawk (S-70A) aircraft picture

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Posted by ridleusmc on Monday, December 17, 2007 1:02 AM

Yeah, that is a very cool scheme.  I wonder why the squadron painted it up like that?

Semper Fi,

Chris

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Posted by hawkwrench on Monday, December 17, 2007 2:09 AM
Idon't know much about the Navy except that the Air Group Commander's bird(CAG bird) as it's called is painted up in a colorful scheme.It's looks like it belongs to HSC-2.Whoever that is.
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Posted by Scotty T on Monday, December 17, 2007 6:27 AM
That squadron shares a hangar with us in Norfolk.  It has recently been repainted to a, in my opinion, red, yellow, and white obnoxious scheme.  Every squadron has a hi-viz bird which is like mentioned before is known as the CAG bird.  Our squadron, HSC-84 formely HCS-4, does not have one.  HSC-2 is the training squadron for the MH-60S on the East Coast.  Happy Holidays all.  Greasy side down, and the Nr Up
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Posted by arkhunter2002 on Monday, December 17, 2007 2:48 PM

http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=DRA4605

 Dragon's recent 1/144th MH-60S release includes this scheme along with another scheme.

 Thanks for the pic,

Austin 

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Posted by hawkwrench on Monday, December 17, 2007 6:40 PM
I guess I'm gonna have to buy those models because those decals would look cool on a 1/35 scale hawk.Know anybody who has some interior shots of a Knighthawk?
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, December 17, 2007 8:39 PM

They had an ad for the 1/144 version on the back cover of Scale Modeler here in Japan, and that scheme really caught my eye!.. I had thought about it on a 1/35 kit aswell...

Chris 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, December 17, 2007 9:20 PM
Unfortunately, it isn't that easy to make a 1/35 Navy MH-60S.  You can't simply take an Academy 1/35 UH-60 or MH-60 kit and paint it gray.  Not if you want it to be accurate anyways.  The biggest change is the rotor head and blades.  The Naval versions have a different rotor head and rotor blades with a 30 degree angle at the root ends to allow them to fold.  The vertical tail is also shaped differently and has provisions to be folded.  There are lots of bumps and sensors all over the fuselage as well.  Lastly, the cockpit and instrument panel are totally different too.

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Posted by hawkwrench on Monday, December 17, 2007 10:49 PM
Heavy Arty,I looked at the pic and I can't tell the difference in the tail versus a standard Hawk.Do you have any pics of the difference between the two?.I love a challlenge,I could scratchbuild the head I think and maybe modify some 1/35 Apache blades to look more like the Seahawk's blades.MAYBE!!!
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:43 AM

Yeah, what would modeling be without a little challenge.. The people that say you cant are the people that don't.. I prefer to see people talk about how it could be done rather than its too difficult! It really is a cool scheme not to be attempted..

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:17 PM

Sorry, I don't have any pics handy.  It is different though.

I never said it couldn't be done, just that it wasn't as simple as painting a Blackhawk or Pavehawk grey. 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:34 PM

Yeah, I know what you meant, and wasn't directing my coment at you. Rather I was expressing the fact that it is a cool scheme and little bit of work shouldn't stop someone from doing it..

Chris 

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Posted by Firehawk Ordie on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:57 AM

here's a few pics

 

this is a shot of two SH-60F but the head it pretty much the same. 

cockpit

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:15 AM

Thanks for that Firehawk.. Very helpfull!

I don't know anything about Navy Helicopters, so is there a reason for the cabin to be empty?

Cheers, Chris 

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Posted by Firehawk Ordie on Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:38 AM

the first MH-60s are going to replace the CH-46 in use by the Navy.  the primary mission was logistics.  The pics are of an aircraft that was set up to have pictures taken of the cabin and cabin deck. 

A special system of rollers can be installed in the cabin to help out in loading and unloading, the cabin has hook up for an internal AUX tank simular to the Pave Hawk's, also seats can be installed like on a Blackhawk.

The Armed Helo version will have short wings for a Hellfire launcher on each side, windo mounted M240's, and a GAU-21 mounted in the cabin almost like the Pave Hawk.

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:24 PM

Now that pic certainly does look the business!

Cheers, Chris 

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Posted by Firehawk Ordie on Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:30 PM

yup they need to add a cup holder somewere!!

if you decide on a build lemme know i got a few more pics.

Jose

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:10 PM

I am actually stuck on the idea of an Aussie Army Blackhawk or Aussie Navy Seahawk in 1/35, but wouldn't know where to begin...

They just need to bring out an MRH-90 in 1/35

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Posted by Scotty T on Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:44 PM

The HH-60H already carries all of that, plus the SEALS, their geear and more gas.  I am just biased though since I was a Sh*tter driver turned Hotel bubba.  I think the 60S is a nice bird, but needs to be improved before it takes our mission in country

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Posted by Firehawk Ordie on Friday, December 21, 2007 12:09 AM

Scotty,

I know what you mean I was with HCS-5 in BIAP and Balad, did a tour with the Redwolves as well. 

The only thing the Hotel dosn't have is the GAU-21.  To bad that thing shoots as fast as a 240.  The H is the best suited for the CSAR/SPECWAR mission, the H does have a lot more legs it's a shame to see it go, keep 'em flying especialy the ones you got from 5.   

Jose 

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Posted by Scotty T on Friday, December 21, 2007 6:35 AM

Jose,

 

Will do bro, I love the missiona nd the squadron is great.  I will sent some pics out when I start heading over there. We have quite a few -5 guys in the Redwolves now and there is nothing like learning form the best. 

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Posted by Firehawk Ordie on Friday, December 21, 2007 11:44 AM

Scotty,

Hey take care while you're there and don't forget to apply mortar repellent to everything weekly!!

If the maintenance hangar is still the same you'll see my name on the board in front of the ordnance shop.

take care,

 jose 

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Posted by Screaminhelo on Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:19 AM
 Firehawk Ordie wrote:

yup they need to add a cup holder somewere!!

if you decide on a build lemme know i got a few more pics.

Jose

Are you kidding?  Those aren't grenade boxes by the ICS box, they are 4 place cup holders.  The pilot's are in luck too, drinks in the map pocket and maps everywhere else.Big Smile [:D]

I don't think that doing a 1/35 MH-60S would be all that hard.  The S is based on an L airframe.  As Gino mentioned, the biggest difference would be the head.  The fillet at the root end of the L blade would need to be cut off (all of the 60 blades are made without a square corner at the root end, the Army has that added), the spindles need rebuilding and some extra lines and wires need to be added.  As far as I know, the tail fold on the S is the same as the L so all you need to do in the back is make a folding stabilator.  There are some other minor changes like antennas, windows and mirrors that need to be made as well.  But this seems like a very doable project for someone with reasonable scratchbuilding skills.

 

Mac

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:50 AM
My wife called to tell me my kit arrived today, I'll be starting my build tonight :-) hope to finish at least the hi vis scheme in time for CALMEX in January!

David
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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:51 AM

Scotty

PM sent....

for everyone who now has the kit and is wondering as I am, is the upper deck gloss black or dark grey? the color callouts on the kit dont seem to jive with the real photo. 

 

thanks

David

 

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Posted by Scotty T on Friday, December 28, 2007 9:16 PM

David,

 Form what I remember it was a gloss black.  HSC-2 changed colors on their "CAG" bird and it is now a very gross red whit and yellow and grey....not attractive trust me.  The other gloss Black and White scheme was sharp.  Hope this helps bro.  Happy New Year....I too have the kit and love the 1/144 Dragon H-60 series.  I wish they would do an HH-60H or an MH-53E....my current and former bird.  Let me know if I can help any further

 Scotty

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 10:41 PM

Scotty Thanks Much

Happy New Year! I have had a SUPER productive day:

Went to Lowes and Best Buy, IHOP and Starbucks

Scratchbuilt 1/700  director radar for USS Trathen 40MM Bofors gun mounts x2

Scratchuilt 1:1 wood reciever block and upper grip assembly (wood ) for Return of the Jedi Scout Trooper blaster pistol.  Had to stop for the gorilla glue to dry :-)

Cranked out most of the primary assembly on one of the Knighthawks, and finished up some parts on the other. One will be OOB, the other will recieve as much detail as I can get in there in the next two weeks.  The most difficult part so far has been the two-part HIRRS units but now that I have one under my belt I have a MUCH better understanding of how to crank out the other one in short order. Basically, lay one upper half on and work on the lower half, don't try to get them done ahead of time as a subassembly, it just doesnt work right.

I will post up some pics probably tomorrow to show what it looks like so far.   

 

 David

 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:40 PM
 PatlaborUnit1 wrote:

I will post up some pics probably tomorrow to show what it looks like so far.  

 

As promised, I manged to get them both in one pic. The interior on the right is detailed with strip stock and the left is OOB. I drilled out the windows on the kit that will be detailed and added cyclics from wire. I may make the roof H rack as well as add the brake handle that hangs down. I cut out the center row of seats and added some tiny crates. I'm not done detailing but I needed to knock off for the night.

So far the kit is a breeze. About as detailed as a 1/72 kit twice it's size.

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 10:47 PM

David,

  So I leave and you FINALLY do a helicopter!!  They look great, by the way.  I can't wait to see the finished product. I really like the one you detailed. Any chance of a closer pic of the details?

     Ray
 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Thursday, January 3, 2008 6:53 PM

Thanks Ray

Yeah, well, I had that ONE abortion I was working on, the Bell HSL prototype. Never did overcome the fear of the bubble up front......  Maybe someday!

 

Ill getsome pics up as I finish it. Its gonna be a busy weekend again (as usual!)

 

David

 

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