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"Death in the Courtyard" *finished, more pics, page 15*

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:22 PM

Very interesting, have you thought about placing a canteen next to the German, or one floating in the bucket of water.  Maybe the point man and and the SS man met first, the American with his M1, the German with his canteen.  The American shot him as the rest of the squad were coming up, the Americans, shocked by the shot, begin scanning the area while bringing their weapons up reading themselves for a fight.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:35 PM
Speaking clinically: Overall, the blood is at what I'd call a realistic minimum... Dead guys don't bleed (much), so this guy went rather fast, but lasted long enough to realize what happened and made an attempt to staunch the flow... The red is about right for arterial blood as well, so it looks to me as if a heart wound is depicted... If not, it's still a serious enough wound to preclude him remaining concsious very long, and even if it isn't immediately fatal, most of the blood would run down his chest inside his jacket and wouldn't show for some time on the ground because of the undershirt, shirt, and jacket material (wool soaks up a LOT of blood), unless it's an aortal wound and the heart is pumping him dry...   I'd make a darker area of the jacket color surrounding the wound though, (or maybe it's there, but I can't see it) and give that area a tiny bit of semi-gloss finish to make it look "wet"...  Overall, a 10 from me on believability, Manny...   

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Posted by namrednef on Friday, August 29, 2008 6:01 AM

 

The scenario is the immediate aftermath of a brief firefight with Americans kind of chasing the Germans, correct?

Bloody WELL DONE figure!!!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by acmodeler01 on Friday, August 29, 2008 6:41 AM
 namrednef wrote:

The scenario is the immediate aftermath of a brief firefight with Americans kind of chasing the Germans, correct?

Bloody WELL DONE figure!!!Thumbs Up [tup]

Ahh, and a well done bloody figure..*groan*

I would add some semi gloss, and as Hans wrote, a darkened area on the coat would be a good addition.

It's looking good, Manny. Have you started on any ground work yet?

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Friday, August 29, 2008 7:24 AM
The pose of the fallen soldier really is fantastic. It has so much drama, and really plays well with the tension of the advancing soldiers. Should look really great when all in place.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2008 9:23 AM

 Hans von Hammer wrote:
Speaking clinically: Overall, the blood is at what I'd call a realistic minimum... Dead guys don't bleed (much), so this guy went rather fast, but lasted long enough to realize what happened and made an attempt to staunch the flow... The red is about right for arterial blood as well, so it looks to me as if a heart wound is depicted... If not, it's still a serious enough wound to preclude him remaining concsious very long, and even if it isn't immediately fatal, most of the blood would run down his chest inside his jacket and wouldn't show for some time on the ground because of the undershirt, shirt, and jacket material (wool soaks up a LOT of blood), unless it's an aortal wound and the heart is pumping him dry...   I'd make a darker area of the jacket color surrounding the wound though, (or maybe it's there, but I can't see it) and give that area a tiny bit of semi-gloss finish to make it look "wet"...  Overall, a 10 from me on believability, Manny...   
Thanks, man...some very good (and correct) observations...most fatal bleeding occurs internally--non-fatal wounds actually tend to bleed more...here is the pic I used as a ref, not much blood to be seen:

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Posted by jthurston on Friday, August 29, 2008 12:55 PM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:

[...here is the pic I used as a ref, not much blood to be seen:

Looks like homeboy got shot right in the nose...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 29, 2008 6:15 PM
Heh, terminal post-nasal drip....

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Posted by namrednef on Friday, August 29, 2008 6:39 PM

 

Eerily similar to your fig MR. Brrrrrr!

This poor soul looks like he stepped on something bad.....trousers at the knees seem bloodstained.

Probably gunfire though....got raked pretty badly....probably pulmonary blood coming from the nose.......ah!Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

Nice fig MR!

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Posted by Mobious on Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM

 Hello MR,

 Very nice work. Not too excessive with the battle damage.Wink [;)] Will the figure be posed with similar equipment as the pic(spare MG barrel) or have you got something else in mind?

 Best Regards,

 

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:59 AM
 namrednef wrote:

 

The scenario is the immediate aftermath of a brief firefight with Americans kind of chasing the Germans, correct?

Bloody WELL DONE figure!!!Thumbs Up [tup]

You are close! Americans enter edge of town via a small farm courtyard...meet small arms fire...return fire...advance, sight German casualty...now we pick up the action in the dio scene...element leader is trying to determine new threats before rest of unit comes up...he holds em back while his two buddies watch the front...point guy is grabbing a fresh magazine for his carbine...
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:18 PM
The typical end of a green troop on an LP/OP who gave away his position by engaging, rather than reporting movement... An all too common end as the war progressed into '45 and troops were sent into infantry units from other specialties with a minimum of training...   

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:05 PM
 Mobious wrote:

 Hello MR,

 Very nice work. Not too excessive with the battle damage.Wink [;)] Will the figure be posed with similar equipment as the pic(spare MG barrel) or have you got something else in mind?

 Best Regards,

 

Thanks. Not sure if he will be outfitted as an MG Gunner as the real pic suggests. I wish the fig had been molded w/ the helmet in place as I am debating on wether or not I should get one over his head, which might require some surgery to the helmet and head...Other option is to have the helmet on the ground as shown...also am still deciding on his personal weapon...he is outfitted w/ rifle-clip pouches so that leans pretty heavy to a rifle (kar 98)...Note in the real pic the amount of personal items scattered on the ground, namely the deck of playing cards...it was a gruesome fact that enemy dead was rifled through pretty well in search of intel and souviners...nasty stuff, but war is a nasty business...
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Posted by SteveM on Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:05 AM

Great figure, Manny. What strikes me is how good his boots look. I dunno why, but that's where my end tends to land. Something very spooky about that photo. The kind of image you remember for a long time.

Steve

 

Steve M.

On the workbench: ginormous Kharkov dio

 

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Posted by bultenibo on Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:13 PM

MR:

I must tell you, the strangest thing just happened to me. A dead guy showed up in the armor forum and ordered me here to watch a diorama! That must be an innovation within marketing - "zombie advertising". Wink [;)]

Seriously, the dio looks GREAT! I'm really looking forward to the final result.

 I think it's a challenge to create a dio that is built around a hay cart and not an armored vehicle or two. Most modelers, including myself, seems to build dioramas around a tank by habit.

I especially like the interaction between the three GI:s. There is some serious tension among the gruop. The fact that the GI:s are bending down more, the closer they are to the enemy is very convincing. I surely would too. 

Are the GI:s from Tamiya, the Sherman kit?

 

/Tony aka bultenibo

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:17 PM

Thanks, Steve---I hesitated posting the pic but wanted everyone to see what inspired me to do the figure justice...do you mean the figgie's boots or the real boots in the pic? I know what you mean about giving you the chills---the pic is so clear that the detail is somewhat disturbing...

I hope the finished dio evokes that kind of emotion and reminds everyone that people die very horrible deaths...

The casualty is a Warrior resin fig; the three GI's are Tamiya 35th scale soldiers from their ancient US Assault Infantry set, dressed up with some DML equipment...

Thanks for looking guys---next post will probably be some pics of the now infamous bullet holes in the water barrel (clear sprue is gonna be my first try)...

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:41 PM

 

   Manny great looking fig. Since Hans already filled you in on the bleeding after the fact there's no need to go into that. I get the impression that this poor soul was the one setting the booby trap and was stopped before he could finish the job.

   And as far as the pic of the real german there is a quote that goes something like this;

        "Men have surly died in vain when the living refuse to look at them"  

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2008 10:26 AM
 panzerguy wrote:

 

   Manny great looking fig. Since Hans already filled you in on the bleeding after the fact there's no need to go into that. I get the impression that this poor soul was the one setting the booby trap and was stopped before he could finish the job.

   And as far as the pic of the real german there is a quote that goes something like this;

        "Men have surly died in vain when living refuse to look at them"  

Never have seen that quote, but it is a good one...thanks.
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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, September 1, 2008 11:34 AM

 

  Your welcome Manny.  Imo a hundred pics of wrecked vehicals and bombed out buildings cannot show the true horror of war more than one picture of dead soldier.

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by SteveM on Monday, September 1, 2008 12:10 PM
Yeah, I meant the boots on the figure you've painted. They look great.

Steve


Steve M.

On the workbench: ginormous Kharkov dio

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2008 7:14 PM
 SteveM wrote:
Yeah, I meant the boots on the figure you've painted. They look great.

Steve


Thanks, Steve---I thought they turned out well also...of course all good figures start with a good casting and the detail on the gaiters and boots is pretty good on that warrior figure...now that is see it enlarged I may go back and highlight the laces a little...
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  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted by T-rex on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 12:46 PM

Love the dead figure, and glad to see that you've added the blood in his mouth showing that its a serious wound.

I find it hard to make dead figure, on my latest dio Trying to make a soviet horseman dead is alittle hard, the  horse looks dead but the figure still has a "action" appearance.

Working on: Trumpeter SU-152 (1/35) Trumpeter E-10 (1/35) Heller Somua (1/35)

"The world is your enemy, prince of a thousand enemy. And when they'll find you, they will kill you... but they will have to catch you first ''

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 2:45 PM
 T-rex wrote:

Love the dead figure, and glad to see that you've added the blood in his mouth showing that its a serious wound.

I find it hard to make dead figure, on my latest dio Trying to make a soviet horseman dead is alittle hard, the  horse looks dead but the figure still has a "action" appearance.

Convincing figures of dead soldiers/animals are very difficult to find...the one I used is a Warrior's figure and maybe the best I have seen (other than the Yank's US casualty I posted awhile back)...Verlinden also makes some good dead horses in resin if you ever have the need...
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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 10:44 PM

Hey Manny!

I'm back after re-formatting my computer--ugh! Lots of work! 

Anyhoo...check out www.HeloMiniatures.com. Anders has sculpted some decent looking dead Germans.

You can also find some nice other figures there; check out the "Hetzer Crew" and click on the image--"model by Mr Karl Logan". That's the "silly putty tutorial" Hetzer that I built on commission for them.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2008 2:11 PM
 the doog wrote:

Hey Manny!

I'm back after re-formatting my computer--ugh! Lots of work! 

Anyhoo...check out www.HeloMiniatures.com. Anders has sculpted some decent looking dead Germans.

You can also find some nice other figures there; check out the "Hetzer Crew" and click on the image--"model by Mr Karl Logan". That's the "silly putty tutorial" Hetzer that I built on commission for them.

Hey, doog !!! Wondering where you were !!! I'll check that site out later and let you know what I think---thanks!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:39 PM
 the doog wrote:

Hey Manny!

I'm back after re-formatting my computer--ugh! Lots of work! 

Anyhoo...check out www.HeloMiniatures.com. Anders has sculpted some decent looking dead Germans.

You can also find some nice other figures there; check out the "Hetzer Crew" and click on the image--"model by Mr Karl Logan". That's the "silly putty tutorial" Hetzer that I built on commission for them.

WOW! I'm impressed---there are never too many good resin figgies! I especially like their Soviet Army Scouts set (gotta get these):

And:

 I must say that these are pretty convincing...and I did see your Hetzer on the box-art for the hetzer crew, AWESOME!

Looks like they are following Alpine by offering many of their figgies in sets of two or individually. Thanks for the link.

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Posted by Buddho on Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:45 PM
What an ultra realistic diorama, Eric....this is great stuff....

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:13 PM

Glad you dug the figures, Manny! The guy who does them is named Anders

Anders is a funny guy--he's a cowboy who sculpts figures, and completely waaaaaay to the opposite side of me, politically. We've had some uh,..interesting conversations! LOL! Good fellow though! And I agree; he does some great figs huh?

He's sent me a few to "pay" for the Hetzer, but not the dead guys--he was working on them a after I sent him the Hetz.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:48 PM

Most of the work that I have done with this dio over the past week or so has been painting up the three GI's:

They are almost done and I think they are turning out very nicely...I have also been experimenting with the bullet-riddled water barrel...stretched some clear sprue, drilled a couple of holes in the barrel and came up with this rough result:

I figure that the lower down the hole is on the barrel, the higher the water pressure will be and the further the stream will shoot out...plan on making some small splashes on the ground and a little puddling once the groundwork is down...feedback appreciated...

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Posted by zokissima on Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:51 PM

I love your attention to the little details. This one is looking to be a winner, and not to mention an inspiration in composition.

See if you can use heat to warp the stream of water a bit, especially near the end, where it would hit the ground.

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