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"A Cold Day In Hell" *Complete*pg6

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:18 PM

 Stern0 wrote:
I actually took a break this weekend and wrote a article for the mag about the The Bridge

Shock [:O] Very cool- that's one great dio Thumbs Up [tup]-looking forward to the article! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Huxy on Monday, May 11, 2009 12:09 AM

Oh sweet! I liked The Bridge!

Wait... what bridge...?

 

Hah, really..   I did really enjoy The Bridge!

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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:37 AM

Here is a little more work on the base and I have started my frozen Germans....lots more to do on the figs..had to do a few modifications...enjoy

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:33 AM
That's looking very cool! I didn't realize that the Germans were going to be facing the GIs, don't know why... but I like that a lot, definitely adds even more to the dio. The only thing I'd say as far as the groundwork goes, would be make sure you add some kind of snow product or color variation just to give what looks light straight white plaster some texture and color so there's no confusing it with snow. That being said everything else looks awesome- I love the twigs and the log looks great in scale.

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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:24 PM
Chris..Thanks for the positive feedback....had to put a base of snow down for depth, but all this is before the final snowfall...alll the ground work will be sticking out of the snow...Thanks for checking it out Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:44 PM
Very cool, just making sure. Figured you had it all planned out. It'll be interesting to see how that works, kind of like the whole "resin before or after the reeds?" on The Bridge dio. It worked for you there, I'm sure the concept will hold and work for you with the snow here Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:52 PM
Chris, the more I think about it the more I realize that my methods are just straight up bass akward sometimes and may be very confusing to someone who is just looking at a picture...I probably go the long way around somethings, but as they say "the easy way is always mined". We have yet to see if it pans out...I also have to jump the gun by putting in a item or two (a bush or log), just to make it look like I'm making progress to help my inspiration...if you know what I mean. Bla bla bla...I will say there is a method to my madness, most of the time, and sometimes it pays offLaugh [(-D]...that is why I value your opinion so much...helps me look at things in a different perspective...that always helps! many thanks!
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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:42 PM
No- it actually makes sense. Snow falls on the ground on and around the growth just like water flows over the grounds, around and through reeds. You’re doing it the same way the 1:1 weather happens.

But of course, I understand needing to mix things up to keep the motivation going. I can never do a build following instructions from 1 through whatever- especially tanks with a on of road wheels. Or indy tracks... ugh lol

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Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:41 AM

Chris, had to laugh about the tracks comment....I have always liked the dragon models and built a sd.kfz..the tracks were awsome, just took a while...but the Sherman I built that came with the GI figs I'm using in this build, was a B**ch! I ended up buying some others and they sucked too...so it sets with one set on and the other set forgotten...I enjoy Armor but don't build because of the tracks...a sorry excuse I must say. BTW what do you think of the dead germans? they will get more done to them, I feel they are a little hokie in the pics, I hope the will look better when done...

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:40 AM
lol yeah, it's understandable- I mean I don't build many autos or aircraft mainly because of the clear parts. They never turn out... I always get glue or paint if not both smeared across them.

The Germans look “in progress” you know? Not bad, but I know they’ve still got work left on them. I think the skin tone’s getting there; maybe add some flesh and blue mix for the highlights? I know that  areas around the lips will turn blue quick, even before death, so I’d say it’d be a safe bet to color the rest of the flesh with blues, things like the hands (especially with no gloves) will freeze faster than the face, but the cheeks might also be red and burned from wind. I think you have some options, just not sure which way you’d want to take it as of now. Any chance you could PM me your reference pictures? I’m sure some are a little too graphic to post.

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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:53 AM
Hey Chris, I didnt have any ref pictures until Panzerguy sent me one..he sent it PM...i'll send it your way if I can figure how LOL...Thanks for the recomendations on the germans...thats exactly the way I'm headed...I have added head cover and one has rags around his hands...I'll post pics soon..Thanks!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:30 AM
Starting to take shape---looking good---it is never easy to realistically model corpses...
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Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:49 AM
Thanks MR! Thats good to know about the corpses...I'm never too happy about my figs anyway, and have never done a dead one, but now I will relax a little on the germans. Yours are always very realistic..hope I can get halfway there!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:18 PM

Here is a little more progress on the Germans and the root ball...all coments welcome.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:58 PM
Looking real nice!! I love the rootball- and the Germans are looking good too- what'd you use for the towel-like head wraps and the (I think they are?) shirt cuffs?

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:19 PM

Thanks for the comments Chris! The head wraps are just painted masking tape and the "cuffs" are the same but I was going for more of a hands wraped in rags....Sigh [sigh] lol..figure these two were doing anything to stay warm...thanks again!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:33 PM
Makes sense, I just couldn't make them out, I'm sure you'll pull it together- the head wraps look real cool, and I like the positions they froze in. Looks like the first one to go was the loader, gunner didn’t notice and he just stayed as him MG until he couldn’t last any longer, just got way too cold. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:22 PM
no fault of yours Chris..they are not very convincing...Ill work on it. Thanks for the props on the positions...I was afraid of the flash freeze effect that would not be so realistic...the upright one will be kinda leaning back against a small tree...i think that will help..can always count on you for great feedback! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:12 PM
Glad you enjoy my comments- but hey I’m all talk most of the time, you’re the one putting this together- and I definitely enjoy watching your WIPs, this is going to look real nice when you’re finished, I’m sure you’ll get those rag wrapped hands looking right. I think it’ll look even better with the upright gunner leaning on a support tree, but I do like how they’re presented because at a distance I can really picture the GIs thinking they were still alive.

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:11 AM
The talk is very important to me as far as acuracy and detail goes, so talk away my friend...I wish I could be a little more constructive in my feedback to others...i tend to either only comment on the good things or play the bad down. (not that I see much bad) The only one I'll bash are my own!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] It's kinda like music...i respect the effort in it all, but don't listen to all of it...keep it comming and don't hold back!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by oldhooker on Friday, May 22, 2009 10:42 PM

Hi Steve,

    You've certainly captured the air of misery in the scene, both in the hopelessness on the German's faces and the bitterness of the weather.       The object is realism, and you're nailing it; great work! Thumbs Up [tup]

Take care,

Frank

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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:36 AM

Frank,

Thanks for the posiitve feedback...I try to get as realistic as possible...lots of work to do on figs and the base...more to come.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Jim Barton on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:21 PM
 Stern0 wrote:

Thanks for the comments Chris! The head wraps are just painted masking tape and the "cuffs" are the same but I was going for more of a hands wraped in rags....Sigh [sigh] lol..figure these two were doing anything to stay warm...thanks again!Big Smile [:D]

 

I thought that's what those were on their hands--some sort of rags to try to keep warm and it was all they could find. To no avail, too. Definitely catching the mood of the diorama very well.

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:43 PM
Thanks Jim! Reworking those rags a bit...I was not very happy with them..very pleased that there is a mood..I would hate to just stick a few figs on a base and call it a diorama ...Does my heart good for someone to get the feeling..Thanks agian!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:33 PM
hey s.o. this is looking good. im so wrapped up in mine i guess i've failed to pay closer attention to this one. i remember the us soldiers. still getting that really cold it "sux" feeling when i look at this. coming along nice. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:36 PM
Tom, thanks for checking it out...its comming along, having trouble with the snow..Glad it gets the cold feeling across...Definatly wouldn't want to be in there shoes!Dead [xx(] I'm sure Mahyem is keeping you busy, keep on pulling it's a Great looking build! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:01 PM
what part of the snow is giving you trouble?? (note: i didnt read but a few of the earlier posts...lol). mayhem isnt keeping me nearly as busy as it should....lol. im waiting on some figs which may take sime time to get via the mail, etc. so things are slowly moving...anyway, this is looking good and feeling like im repeating myself is ok i guess!! Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:08 PM

   SternO this is starting to come together. The fallen tree is well done.

  The figs look really good that's a nice touch with the cloth draped over their heads. My only suggestion would be about their face's I think there to white. You may want to consider painting the faces in flesh tones and then dry brushing some white over that leaving some of the flesh exposed.     

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:05 AM

Tom, I'm trying to use stuff around the house for snow as opposed to buying It....Against all I have seen on the subject, i used Baking powder...Unfortunatly my work space has been relegated to my basement which is very dank! I layed down a thin coat of white glue and sifted the powder on it..It looked good...went to check on it the next day and it had swelled up to about three sizes larger...A major BLIZZARDLaugh [(-D] the messed up part was it looked real as hell...just a whole lot more depth and it didn't stick...just fell off when inverted....I do have other methods in mind thoughSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Panzerguy...Thanks for the feedback..I'm a little torn on the color of the faces...from personal experience I know it dos'nt take long for the skin to turn colors on the living..My philosophy is; If it is this cold, their skin, (most of all the tip of nose), would be black before death...then after being dead and frozen for any period of time there wouldnt be much color left...I may be way off on this..but I will be looking into it...Thanks again!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:31 AM

not to laugh at your pain but...Laugh [(-D]. i understand how that is. i wish i had an alternative 4 u! only did one snow scene b4 and that was using that fake snow for model railroads! that was a looooong time ago. i know u want to use home stuff (i get that) but below is what it looked like in case u wondered. Laugh [(-D]

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