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Rudolf's Roadside Rant ~~(FINISHED)~~
Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:25 PM

 

 27/08/2009 03:15:07



Hello Gentlemen, Back again with another tiny vignette build, before I go onto a much larger, longer Dio thats been in the works. This one should all be happening pretty rapidly. ~~~~1st thing, I had built and painted this 3 man set from Masterbox nearly 2 years ago with no clear idea where they''d end up. I did want to at least once build OOTB, and the only thing I added was the rifle slings(from some winebottle foil), which was a must.  By now I have a nice collection of replacement heads and even some much better German Command figures, so lets see if I can stick to the plan.(not sure myself !) avatar  250 photos
To start, I made this small coblestone casting quick & easy from 2 slabs of Milliput. ~ (you can find a brief SBS on this, along with a much longer/better/wonderfully written SBS from Mitchel on plaster casting using a Lego brick form and  a silly putty mould--over in the fantastic but often-overlooked Tools & Techniques Forum At MM   http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=31071

  
Of course this is another of the 3" X 3" acrylic display cubes like I used in the Russian Machine Gunner in the Trench'' vignette, and in a similar way, I built up and defined the space using some .030 styrene sheet from Evergreen. Just wanting a simple roadside somewhere along the way to the attempt to crush Russia, I just needed a backdrop of some old wooden structure,and the dirt between it & the road.  
I threw in an old T-34 roadwheel from the spares, and some small stones & ballast. The dirt & cement for foundation is my usual choice of Elmer''s Wood Filler.  The inside of the backbox needed black primer before attaching my woodpanel, as I planned to have some spaces between some of the ''boards''.   The center panel has bladework,and 40gritpaper scraped and swirled some, the one on the right, without swirling, and on left 150 grit only.
   In prep. of making the woodpanel, I tried some test pieces(I had these because it took a few tries to get that triangle piece on top just right !)This was both a test of varried styrene wood-grain making as it was a test for using Vallejo Model Color''s translucent quality when thinned, which I am liking (new to these paints- I''ve had to add a 4th model-color range to my bench   -besides all the artist-color sets I have ! Because these are trully amazing paints!  (thanks Craig & Allen & others that have convinced me I must try them)   I ended-up using my prefered method of just carving the woodgrain in with my knife  
And am really happy with what I got: The key is using the blade perpindicular to the work at about a 45degre angle like so:  
Try to draw the lines lightly and evenly down the entire length, letting them freely get wavey but never choppy. The board edges are made with a ''V'' shaped cut and the edges are distressed and in some cases dug-out   I wanted everything primed in black, except the wood(so I''d have the light under the thin wood colors), so I used Tamiya White primer 1st, to check my build, and prime the panel. The next day I masked it with Tamiya tape, and shot everything with a powdery flat black spray 2X(it''s Rustoleum ''ChalkBoard'' finish, left over from my Tiki days)    
  

 
 
 Here it is ready to paint:
 &~ still I thought you might want to see the box art for the set in question ~ Ain't it great?     It's called German Military Men (I know....how  generic)   I have alot of re-touching to do on these figures  
 and the Vallejo is already  a big help, but more on that later too......  

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:44 AM
fantastic indy. really love the wood grain. and as someone who is doing his own vignette, arent they simple and fun. as well as easy to put alot of detail into them without doing any "real" work!! you've inspired me to build my own base from styrene. thanks again for the how to on the wood grain, i've tried it on styrene and got "so-so" results...but love yours. again, great job Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:32 PM

I dig it.  For some reason the pose on the guy to the right, with his palm turned up as if to shrug and say, 'What the F, Herr Ober-paininmybutt' jumps out at me.  For me, that little posture makes the whole thing! 

Awesome painting and nice WIP on how you did the base - thanks!

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Posted by Model Maniac on Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:23 PM
Nice work overall. Though I think the outer perimeter (or the lower base) is not needed, it just takes up space.

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:32 PM
i like it!
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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:32 PM

Right on C.J. ~  Thanks Man. glad you like it and find it inspiring (I in turn took inspiration from the small brick wall piece you scratched) --Not "real" work? LOL. You mean like Helo-logging? Or Crime-scene-clean-up? Nope, not that hard !!! Wink [;)]   Gives me a chance to get something done before I embark on another long build(you know)

Boyd ~ funny man ! You completely get this. I am improving 'Rudy' but I'm getting a little tired of his additude :

I went with the grey of an artillery officer instead of the black uniform of the SS as on the box art. I probably didn't get the grey quite right(though it matches B&W reference photos I have perfect Cool [8D] )It was an accomplishment at that point in my figure painting so I probably won't change it.

Mostly this view will be seen:

 Oh and Maniac ~ NO. Not. See, it's an acrylic display cube. Cover fits in that groove :

More updates on painting coming before completion............see ya soon........

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 28, 2009 3:25 AM
 bbrowniii wrote:

For some reason the pose on the guy to the right, with his palm turned up as if to shrug and say, 'What the F, Herr Ober-paininmybutt' jumps out at me.  For me, that little posture makes the whole thing! 

Awesome painting and nice WIP on how you did the base - thanks!

Ditto... It's agreat "WTF do ya want US to do about it?" pose...

I went with the grey of an artillery officer instead of the black uniform of the SS as on the box art.

Actually, tank crews wore the black uniforms, and assault gun/SP artillery crews grey ones whether Waffen-SS or Heer until about mid '41 when the black was replaced by feldgrau (Heer) and Waffen-SS got Mausgrau (Mouse grey) uniforms.  The cut of the SS uniform tunic was different from the Heer tunic, so they really can't be interchanged by simply changing the color.  Your guy is wearing the Waffen-SS uniform...

 

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, August 28, 2009 9:27 PM

You are of course, quite correct Hans. The main difference of 'cut' being that where the jacket of the SS fell near straight down from the button at the 'buttoned-over' postion, the SP Attillery grey jacket had more of a 'V' shape, falling away from that button. This small difference is something I'm aware of now(though 2 years ago when I painted Rudolf I was not) Where I really made a mistake though, was in deviating from the kits intended colors, as an out-of-the-box build, I have no place converting the uniform.    But I painted it grey.       So now, knowing already that (this)Rudy was a weakpoint, do I replace him? Convert him ?Paint him as SS? Or live withthe shortcomings of a model made yesteryear...?Open to suggestion here guys ~ I do have his replacement right here on the bench ~ I just have 'some' value in the old model still.

 As for the other figures, small improvements are ongoing :

Smoothing out some features of my painting without really 'changing' anything too much

Some of the detail on these MB figures is too good to be styrene :

Others is not. On Vehicle Equipment is kinda sad, Especially tried to hide the breadbags :

Building OOTB is turning out to be harder ! I'd really like to reach for some of those way-better looking X-tra personal items from DML kits I have in the spares box!!!

 Still, small improvements are being made without totally changing my original work. What to do about Rudy however?  He always has been a problem-child.

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:12 PM

So now, knowing already that (this)Rudy was a weakpoint, do I replace him? Convert him ?Paint him as SS? Or live withthe shortcomings of a model made yesteryear...?

Nah, I'd leave it as is, man...  If you replace "Rudy", I think you'd lose the "spirit" of the vignette...  Although... If you were to paint him as SS, it might be even funnier, since the SS guys were pretty arrogant and had a tendency to look down their noses at Heer troops.. Those Heer Panzergrendiers don't seem to care about Rudy's ranting and that's a good thing...

I still like it as is though...

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:19 AM

Minor update ~ Base coats on everything :

Everything base-coated in acrylics(Tamiya & Vallejo)

Next  ,the more interesting layers and ....placement.....please stay tuned......

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:45 AM
will stay tuned. still looks good so far! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:42 PM

 camo junkie wrote:
will stay tuned. still looks good so far! Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks Buddy, please do. I've got the base just about finished :

The stage is set. there where a few more steps to get there :

A few heavy, dark grey washes on the cobbles, a chocolate brown 1 on the earth, lighter grey on cement.

A thick wash of Grungy Grey Doc O'brians pigment powder & alcohol is layed in wet, so it flows into cracks & lowspots

When it dries it lightens alot, I like the effect

A few more detail items to place, and as soon as I'm satisfied with the figures, it will be complete......

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:53 PM
This is great! I love the figures, nice work Indy

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:39 PM

 psstoff995 wrote:
This is great! I love the figures, nice work Indy

Thanks alot  ~Chris ~ , hope you like this......

 ~ Hans  ~ thank you, you helped light a fire under my butt to improve this build greatly, by replacing the actor who will be playing the role of Rudy, as he was a weak figure in many regards, though his pose & expression we're importaint to the vignettes' story, a conversion has taken place . Rudy will now be tall & slender, with nicely defined clothing, a well formed hand pointing, a scowling,speaking while growling expression, and the proper black Waffen SS Panzer Commander uniform.

  Platoon PT-013 German tank Commander, Warriors replacement head,modified arm,and hand from another Warriors figure,(still adding same thin putty layers to his new arm here, to adjust for the new position with some spot thickening. 

Then a primer/basecoat was added using Tamiya TS-4 German Grey for a dark-mid-tone

 

Don't worry, that's not filled detail on the face, it's covered with masking fluid(the hand  has tape) to save the dark yellow of the resin surface to base the fleshtones on.

A dark blue-grey Vallejo mix is 'washed' into reccesses. Later, small amounts of Tamiya XF-15 Flat Flesh is mixed progressively into that color(with a tad of retarder) and VERY lightly drybrushed on, in lighter and lighter tones, focusing on the tops of folds as I near a light-fleshy-grey to the top

This will be my 1st all-black uniform though I intend to have this figure complete fairly quickly.

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Still, no actual  'black' has been used yet. This will come in the next steps. Thanks for tuning in.......................... Indy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:58 PM

That's an outstanding figure, Indy... That guy's no rookie though.. With his two Iron Crosses (1st & 2nd Class), Armored Assault Badge and Wound Badge (German equivilant of US Purple Heart Medal), he's been in he sh*t for a spell... Of course, the Heer Grenadiers could be just seasoned... The Army didn't didn't give its medals out as readily as the Waffen-SS did.. They were usually awarded to Army troops en mass when a unit was taken out of the line for rest & refitting.

Also, and this is just a little thing, you may want to re-do the haircuts on the Grenadiers... Here's a reference site for managing Otto's wavy locks in the service of Der Vatterland..

http://www.dererstezug.com/GermanHaircut.htm

 

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Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, September 3, 2009 10:37 AM

Indy nice little vignette. Next time, try using real wood and dark grey/black washes to simulate wood. I like the cobblestones a lot. Keep building.

 

PS I don't know anything about soldiers and military stuff, so I don't comment on it, and leave that to the poeple who do know.

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:42 PM
 vespa boy wrote:

Indy nice little vignette. Next time, try using real wood and dark grey/black washes to simulate wood. I like the cobblestones a lot. Keep building.

 

PS I don't know anything about soldiers and military stuff, so I don't comment on it, and leave that to the poeple who do know.

   Thank you so much Narayan.  Wood? to make wood?  hhhhhhhmmmm. Where's the challenge in that? LOL . I appreciate your input greatly. I had a peek at your work at your site. Fantastic likeness to reality--each one. Only thing- They are crying out (at least to me) to have some sort of vehicle or people on them. What you call a diorama I simply call a 'base', but then, yours are so good I supose they must be considered the subject.(?)

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, September 4, 2009 1:08 AM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

That's an outstanding figure, Indy... That guy's no rookie though.. With his two Iron Crosses (1st & 2nd Class), Armored Assault Badge and Wound Badge (German equivilant of US Purple Heart Medal), he's been in he sh*t for a spell... Of course, the Heer Grenadiers could be just seasoned... The Army didn't didn't give its medals out as readily as the Waffen-SS did.. They were usually awarded to Army troops en mass when a unit was taken out of the line for rest & refitting.

Also, and this is just a little thing, you may want to re-do the haircuts on the Grenadiers... Here's a reference site for managing Otto's wavy locks in the service of Der Vatterland..

http://www.dererstezug.com/GermanHaircut.htm

 

Thank you Hans, yes,  I think so. Even more to the 'spirit of the vignette' in the end I hope. He is well decorated as to make a more interesting model I guess(Then I suppose us modelers could always scrape off an award or two !)Not hard to find reference for Axis medals, but that site you list is fabulous for anyone needing details on German troops! Thanks for the tip, as for the haircuts, I feel well-advised. I could trim a bit , but, I really think that a few months into the campaign bushy heads of hair would become common, and the MB figures show this well. True most photos of Heer in good marching order appear well-kept, most of them are looking quite shaggy by time they lay dead on the Russian plain.   Dead [xx(]

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:01 AM
Masking removed reveals 2 colors of resin   These are 'base'coated with TamiyaXF-6o Dark Yellow   And when cured, wash with a very direct ideal wash of Vallejo #150 German Camo BlackBrown with just a tad of #033 Red     Just about looks there as is, but needs all the subtle skin tone layers, added next,  that is if  this mean bastard will let me finish him!

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:35 AM

Excelent work as always indy!

Great looking base work!

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Posted by falschimjager on Saturday, September 5, 2009 2:08 AM
better yet have both of them ranting at the grenadiers.
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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:00 PM

 falschimjager wrote:
better yet have both of them ranting at the grenadiers.

Probably not. A.  The Vignette was designed for (3)  B.The two Officer figures aren't all that compatible. & C. I think if they we're in that much trouble they'd likely just be shot   Dead [xx(]Evil [}:)]Black Eye [B)]

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, September 6, 2009 3:47 PM
YEAH ~ those Black Uniforms have a reputation don't they? Well I got a lot of help from this How to paint black & white uniforms chapter on Googlebooks at this LINK , and I think Rudy's turned out pretty well.  
 
     
Still,I'd like to perfect him more, but I've got to get this angry little man out of my face.   A small final addition to my base.         And............that's it. I'm ready for final assembly of the Vignette.( I had to actually research Russian Ivy for this(little PE plant trial) O man !) Russian Ivy tends to be a bit smaller leaved,and more brightly dabbed with green, but.....I will sleep fine as is. NEXT UPDATE    ~   Completion !     please tune in then,   cheers  Mates,    Indy ~!!!

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:48 AM
Well.............here it is :              "Rudolf's Roadside Rant"                  Dio# 6     Still have yet to shoot a nice set of 'finished' shots - have those up shortly- thanks for hangin in with me...............................Indy

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 9:17 AM
Looks great overall... One issue though, and it's minor, the overall color of the shoulder marks on the Panzergrenadiers' tunics should be Feldgrau, same as the tunic... Black shoulder marks would be for Waffen-SS...

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 12:50 AM
    Rudolf's Roadside Rant Difficult to include every detail of the German uniform code Still, I was well advised,  and I think made a good effort   For the free time I found over only 12 days.....   I can begin to build a collection of these small vignette cubes.   And even have fun with thier placement.      Next project is going to be a long job,please           tune in next time for                 "!Clash in Tunisia!"

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:34 AM

Hello INDY,

Very nice work. Different subjects on matching bases - I followed that idea once, too. Keep up the good work and have a nice day!

Pawel

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:25 PM
[quote user="psstoff995's lbro"]

Excelent work as always indy!

Great looking base work!

I missed one!!  Sorry about that Will !!   Yes, Thank you 2X very much, Sir.

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:30 PM

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Thanks Pawel 'ole Buddy !  Yeah-fun to do a few short-term projects inbetween the 3-4 month kind. I might try it again sometime, plus, hey, they're decorater friendly!

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:41 PM
Haha. Quite alright, finnished product looks good. It looks like that Russian MGer is going to take out all 3 of them! Big Smile [:D]
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