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France 1940 diorama update (New photos added)

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Posted by Bodge on Friday, June 18, 2010 4:28 PM

Love it Yes

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:40 PM

101stAirborne

the finished dio looks great, and I do believe that Verlinden has German soldiers taking a "leek" as well as the American soldiers.

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Thanks! Glad you're liking the dio so far. I still have a ways to go before it's finished though... seven more figures, some tools and finally dustings and general detail work  to bring it all together.

I'd never seen the German soldiers "bathroom" figures but I'll look for them next time I place an order to the USA. 

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Posted by 101stAirborne on Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:28 PM

the finished dio looks great, and I do believe that Verlinden has German soldiers taking a "leek" as well as the American soldiers.

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Models on the bench:

Too many to count!

  

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Posted by Electric Blues on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:58 PM

101stAirborne

the German soldier that is taking a leek, why does he have a U.S. M1 Garand belt on?

Good eye Airborne!

I couldn't sand it off! It is of course an American soldier figure painted in German Grey. Due to the date being represents in the dio, I can't even say he captured it.

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Posted by Bocks Suv on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:00 PM

I believe he is grabbing a Vienna Sausage, not an onion (leek).

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Posted by 101stAirborne on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:51 PM

the German soldier that is taking a leek, why does he have a U.S. M1 Garand belt on?

Models on the bench:

Too many to count!

  

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Posted by Electric Blues on Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:31 PM

Thank you gentlemen!

There are still seven figures to go and a bunch of tools as well. After all that, I'll still need to to apply dusts and shades to pull the whole thing together.

Another three or four weeks and I should be calling this one finished... I hope!

 

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, May 23, 2010 4:01 PM

E.B.

Congradulations on a job well done!

 

I really like what I see, and think you did an amazing job on your 1st Dio

  

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All the tools, and detail item unde/ near the shed really make the scene--it's hard to get that kind of miscellania to look convincing and you have. It's really neat seeing the paint going on--you get an idea of the Bis in two different color schemes, which is very rare. The crewman up top does look a bit like he's on the phoneWinkto our modern-day eye, but we know better. A fun project--please consider it a success!

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:13 PM

Wow. Cool work. I love the Char B. Groundwork is very realistic too.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:52 PM

More advances. See what you think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:24 PM

Here are a few more updates.

I added a rain barrel, the confused mechanic on the Char (That's a wrench in his btw, not a cel phone), the Kublewagen driver got a new head as well as a rifle by his side. The peeing soldier has a rifle now too and the winch structure has been painted although it's still not secured to the base.

To call it finished, there are still four card playing soldiers to be added, the soldier that will be painting the tank and a couple more bringing him tools, supplies and helping. Seven more figures! Also yet to be added are the air compressor, paint mops, small barrel of paint and a bunch of other tools and extras.

Am I ever going to finish this thing? 

 

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:30 PM

Imagine how I felt when I was painting him!

Crying

 

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Posted by Robh22 on Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:57 PM

Bocks Suv

Le farmer looks how I feel.

 

lol omg, I was thinking the exact same thing, he looks like how I feel.

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:18 PM

Agreed. The way figures and vehicles sit on the ground makes a huge difference! Thanks!

It should look better once I finish it and attach it to the base. I think it's important to the diorama since it will be indicative of work being done on the tank. Still, I'll have to see it finished before I'll know if it's too much.

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Posted by Bocks Suv on Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:14 PM

Le farmer looks how I feel.  Love the table of tools. That metal brace swing-set thing still isnt doing it for me.  Less is more when it comes to augmenting the tank... IMHO. If you do keep it, I would rec sinking it into the mud a bit. Often dios have vehicles almost levitating on snow and mud. Pushing some mud or snow around in is easy... compared to trying to bulge plastic tires on a 1/32 fighter plane sitting on tarmac.    

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, May 13, 2010 3:56 PM

Hans von Hammer

This piece just keeps getting better... Your civilians are a nice touch... Folks trying to return to some level of normalcy after their homeland being occupied always makes for interesting scenes...  Where did you get 'em?

Thank you Hammer for taking the time to give me feed back! The farmer and his wife are resin figures... don't know what brand. They are walking away after leaving the soldiers baskets of fresh vegtables and fruit. There's is still a loaf of bread in the woman's basket. I was thinking of substituting it with a German hand grenade she could have stolen while leaving the soldier's food. I'm still thinking about that one. It would be really hard to spot but I'm sure whoever does see will get a laugh,

There are a couple things that I'm curious about/noticed though, and they're really not all that big a deal, just a typical "Hammer-nit" that folks have come to know and hate...

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Number 1 & 1A: Are those scratch-built or from a kit? The "wood" paint is exceptional and I'd like to add your technique to my stable of "How-tos" if they're scratched, provided you don't mind me giving it a whirl... Wood-painting has always just eluded me if it isn't really wood, and I'd prefer to use styrene if I can get away with it.

Both the ladder and work table are from a kit and are styrene. I began by painting them flat tan (Tamiya). Once that was dry, I used a heavy red brown wash made with artist oil paints in a small glass jar.

The paint only suspends in its solvent temporarily and will settle to the bottom of the jar after a while. If I want a light wash... I won't shake the bottle and just use it off the top. If I want a heavier mix... as in this case, I mix it well! I dab it on and let it dry for a while.

Once it starts to dry, I go over it with a clean stiff bristle brush, adding "curves" where they seem to go. I'll let it dry a bit more and go over it with the stiff bristles again until it looks "right" to me. Once it's where I want it, I'll seal it with flat dry lacquer. After the lacquer dries, I make knots and slightly discolored areas with a bit of light black wash that I made just like the red brown I mentioned before. I have that type of wash in blue and green as well. 

Number 2: Kind of the same thing as the tank tracks... Adding some of the nearby ground color up onto the tires & wheels would help the vehicle "tie-in" to the groundwork ( I do the same thing to the lower parts of boots & shoes as well).  No need to paint though...  I'd just mix up some pastels of the "local dirt-color" and brush it on 'em... Just enough to, like I said, tie it to the groundwork...

Thanks for this great tip! I'll add it this weekend and you should see it in my next update photos. Thanks!!!

Three (not pictured): Just a little technical detail about the Kubelwagen and you can take it or leave it... The license plate is Luftwaffe (WL XXXXX)  and the driver appears to be Heer... If it's an Army (Heer) Kubelwagen, the license would have the "WH" designator (WH xxxxx= Wehrmacht-Heer & WL xxxxx= Wehrmacht Luftwaffe. SS xxxxx is self-explainatory)...  That's not to say that, since it is a field paint-shop, the driver might be doing a "Radar O'Reilly" and about to have the vehicle "reassigned", lol... 

Good catch! I think I just used the wrong decal! Let me check the decal sheet and if the other decal is available, I'll change it. If not... I'm just going to muddy the current one a bit more! =)

Gonna echo Indy and say that the grass-work is just flat some of the finest I've ever seen, and also say the tree is outstanding.... Is that a scratch-built one? If so, I'd love to read a tute on your tree-making, provided you ever feel like it...

That tree began as a resin trunk, that I wrapped with strands of electrical wire (peeled extension chord) that I later wrapped in toilet paper and white glue. I spread the limb wires until I reached the height I wanted and until I thought it looked like a tree.

The foliage is the foam rubber type sold by one of the major manufactures (sorry... don't remember which one). I glued it into the tree in different size patches and using different tones. I used my airbrush to darken some of the ones closest to the branches. There were still electrical wires to be seen so I sprayed them with aerosol glue and sprinkled a fine herbs mix available in any supermarket for about a buck.

I kept stepping back and looking at the tree, squinting my eyes and adding and subtracting until I thought it looked right.  "Only God can make a tree"... absolutely right! I've had to fuss with this one during the entire construction of dio. It falls apart, sags, tilts and does pretty much anything it pleases. I just go through the whole process again! =(  Now, it's pretty stable so I guess it's ok.

I added a few tree trunks by the camp fire to make the tree more credible and also added a few 1/35 leaves on the tile roof of the shack, mixed in with a little more of the fine herbs mixture I bought at the supermarket.

The grass is again from a major supplier. However, it looked completely flat when I first installed it. I got it to look more natural by cutting it to different heights with small scissors. In some parts I got rid of most it., so it could fade away into the dirt. Some for or five different colors were air brushed on; darker on the bottom, lighter on the top.

The dirt has been extremely difficult. That calls for many colors and textures. I also used an airbrush to get the colors to blend in. I took a few artistic liberties too. If you look carefully, the tank thread marks  on the ground aren't sunken... they are elevated over the ground. Why? Because it think it shows up the effect better and if you check, not one person has commented about it, either here or the guys that have seen it live. =) It's sort of like an old dirt road that has sunken in the middle and it looks like the wheel paths are raised.

I'm awfully sorry I can't be of more help. I started on military subjects about 8 months back and while I make an effort to use the techniques I read about on magazines and have seen on the Web, I usually end up just working on things until they feel "right".

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM

This piece just keeps getting better... Your civilians are a nice touch... Folks trying to return to some level of normalcy after their homeland being occupied always makes for interesting scenes...  Where did you get 'em?

There are a couple things that I'm curious about/noticed though, and they're really not all that big a deal, just a typical "Hammer-nit" that folks have come to know and hate...

Number 1 & 1A: Are those scratch-built or from a kit? The "wood" paint is exceptional and I'd like to add your technique to my stable of "How-tos" if they're scratched, provided you don't mind me giving it a whirl... Wood-painting has always just eluded me if it isn't really wood, and I'd prefer to use styrene if I can get away with it.

Number 2: Kind of the same thing as the tank tracks... Adding some of the nearby ground color up onto the tires & wheels would help the vehicle "tie-in" to the groundwork ( I do the same thing to the lower parts of boots & shoes as well).  No need to paint though...  I'd just mix up some pastels of the "local dirt-color" and brush it on 'em... Just enough to, like I said, tie it to the groundwork...

Three (not pictured): Just a little technical detail about the Kubelwagen and you can take it or leave it... The license plate is Luftwaffe (WL XXXXX)  and the driver appears to be Heer... If it's an Army (Heer) Kubelwagen, the license would have the "WH" designator (WH xxxxx= Wehrmacht-Heer & WL xxxxx= Wehrmacht Luftwaffe. SS xxxxx is self-explainatory)...  That's not to say that, since it is a field paint-shop, the driver might be doing a "Radar O'Reilly" and about to have the vehicle "reassigned", lol... 

Gonna echo Indy and say that the grass-work is just flat some of the finest I've ever seen, and also say the tree is outstanding.... Is that a scratch-built one? If so, I'd love to read a tute on your tree-making, provided you ever feel like it...

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Posted by Robh22 on Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:01 AM

Thank you! Big Smile

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Posted by Electric Blues on Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:39 AM

On the windshield, I taped masked the wipers normal cleaning path and lightly sprayed the windshield with matt clear. Once it dried, I removed the mask and sprayed matt clear lightly again.

If you only spray once,  the wiper path is very defined and crystal clear. I didn't want that effect. I wanted it to look as if the windshield wipers had been used at some time in the past but that the windshield had accumulated dust since then. I figured the amount of dust would be less on the wipers path but that there would be dust there anyway.. hope that makes sense. Embarrassed

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Posted by Robh22 on Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:39 AM

That is really a great scene. Very well done. Can't wait to see the finished project. What do you folks do with your dio's once your done with them? I have to find a place to put mine, where my cats won't replay a scene from Godzilla attacking Tokyo.... Huh?

 

In your 2nd picture down, I noticed the windshield on the car..how did you do that effect? It's fantastic.

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Posted by Electric Blues on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:53 PM

Here are some updates. All the new pieces aren't finished yet and haven't been secured to the base yet.

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Posted by Electric Blues on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:52 PM

Thank you very much Indy! You're right, I should have added this to my old thread. I'll make sure yo keep all updates on this thread from now on.

I really like the figures you've posted but never imagined they took you three days each. I'll try slowing down to see if I can get better results.

 

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:55 AM

E.B.

~~this is looking really good ,Buddy. I'm really liking the groundwork---the grasswork is very convincing. Good job on this project-I'm happy to see you sticking with it--only, did you lose track of the old thread? I would have noticed this pop up sooner--oh well...it's done now--part 1 & part 2 threads i guess. I look forward to see'in the rest of the figures--I'm always forced to slow way down when I get to painting mine--no matter how many times I paint a big group of figures I'm reminded of just how much time they take to get right, I have friends that can also get a figure done in a day, for me the average out to more like 3 days a piece I think--of course session times vary and so will your milageZip it!

Look forward to seeing more from you...

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Posted by Bocks Suv on Monday, May 10, 2010 3:31 PM

Now that you mention it, I'm glad to see those HHs gone.  It just ocurred to me that, aesthically speaking, they were a visual stopper - out of place, angular, cold, and ruined the flow and story of your dio. Maybe have a spray AND a mop for the paint. Don't forget to spill a little on the grass. Or maybe a dog could be running off with a paintbrush. An add'l  table or crates can also hold more of the details you're being applauded for.   

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Posted by Robh22 on Monday, May 10, 2010 2:58 PM

Electric Blues

 

 Robh22:

 

Quick question, are the tools in the workshop area scratch built? As I'm still very new to the whole military line, what is the car/jeep in the front? I really like that.

 

 

 

That's Tamiya's early Kubelwagen. Most of the tools and accesories have also come from Tamiya, the little soldier field kits that come in plastic bags and some from Italeri's field kit.

Thanks! That is what really makes a model scene come to life (at least to me) is the small little details like that. When they are added in just the right amount is just perfection. Big Smile

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, May 10, 2010 2:44 PM

This may be an oddball question, but were hedgehogs of that style in use that early in the war?

Probably... That design is actually Czech and was in use in 1938 along the Czech border... It's conceivable that they were being made in France in 1940 as they were pretty effective against armor up to 12 tons when emplaced in rows of three..

I didn't investigate the HH so as you mentioned, maybe they weren't even in use.

Whoopsie.. Guess I shoulda been more timely...

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Posted by Electric Blues on Monday, May 10, 2010 2:41 PM

Due to the overwhelming "success" of the hedgehogs, they are now gone! Embarrassed

Although I've investigated pretty much everything else, I didn't investigate the HH so as you mentioned, maybe they weren't even in use. I'll be replacing them with sandbags and more traditional barbed wire protection.

I think adding all the small detail is very important in a diorama. It's fun watching the viewer slowly discover them and they add to the whole ambiance of the scene. They do take a long, long time to include though.

The tools and mechanics will be the elements that tell the story of what's happening in the scene, especially the figure that will be painting the tank. At first I thought I'd have him using a mop to paint it but it seems they  already had compressors back then and a small workshop like this might have one. I like the idea of mop painting better though.  If I'm not mistaken, field paint came in solid blocks that they would dilute with whatever solvent they had on hand at the time.

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, May 10, 2010 12:14 PM

One other quick comment:

I really like the little details you've incorporated into this - the poster on the interior wall, the scrap iron (fenders?) behind the shed, by the guy taking a leak.  And, is that a campfire in the third pic, to the left front of the tank?

Really nice all around...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, May 10, 2010 12:12 PM

EB

I'm going to echo the comments that say 'Nice Job'.  This is really looking good.  It is also an interesting story - I like your idea here.

I'll also echo the comments that say the hedgehogs look out of place so close to the rear of the tank.

This may be an oddball question, but were hedgehogs of that style in use that early in the war?

I'll keep watching this one to see your continued progress!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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