Call of Duty scene

Yes there is the .50 caliber gun in the game, so thats why it was so easy beaten them

I wouldn't use the weapons effects in the game as a gauge to real weapons effects.  It is only a computer game for entertainment purposes.  It is like going to a movie, you should leave reality at the door.

Yes there is the .50 caliber gun in the game, so thats why it was so easy beaten them, the buliding look just liek they were bomb and destroyed, and at the begining of each level you read a introduction written by a actuak team leader of the squared, ex: Calgary highlanders.

There are many weapons, artilery and armor in the game all real like the thompson machine gun, .50 calliber gun, Panzer IV, the wellie jeep, hazerman, persenel carriers, tiger 1 and anti-aircraft guns.

Unfortunatly you can driver the armor, only your enemy can, I'm sure that the full version game (on xbox or PC) you can drive them, but you can use the artilery and in one level your on a B-24 manning the turrets.

One of my favorite level is operation detroid, when your sranded british glider crew has to reach CO alive, not easy with all the hazerman around.

T-rex wrote:

Yeah, but the real panzersherck could beat a tiger with less than three shots, right?

It depends on shot placements. 

Bgrigg wrote:

Gino, The assumption is yours. I quite agree that games aren't accurate, nor am I saying movies are. But as inspiration they're both fine. Dios don't "have" to be accurate to be dios. If someone did a "Battle of Hoth" dio, I wouldn't give them a hard time about accuracy. Same with painting figures of Roman Gladiators. There is darn little reference and fewer pictures about what colors were used. In defence of CoD, they spent an considerable amount of time and effort trying to be as historically accurate as they could be in a computer game. Their scenes of 88s look like pics of the real thing. The 88s may be missing details, but the look is there. The also paid homage to some great scenes from movies. Enemy at the Gate may have been dreck for accuracy, but the scene crossing the Volga is powerful. The "spawn point" at Carentan is the same location that Band of Brothers used in the mini-series, and they even had the piano left in the middle of the street. You prefer historical accuracy, and that's fine. In fact, down right excellent! I'm an admirer of your work. Others may prefer capturing the "feel" of the moment.  And some will be in between.

Amen brother!

Gino;

Wouldn't the Panzerfaust be the forerunner of the RPG? It looks like one.

From my information, the Panzerschreck was a German copy of our Bazooka, but heavier (88mm compared to 60mm). Our larger replacement, the M20 (89mm), didn't appear until Korea.

Mike T.

I agree, for inspiration and ideas, games and movies are fine.  For an actual referance, they are not.

The game sounds like they at least based it on actual battles.  Operation Market Garden was in Sep '44 in Holland.  There also was a Panzerschreck, it was basically the forerunner of the RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade).  A large caliber MG (.50 cal and above) can damage or destroy (if hit in the right spot) a halftrack as well.  They only protected the crew against schrapnel and small arms fire, .30 cal and below.

Histoiricly the game isn't accurate, for example, most of the levels are happening in netherland september 1944, in operation marcket garden (don't know if there was such mission) too many solider keep coming back after behing dead. Also There tiger 1 were still in there panzer gray suite, only early tiger were gray, and I don't think they did good desine with there Panzer IV. And I don't believe that a hazerman (german half-track) can be beaten by a machine gun, and did anyone heard of a panzersherk?

Althought the there are two scene that could be easy to do and I'm really intertasted.

The first scene is from the first level of a willy jeep got shot by a panzer IV (I will check if its camo is correct) and a few americain soliders are escaping in a trench.

http://z.about.com/d/psp/1/0/S/B/-/-/callofdutyscreen09.jpg

The other is a B-24 defending from german planes, mostly messermich, I'll do this in large scale.

http://z.about.com/d/psp/1/0/V/B/-/-/callofdutyscreen06.jpg

This is just a few ideas, but won't be doing them for a while.

Gino,

The assumption is yours. I quite agree that games aren't accurate, nor am I saying movies are. But as inspiration they're both fine. Dios don't "have" to be accurate to be dios. If someone did a "Battle of Hoth" dio, I wouldn't give them a hard time about accuracy. Same with painting figures of Roman Gladiators. There is darn little reference and fewer pictures about what colors were used.

In defence of CoD, they spent an considerable amount of time and effort trying to be as historically accurate as they could be in a computer game. Their scenes of 88s look like pics of the real thing. The 88s may be missing details, but the look is there. The also paid homage to some great scenes from movies. Enemy at the Gate may have been dreck for accuracy, but the scene crossing the Volga is powerful. The "spawn point" at Carentan is the same location that Band of Brothers used in the mini-series, and they even had the piano left in the middle of the street.

You prefer historical accuracy, and that's fine. In fact, down right excellent! I'm an admirer of your work. Others may prefer capturing the "feel" of the moment.  And some will be in between.

Bill

Bgrigg wrote:

The original PC game Call of Duty had many scenes lifted straight from movies. The opening scene of Russians crossing the Volga came from Enemy at the Gate. The street scene of Carentan is from Band of Brothers.

Now you are assuming that movies are historically accurate as well.  They usually are not either.

HeavyArty wrote:

I wouldn't use any video game as reference for a dio or model.  They are not that historically accurate or detailed.  You will get much better info from good old research on internet sites or (heaven forbid) a reference book.  You will be amazed at what you will be able to find with some good ol' fashioned research.

For inspiration yes! Referance no. I too enjoy WWII games on my comp and find myself inspired for a dio idea from either some action or a cutscene from the game. But As HeaveyArty said not for referance.

Get the inspiration then do some research.