Diorama "Leave No One Behind"

The dio looks okay. It could be a reanactment scene.

MM,

IanIsBored2000 wrote:

Kolschey wrote: This is what I don't get. The work he's posting isn't even his own work. Imaginine if you will that this was a forum about fine art. Every week, I post a drawing that my roomate (let's call him Dave) made. When folks do offer suggestions and criticism, my response is: "I helped him pass Biology last semester, so now he draws pictures for me whenever I ask him." The question is: Why am I putting this up here? Why isn't Dave answering these questions? Doesn't he even care about these drawings, or is he simply content that I reckon that the weekly sketch is fair payment for the time I spent helping him last semester?            The reason "Dave" doesn't answer the questions himself is because "Dave" doesn't speak English.

Kolschey wrote:

This is what I don't get. The work he's posting isn't even his own work. Imaginine if you will that this was a forum about fine art. Every week, I post a drawing that my roomate (let's call him Dave) made. When folks do offer suggestions and criticism, my response is: "I helped him pass Biology last semester, so now he draws pictures for me whenever I ask him." The question is: Why am I putting this up here? Why isn't Dave answering these questions? Doesn't he even care about these drawings, or is he simply content that I reckon that the weekly sketch is fair payment for the time I spent helping him last semester?

The reason "Dave" doesn't answer the questions himself is because "Dave" doesn't speak English. 

I'm not getting in to this one except to point a couple thing

IMO the building/rubble looks very nicely done

Also IMO, the foam/lichen stuff has never seemed to produce realistic groundwork effect to me.

I still want to see what AI/Tuk could do if they were provided plenty of time.  Not meant as criticism, just saying I'm curious what they build on their own time, IF they build on their own time.

This is what I don't get.

The work he's posting isn't even his own work.

Imaginine if you will that this was a forum about fine art.

Every week, I post a drawing that my roomate (let's call him Dave) made. When folks do offer suggestions and criticism, my response is: "I helped him pass Biology last semester, so now he draws pictures for me whenever I ask him."

The question is: Why am I putting this up here? Why isn't Dave answering these questions? Doesn't he even care about these drawings, or is he simply content that I reckon that the weekly sketch is fair payment for the time I spent helping him last semester?

Buddho wrote:

Can a moderator please lock this post?  I think enough has been written, unfortunately.

As someone mentioned, nothing downright cruel has been directed straight at him. If there was, he most likely deserved it for something that he said. If not, the person who commented crudely about him should rethink what they said. Moderators have final decision anyway...

P.S. -I hope the soldier plans on throwing that smoke nade past his buddies.

Hermesminiatures wrote:

Why is the medic carrying normal infantry gear, and a weapon? That was something that didn't happen. Honestly the tracks look awful, gloss black is not a good color. The vehicle portrayed served at Tarawa, on the other side of the world - big mistake. If the ground is soft enough for that much scrub grass to gorw, there will be track marks. My overall impression with this dio (as with most of the stuff you post, MM) is one of complete mediocrity and carelessness. Whenever I see AI's work I can easily see more things wrong than right. A lot of beginner or intermediate modelers post their work here, which is similar in quality to AI's work. We go easier on them because they are willing to recieve correction, they are desiring to improve thier skills, and most importantly they don't try to justify the gross innacuracies in their builds with this excuse or that excuse. MM, if you want any respect on this forum, don't come here to show off your "perfect models" - they are far from that. None of us builds "perfect" models, but we try to get as close as possible, and by offering each other tips and suggestions we continually make progress towards that goal. I find some of the dios you post to be pretty cool, and despite some inaccuracies I enjoy looking at them, but I think the reason others don't is because you sometimes try to justify the errors in AI's work, attempting to make it look better than it really is. If you don't have as high a standard as some of us, that is fine, but I think the things you post would be much more well-recived if you could admit that it is not as good as some of our builds. In my opinion, these are some examples of top-quality diorama building:   I can't compare my dios to that - if I did, I'd probably get laughed off this forum, much as you sometimes are. AI's work can be pretty cool at times, but just don't make it out to be more than it is.

Buddho wrote:

All of you who make fun of Model Maniac and Art Instructor should be ashamed of yourselves. I thought this was an open forum where all could display models without being ridiculed. What good comes out of beating up these posts? What is the matter with you? IF he decides to show his collection of work, then so be it. And if you dont have anything but jokes to reply with, move on to the next post. This is disgusting......

why lock it nothing slanderous or outrightly cruel has been said.

people are just commenting on the same things that MM never listens too

the doog wrote:

kenny_conklin wrote: i didnt read all the replies but is it me or the guy at the far left of the picture behind the tank is throwing a grenade at his own people ?? sorry for not reading all but i skip around cause it is always the same thing with the MM threads and he never listens OH MY GOD--I was gonna type the SAME thing about a half hour ago but then thought, "naw I've said enough already"! But it's TRUE!!! LOL!

lol i guess i may have been the first :)

kenny_conklin wrote:

i didnt read all the replies but is it me or the guy at the far left of the picture behind the tank is throwing a grenade at his own people ?? sorry for not reading all but i skip around cause it is always the same thing with the MM threads and he never listens

i didnt read all the replies but is it me or the guy at the far left of the picture behind the tank is throwing a grenade at his own people ??

sorry for not reading all but i skip around cause it is always the same thing with the MM threads and he never listens

bondoman wrote:

ben1227 wrote: The tank looks like it came straight from the factory, which IMHO I don't think it did and perhaps could use a wash and some weathering. Well, since we weren't told the location of the scene, nor does the diorama offer much in the way of clues, like a sign, I think you are all jumping to erroneous conclusions. It is either: 1. Downtown Tarawa or B. The Battle of Schenectady

All of you who make fun of Model Maniac and Art Instructor should be ashamed of yourselves. I thought this was an open forum where all could display models without being ridiculed. What good comes out of beating up these posts? What is the matter with you? IF he decides to show his collection of work, then so be it. And if you dont have anything but jokes to reply with, move on to the next post. This is disgusting......

ben1227 wrote:

The tank looks like it came straight from the factory, which IMHO I don't think it did and perhaps could use a wash and some weathering.

Well, since we weren't told the location of the scene, nor does the diorama offer much in the way of clues, like a sign, I think you are all jumping to erroneous conclusions. It is either:

1. Downtown Tarawa

or

B. The Battle of Schenectady

HeavyArty wrote:

Not too bad overall.  As pointed out, the tanker doesn't fit the scene at all.  The weathering on the....  Oh why bother.  It will fall on deaf ears as usual because it is built by the great "AI" and has to be correct...blah, blah, blah....

I was expecting a response like that.

 MM-

I suggest if you didn't rush AI and gave him a little more time he could turn out better stuff. (Maybe.) The tank looks like it came straight from the factory, which IMHO I don't think it did and perhaps could use a wash and some weathering.

P.S. If we aren't more respectful for MM and his opinions this thread'll get locked up too like MM's last post. Do I care if it does though?

I didn't like the tree. The structure is nice, if a little small, but the green foam turf looked fake.

[quote user="Manstein's revenge"]

...that tank commander is one cool cat...must be Lafayette Poole...

Had to Google that one... I'm a wingnut after all. Good story, learn something new every day. If it was ol' Poole though, he'd probably be riding on the outside of the turret.

Phil_H wrote:

Is it just me or does the shooter look like he's presenting a wide open target to anyone in the direction he's shooting? A right-hander, he's standing in the open with his body fully exposed, shooting to the left of the scene. (This is most apparent in the last pic above, where he is bracketed by the two pillars.) A couple of scale feet to the right and he could have used the pillar for cover for most of his body, with just the gun and right arm exposed. Unless of course, there's heavy fire coming from the right, in which case he's shooting in the wrong direction.

Of all the flaws with this dio, this one bugs me the least.  Yeah, it might be ideal for a guy who shoots right handed to be on the other side of the pillar.  And yeah, this is what guys are trained to do, blah, blah, blah...  The reality is that combat is not 'ideal' and sometimes, (lots of times actually), you find yourself in situations where something has to be done.  For example, sometimes you see somebody who just really needs to get shot, and you might not have the luxury of picking the ideal position to do the shooting from.  In fact, that little quirk of this dio is actually one of my 'favorite' elements (I'm using that term VERY loosely here...), because to me, it adds a certain sense of urgency.

Now, on the other hand...  well, Heavy Arty said it best, so I'm not going to start, but would SOMEONE PLEASE, wake up that tank crewman - he's gonna get hurt sleeping up there like that...

I think the simplest explanation for the mediocrity is this:

          "Art Instructor" is obviously churning out these dios as fast as he can, knowing that every one he completes knocks another $20, $50, maybe $100 off of his debt to MM--he knows by now that MM really doesn't have all that high a standard for completion, therefore, why kill himself with details about accuracy, story lines, etc?

Quite simply, given MM's blushing, fawning praise and blind loyalty to AI's mediocrity, there is NO GOOD REASON to improve.

Now that's sad!

What's even saddder is WHY DO I CARE?!?! AAAAAARGHHHHHH!!!!!

Hermesminiatures wrote:

Now that is simply superb and tells a story!

Why is the medic carrying normal infantry gear, and a weapon? That was something that didn't happen.

Honestly the tracks look awful, gloss black is not a good color.

The vehicle portrayed served at Tarawa, on the other side of the world - big mistake.

If the ground is soft enough for that much scrub grass to gorw, there will be track marks.

My overall impression with this dio (as with most of the stuff you post, MM) is one of complete mediocrity and carelessness. Whenever I see AI's work I can easily see more things wrong than right. A lot of beginner or intermediate modelers post their work here, which is similar in quality to AI's work. We go easier on them because they are willing to recieve correction, they are desiring to improve thier skills, and most importantly they don't try to justify the gross innacuracies in their builds with this excuse or that excuse.

MM, if you want any respect on this forum, don't come here to show off your "perfect models" - they are far from that. None of us builds "perfect" models, but we try to get as close as possible, and by offering each other tips and suggestions we continually make progress towards that goal. I find some of the dios you post to be pretty cool, and despite some inaccuracies I enjoy looking at them, but I think the reason others don't is because you sometimes try to justify the errors in AI's work, attempting to make it look better than it really is. If you don't have as high a standard as some of us, that is fine, but I think the things you post would be much more well-recived if you could admit that it is not as good as some of our builds.

In my opinion, these are some examples of top-quality diorama building:

I can't compare my dios to that - if I did, I'd probably get laughed off this forum, much as you sometimes are. AI's work can be pretty cool at times, but just don't make it out to be more than it is. 

"Well, children, looks like it's SSDD for lunch again."

  The best idea in most of MM's recent threads..............nite everyone! Shame, but they are just becoming a verbal war........

  Boomer...