F-4F Phantom II West German White Horse 6 May - DONE!

Mikeym_us,

It is this Revell Kit 04522, . It says that it will build an F-4F for the German AF, "35 Jahre JG74 Molders.

I wanted to do a USAF camo theme with AM decals but like I said, I do not have the information/pictures to find the decals that would make an "F" so I decided to build OB.

I'll just add a couple shots that I took of the afterburner off the F-4C at the Seattle Museum of Flight

Hope these will help.

The wing has slat actuators so it has to be an -E.  Revell/Monogram never did a slatted -S.

Mark

IBuild148

Good Morning All,

I am building my first Phantom, a Revell kit and so far no major problems. 

I have no technical experience with this aircraft. I just like its storied past, the way it looks and have always wanted to build one.

Following are 2 PICs with questions that I hope someone can answer.

            

            

     Thanks

         

Which one are you building? The F-4C or the F-4J? and if it is the Charlie model are you doing it in SEA camo or ADC gray? BTW if you do SEA camo you could try painting it ADC Gray first and then put the camo on top as was done on the actual birds. BTW Testors MM FS16473 Aircraft gray is also ADC Gray so if you have any of that laying around you are good to go.

Hmm never mind That looks like a Hasegawa bird in Revell packaging Probably a Echo model.

Ben and Berny,

You both "ROCK"! Thank you so much for the quick reply and the in depth information. I will post more pics as I progress.

Have a Great Day!

Bernie was one of the guys I was talking about!

Ben

You'll probably hear from  couple of guys here who actually worked on F-4s, but perhaps I can help a little. The openings under the wing are auxilary air inlet doors that would open when the landing gear was down. IIRC, they'd also snap open when the jet was shut down, so you pretty much always see them open on operational F-4s. Museums usually close them. The insides of the doors were insignia red, and the underside of the engine was various metallic colors. The airframe parts in that area seem to be zinc chromate or Interior Green.   There used to be a company that sold a neat little resin insert for that area, but they're long out of business.

For the areas around the afterburner nozzles, I'd start with Steel and then darken things with Exhaust. The real jet was mostly stainless steel and titanium in that area.  If you look in the F-4, RF-4, and QF-4 sections here, you can see there was quite a bit of variation in the colors:  http://www.primeportal.net/the_airstrip.htm   5057 Phantoms is also a good source of F-4 pics, but the search doesn't seem to be working: http://www.5053phantoms.com/index-Dateien/frame.html

HTH.

Ben

The first picture is the Aux Air Doors.  They would be open when the gear is down.  The inside color is flat insignia red.

The second question is the blast panels were made of titanium and would get very dirty from the exhaust.  Use MM titanium with a mixture of steel to lighten up the paint.  After it cures use a wash of black to cover the panels to simulate exhaust stains.

The burner can secondary AB eye lids should be painted dark titanium on the outside.  Inside the eyelids should be painted the same color but dry brush with a light mixture of exhaust and black.  The primary AB eyelids should be painted dark titanium with a wash of dirty black.  Inside the exhaust area is a light to dark green AB liner drybrushed with light gray and black streaks.  If you want to show a high time engine the AB liner will be a dark or ash gray color, drybrushed with darker gray and black.

Above the blast panels are the shingle panels and they should be painted in steel and titanium mix.  They did not get dirty like the blast panels but would crack very easy and had to be changed.  So if you want lighten individual panels to reflect this.

I hope I was able to help.