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Revell 1/48 TBD-1..finished!

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Revell 1/48 TBD-1..finished!
Posted by fermis on Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:51 PM

 Well, it has been a while since I had good enough inspiration for a good project. I finally landed on this TBD. I built one as a kid. Loved the flapping wings. Of course, as soon as I finished it, I flew it around my room like a bird..........flap, flap, SNAP........WAAAAAAAAA!!!!!Crying

 Anyway, I know after my rescribe on the P-61, I said I probably wouldn't go through all that trouble again, but, I couldn't stand them raised squares all over the fuselageIck!. So, a rescribe and rivet job it must be.

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 I haven't broken into any paint yet. I'm a bit puzzled as to which colors to use on the interior. The book that came with the kit has B/W photos, which appears to be NMF on the inside. I think it's from a yellow winged bird though. I plan on a later, blue/grey with white belly. Usual, interior green???

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:09 PM

Might a blue/gray Devastator have still been NMF interior?

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:25 PM

Oh, yeah!  This is gonna be good, I can feel it. Can't wait to see your work on this kit fermis!

Frank 

 

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Posted by mucker on Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:13 PM
If anyone can pull this off, you can Fermis. This will be fun to watch!!

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Friday, June 11, 2010 1:16 AM

Can't comment on the colors but all that rescribing and riveting sure looks like fun.

Tony

            

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 11, 2010 2:01 AM

I found this pic on Life's archives a while back. I would say go with interior green based on this pic, no matter what finish you choose.

Uss Enterprise off Hawaii, early 1941

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, June 11, 2010 6:24 AM

stikpusher

I found this pic on Life's archives a while back. I would say go with interior green based on this pic, no matter what finish you choose.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/stikpusher/tbd-11940.jpg

Uss Enterprise off Hawaii, early 1941

 

 Ah yes!!!! Thank you very much, I was hoping for green!!!!

 

Thanks everybody, I'll do my best to live up to your expectations!!!!

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Posted by jtrace214 on Friday, June 11, 2010 6:40 AM

Thanks also as I am still building Monograms version,and I had conflicting  info on the interior.depending on where I went it said NMF or green,lol.... Mine is also midway era so. I guess I guessed right for once.Now just to find the front cowling as it has gone MIA on my bench lol.... I really need to build my new one.

 

 

John

the pic to the left is my weekend condo lol

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:13 AM

Sometimes I look at those Yellow-winged Beasties and wonder if the crews ever had a clue about what was gonna happen to them shortly after they got painted blue...

TBD= Torpedo Bomber, Dead...

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, June 11, 2010 11:49 AM

Always nice to see a build blog featuring this classic!  I built it too, as a kid, and I remember how pleased I was with the detail, when I opened the box, compared to the older Monogram USN kits that I built in prior years.

I love your scribing and riveting, too.  Though I'm not as much of a fanatic about scribed vs raised panel lines, this kit certainly deserves that extra attention.

Regarding the interior color, I think you'll need to check your sources for the specific aircraft you're building.  Interior green was applied to some aircraft, at the end of the yellowwings period, and some aircraft still had the aluminum color, I think it depended on when the maintenance crews could schedule the work, against the backdrop of events that overtook us at the time.

I've got this same boxing as an eBay find, but along with the booklet, I've got the Squadron book and another booklet by a different publisher-Aero-something? can't recall, the logo is an ace-of-spades-I can see if I can find more pics for you, too.   The Life mag photos are excellent, too.

Regards,

Brad

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 11, 2010 4:48 PM

Hans von Hammer

Sometimes I look at those Yellow-winged Beasties and wonder if the crews ever had a clue about what was gonna happen to them shortly after they got painted blue...

TBD= Torpedo Bomber, Dead...

Until the morning of June 4 1942, the TBD actually had a respectable combat record. The early raids on Lae, Tulagi, Wake, Marcus Islands etc. all proved well within its capabilities. On May 7 1942, their hour of glory, 7 torpedo hits in to Shoho

The next day, the faster "Crane sisters" were able to outmaneuver the torpedoes used. At Midway, the main shortcoming when analyzed, was not the TBD itself, but rather the lack of fighter protection for the torpedo squadrons. The TBD's vulnerability and the torpedoes again were also MAJOR shortcomings that morning. The TBF also had a very bad day that morning during its combat debut  (100% losses when the write off of the sole survivor is included- and no hits scored). It is interesting to read Commander Waldron's words to his squadron how he foresaw that indeed they may be shot down to the last man. Both Commanders Lindsey and Massey, being combat experienced in the TBD by that point I am sure also had little illusion about their chances of success and survival that morning. Brave men all.

 

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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:29 PM

The instruction sheet from my kit stated aluminum for yellow wing, interior green for blue plane.

I love that kit. It comes with my all time favorite "standing pilot" figure.

I guess that would more appropriately be "aviator".

Super fun kit to build, I know you'll do it up right.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:21 PM

PaintsWithBrush

The instruction sheet from my kit stated aluminum for yellow wing, interior green for blue plane.

I love that kit. It comes with my all time favorite "standing pilot" figure.

I guess that would more appropriately be "aviator".

Super fun kit to build, I know you'll do it up right.

Of all the Monogram "classic kits" this has to be an all time favorite of mine as well. A quick look at this photo from the same series as the one I posted above shows that either interior color will work on the Yellow Wing birds will work. The foreground TBD has a green cockpit, while the background one (6-T-16)appears to be aluminum.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:58 PM

Thanks fer the TBD update, Stik...  Still... The juevos on the TBD crews.. Huge, man.. Heck, all Torpecker crews for that matter... Every gun on the target aiming at you, no place to manuver to or space to do it in, can't do much more than stomp on a rudder pedal to open up your gunner's line of fire if he needs it... Brrrr....

I know it's only a sim, but I've been flying a TBD in CFS 2 the last week or so, trying to sink the Shoho, and haven't survived more than a few seconds after torp release, lol... Sometimes I didn't even make it long enough to drop, lol...

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Posted by fermis on Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:10 AM

I managed to get in a little bit of time yesterday, didn't get real far. But, today, I made a bit of progress.

Added a few bits here and there to the fuselage sides, wire, aluminum and sheet styrene. A couple bits of leftover PE fret were bend to shape to replace the forward canopy rails. Also, tabs from PE fret were used for crank handles.

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 Lots of work to the main part of the pit. Scratched new rudder pedals, along with brakes, aluminum foot ...uh...thingys, forward bulkhead, lots of wires and do-dads. Control stick "boot" is alum. foil.

 

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I must say, I'm quite proud of these!!!  The kit seats are pretty clunky, so I scratched some new ones, courtesy of an Arizona "Sweet Tea" can.

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Still have a lot of work to do on the office, but, I'm calling it an evening.

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:34 AM

Bow Down very nice intricate work there! Do you solder the aluminum to shape on the seats or use some kind of glue?

 

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Posted by fermis on Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:50 PM

stikpusher

Bow Down very nice intricate work there! Do you solder the aluminum to shape on the seats or use some kind of glue?

 Thanks, no soldering. I start by cutting a length of alum., then grind the backrest to shape with a dremel. Bend for the seatpan. The sides are cut, then I bend the edges at a 90/ ,so there's tabs to CA the seatpan to. Let that dry a few minutes and grind the sides to shape. That little curved piece in the bottom corner (pan-back) is a seperate piece, also CA'ed.

 

 I had a full day of the good stuff. I added a few more wires and bits/pieces, and a few donor parts from the boneyard.

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I'll have some color in the next update. Hopefully I'll get a rain day this week, otherwise, no joy til the weekend.

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Posted by swingr1121 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:12 PM

Fermis, that looks fantastic.  Keep it up!

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Posted by FastEagle1 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:35 PM

Fermis,

Really nice scratch building in the cockpit!  This is shaping up to be a fantastic build.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 14, 2010 9:47 AM

That's EXACTLY the kind of "old School" modeling and detailing that's so lacking today...  Outstanding work, mein Freund..

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Posted by fermis on Monday, June 14, 2010 12:02 PM

 Thanks guys!!!!

Hans, I'm all about the "old school", much more rewarding, and you just can't get more "bang for the buck". I'm all for some accessories from time to time, I like to keep those limited to items other than cockpits.

 

Sprayed the green last night, and thanks to the wet weather, I have the day off. Got right to it this morning, picking out the details and weathering. At this moment, the fuse halves are closed and I'm ready to take on the wings and their issues.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, June 14, 2010 12:10 PM

Wow, I like the details you've added!  Who needs aftermarket?  Your seats are excellent, can't wait for your next installment!

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 14, 2010 12:55 PM

Toast[:D[[  Awesome dude..! Really Sweeet... I have 2 in the stash, along with decals for Ensign Gay's plane, along with an autographed pic of him shortly after being rescued.. War Bond tour I think..

Keep up the Great work..!Yes

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 14, 2010 2:09 PM

Looking great! Now that you have the color coat on, it really ties everything together. I am looking forward to see what you do with the gunners turret.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by fermis on Monday, June 14, 2010 2:28 PM

Thanks guys.

I'm not quite sure yet about the gunners area, other than, the gun will be stowed and I have a PE donor part for the perforated half ring.

Hey Stik, you wouldn't happen to have a good pic of the wingfold mech. would you???  I've never done a build with folded wings, I think I'm gonna give it a go with this one.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 14, 2010 2:57 PM

I never used to build my carrier birds with folded wings when that was an option. But these days with display space for kits at a premium....

how is this shot?


 

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Posted by fermis on Monday, June 14, 2010 3:36 PM

That'll work, thanks a lot. I may just have them open...decisions, decisions!!!

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Posted by swingr1121 on Monday, June 14, 2010 7:34 PM

Personally I think that you should leave the wings as is.  If you fold them you're going to hide all that great scratch work you did in the pit... That's just my opinion though...

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Monday, June 14, 2010 10:57 PM

Fermis, Swingr has a good point.  That wiring detail is awesome.  The crew area is going to look fantastic under all that glass.  Those wings fold right down on the canopy.  That would obscure some great work.  But the plane really looks cool with the wings folded.  Tough decision!  Maybe you could pose them in a partially  folded position, or only one wing folded.  Were the wings folded mechanically or manually?  Maybe you could have a couple guys in the process of folding a wing.  That's enough of that dribble.  The interior paint looks great.  Good choice.  Rick.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:24 AM

From this shot it looks manual

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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