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Revell 1/48 TBD-1..finished!

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Posted by jetmodeler on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:00 AM

The cockpit looks great so far.

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:59 AM

Fermis, looks great man!!  The F4F Wildcat has manually folded wings, so I suspect the TBD was manual too, being as they where both early war aircraft.

  

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:25 PM

B17Pilot

Fermis, looks great man!!  The F4F Wildcat has manually folded wings, so I suspect the TBD was manual too, being as they where both early war aircraft.

Actually, the TBD had hydraulically-operating folding wings, in fact, I think it was the first US carrier aircraft to enter service with mechanically operated wings.  I think there is a shot of a TBD folding its wings after landing, in "Dive Bomber".

Regards,

Brad

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:44 PM

 Thanks guys.

I was thinking of doing them folded, as a copout to the poor fit of the wing sections. It'll be a bit harder to fit the wing sections nicely, so, I'm gonna do it the hard way.....wings open....ready to go!!!

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Posted by Julez72 on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:09 PM

Fermis, That is jaw dropping work...OutstandingYes So what do you prefer Models or Guitar??? i tend to favour the Fender.....

 

 

 

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:41 PM

I just saw this thread.  Nice work my friend.

Yes

Love the seats and wiring

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:10 AM

 Thanks again everybody.

 

 

Julez72

Fermis, That is jaw dropping work...OutstandingYes So what do you prefer Models or Guitar??? i tend to favour the Fender.....

AWE MAN.......Fender?????   AAARRRRGH   Jackson is where it's at!!!!!    I love both about equally.

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:10 AM

Ya know... the other guys have a great point!  Folding up the wings might hide all of that awesome detail.  Hope to see her with the wings down man!

Seriously- that cockpit work is OVER THE TOP!  Love seeing the scratchbuilt details.

Frank 

 

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Posted by jetmodeler on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:28 AM

Daywalker

Ya know... the other guys have a great point!  Folding up the wings might hide all of that awesome detail.  Hope to see her with the wings down man!

Seriously- that cockpit work is OVER THE TOP!  Love seeing the scratchbuilt details.

Ditto

 

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:22 AM

Fermis.

This is terrific work. Great way to detail an old kit. Can't wait to see it done.

Cheers, Aaron

Aaron Skinner

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Monday, June 21, 2010 9:52 PM

 Plodding along real sloooooow. Trying to get these wings to fit right has been a PITA!!! I think I have that licked. Sanding the leading edge, with all that raised detail really tries the patience as well.

Here's a few of the things I have been doing.

I had to add some extensions to the wing parts, to fill the gaps(never had putty go well for me)

This is roughly what the gap was like before the styrene filler. (a touch exaggerated)

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After

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I just CAed a strip of styrene to the end of the part, cut it down close then filed and sanded.

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 The exaust pipes don't look so hot, so aluminum tubing to replace them.

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I cut out the molded in nav.lights and made some new ones. I sanded down two sides of some clear sprue to make a 90* angle. Drilled out the "bulbs" and painted red/green, then painted the rest silver.

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Cut part down and CA'ed into place.

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Using my trusty grinding bit and Dremel, I ground them down to shape and sanded them along with the wing. Then, used a buffing wheel in the Dremel, they got polished.

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The rest of this evening was spent just cleaning things up a bit. If we get the rain that the weather guessers are calling for tomorrow, I ought to be able to get her almost ready for some paint.

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, June 21, 2010 11:57 PM

More outstanding workYes Lokking forward to seeing it all finished......

Yeah Jacksons are for pro's, i can't justify spending that much while i'm still learning.......

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:18 AM

Nav lights look good...  I use the clear red & green plastic from toothbrushes for that, m'self...

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:31 PM

Hans von Hammer

Nav lights look good...  I use the clear red & green plastic from toothbrushes for that, m'self...

 I always forget about those things (Lite Brite pegs incuded), gonna hafta hit the dollar store!!!

 

 Made a bit of headway yesterday.

Repositioned the tail surfaces and redid the tailwheel.

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I shall be painting soon!!!

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:51 PM

What can I say that hasnt been said Fermis your builds are amazing Bow Down

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by jetmodeler on Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:58 PM

The build looks great so far.Toast

I have one question. What paint scheme are you going to use?

 

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, June 25, 2010 12:04 PM

Wow, Fermis, great progress!  I like your detail on the navigation lights, I'm going to try that myself, I never thought about drilling out and putting the color inside, that sounds like a great idea.

Regards,

Brad

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by fermis on Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:59 PM

 Thanks guys!!!!

 

jetmodeler

The build looks great so far.Toast

I have one question. What paint scheme are you going to use?

 I got it for ya right here!!!!!

 

I did some painting yesterday, white belly and a couple shades of intermediate blue for the rest. Inspiration for the markings came from this pic in the book that came with the kit.

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And this pic was inspiration for the well worn finish.

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Today, I cut masks and painted the markings. I started with white, then cut out the stars from the decals to use as masks for painting the blue (before decals set). As soon as the paint was dry to the touch, I used a bit of masking tape to pull off the decal/mask.

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Mkngs all painted and a raw umber wash.

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Still got some beating up to do yet, then on to the fiddly bits!

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:05 PM

Outstanding work.  Looking forward to seeing her finished.

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, June 28, 2010 3:03 AM

very nice paintwork/weathering....Nice and wornYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 7:47 AM

Kinda dark, Pard... Can you adjust the exposure with Windows?  I tried, but some error keeps me from saving them.. There's a ligghter-shaded band of some sort around the TBDs and I can't tell if a different color or just newer paint on 600 & 602..

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 28, 2010 8:16 AM

SurpriseBow DownToast, WOW!!!  very Sweet..!

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 28, 2010 8:24 AM

Hans von Hammer

Kinda dark, Pard... Can you adjust the exposure with Windows?  I tried, but some error keeps me from saving them.. There's a ligghter-shaded band of some sort around the TBDs and I can't tell if a different color or just newer paint on 600 & 602..

IMHO, I think there is a differant color band on the fuselage, I believe its due to the time period of the shot, I can't remember the dating, but the Navy changed the size of the fuselage roundels, in '42 ?? from the larger Prewar/Early war to the smaller roundel. I beleive the differant color band is from overpainting the previous markings to the new..

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 28, 2010 8:31 AM

p38jl

 Hans von Hammer:

Kinda dark, Pard... Can you adjust the exposure with Windows?  I tried, but some error keeps me from saving them.. There's a ligghter-shaded band of some sort around the TBDs and I can't tell if a different color or just newer paint on 600 & 602..

 

IMHO, I think there is a differant color band on the fuselage, I believe its due to the time period of the shot, I can't remember the dating, but the Navy changed the size of the fuselage roundels, in '42 ?? from the larger Prewar/Early war to the smaller roundel. I beleive the differant color band is from overpainting the previous markings to the new..

Ps.. also the deletion of the RED centers on the roundels...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 8:35 AM

p38jl

 Hans von Hammer:

Kinda dark, Pard... Can you adjust the exposure with Windows?  I tried, but some error keeps me from saving them.. There's a lighter-shaded band of some sort around the TBDs and I can't tell if a different color or just newer paint on 600 & 602..

 

IMHO, I think there is a differant color band on the fuselage, I believe its due to the time period of the shot, I can't remember the dating, but the Navy changed the size of the fuselage roundels, in '42 ?? from the larger Prewar/Early war to the smaller roundel. I beleive the differant color band is from overpainting the previous markings to the new..

Well, that's where I have some confusing issues too... Pre-war/Post Yellow-wing, the US Navy had one size of roundel on the fuselage, then went to an over-sized one (but only in the PTO, I think) just prior to the Coral Sea battle, then painted out the red center between then & Midway, THEN changed the size again, all in 1942...

Stikpusher (I think) posted a link once upon a time to US Navy Markings and Camouflage but damned if I can find it now...

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:00 AM

Hans von Hammer

 p38jl:

 Hans von Hammer:

Kinda dark, Pard... Can you adjust the exposure with Windows?  I tried, but some error keeps me from saving them.. There's a lighter-shaded band of some sort around the TBDs and I can't tell if a different color or just newer paint on 600 & 602..

 

IMHO, I think there is a differant color band on the fuselage, I believe its due to the time period of the shot, I can't remember the dating, but the Navy changed the size of the fuselage roundels, in '42 ?? from the larger Prewar/Early war to the smaller roundel. I beleive the differant color band is from overpainting the previous markings to the new..

 

Well, that's where I have some confusing issues too... Pre-war/Post Yellow-wing, the US Navy had one size of roundel on the fuselage, then went to an over-sized one (but only in the PTO, I think) just prior to the Coral Sea battle, then painted out the red center between then & Midway, THEN changed the size again, all in 1942...

Stikpusher (I think) posted a link once upon a time to US Navy Markings and Camouflage but damned if I can find it now...

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq2-1.htm

above is link I found with a quick search..

also another possibility, is the band is where the numbers are, could it be these planes were front line planes, returned to the states or rear areas for training ?The front line unit codes painted out, and training numbers painted on,  the fuselage numbers are high as in high numbered, didnt most training planes use high numbers ? most front line planes had lower numbers didn't they ??

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:22 AM

I think so... The unit codes were removed right around the "Midway" time... 'Course, they could be aircraft from "Theater" OTUs rather than "Stateside" units... I'm not all that up on what the Navy did during that time-frame...

One of the things I read about was that the use of the US Insignia on both wings was discontinued because of an unintended "Aiming Point" given to enemy gunners allowing them to "aim at center mass between the stars" in order to target the cockpit.  The red disc was ordered removed due to "friendly fire" incidents, gunners mistaking the red center for Japanese Hinomaru...

The short-lived red-bordered insignia was added in the summer of '43, and it was felt that it wouldn't be a recognition issue for gunners.. Turned out that the 'Planners" were wrong: Gunners were still "Seeing red" and shooting at aircraft marked with the red borders...

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Posted by jetmodeler on Monday, June 28, 2010 10:04 AM

Nice choice on the paint scheme. I like the worn finish.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 10:09 AM

The thing is, did the TBDs survive long enough to weather that much, lol..

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, June 28, 2010 10:46 AM

I like the TBD's alot... Love the build man! Keep up the good work!!   I have 2 in my stash..!

 

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