Classic revell 1/32 Spitfire Mk1

The kit still looks good after all these years.  You've done a very nice job with it.

thanks, i had fun making it

Great build!  I like the subtle weathering.  LOL  the pilot looks kind of like he had 1 pint too many lol.  I have this one and the matching Hurricane in my stash. I have been looking to eventually get a Typhoon in the same scale and build them as a set.  Then I can do a set of the ME109 and FW190 on the other end. :)

...a dino of a kit but fun to build.

You say that like it's a bad  thing, lol... Makes it sound kinda like you got caught "dancing" with a fat chick by your buddies, lol...  Those gals kits can make better modelers out of anyone who jumps in and grabs onto 'em with both hands, lol... 

Sparrowhyperion

Great build!  I like the subtle weathering.  LOL  the pilot looks kind of like he had 1 pint too many lol.  I have this one and the matching Hurricane in my stash. I have been looking to eventually get a Typhoon in the same scale and build them as a set.  Then I can do a set of the ME109 and FW190 on the other end. :)

Hans von Hammer

...a dino of a kit but fun to build.

You say that like it's a bad  thing, lol... Makes it sound kinda like you got caught "dancing" with a fat chick by your buddies, lol...  Those gals kits can make better modelers out of anyone who jumps in and grabs onto 'em with both hands, lol... 

 

Its a lot easier to get a realistic look with recesed lines, teh raised kind take more work.

be that as it may, I prefer the older kits, cheaper, far more bang to the buck and a challenge as opposed to teh high tech and high priced stuff I see so much of these days.

Nice work on the Golden Oldie.  Well done.

Regards,  Rick

Yeh the older kits are great  The thing I love most about modeling is the incredible feeling of accomplishment you get when you take  a bunch of plastic parts and then after building it, look at the work of art you have created.  There's nothing like it.  The newer stuff is great too, but I kind of like just sitting down with a kit, some glue, sandpaper, an xacto knife, and a pair of wire cutters. :)

Rich

Chris FFZ

 

Hans von Hammer:

 

 

...a dino of a kit but fun to build.

 

You say that like it's a bad  thing, lol... Makes it sound kinda like you got caught "dancing" with a fat chick by your buddies, lol...  Those gals kits can make better modelers out of anyone who jumps in and grabs onto 'em with both hands, lol... 

 

 

The real drawback with the old kits is the raised as opposed to recessed panel lines.

 

Its a lot easier to get a realistic look with recesed lines, teh raised kind take more work.

be that as it may, I prefer the older kits, cheaper, far more bang to the buck and a challenge as opposed to teh high tech and high priced stuff I see so much of these days.

rjkplasticmod

Nice work on the Golden Oldie.  Well done.

Regards,  Rick

As long as we have Ebay, my hobby lives on.

Sparrowhyperion

Yeh the older kits are great  The thing I love most about modeling is the incredible feeling of accomplishment you get when you take  a bunch of plastic parts and then after building it, look at the work of art you have created.  There's nothing like it.  The newer stuff is great too, but I kind of like just sitting down with a kit, some glue, sandpaper, an xacto knife, and a pair of wire cutters. :)

Rich

I'm the same.

I look at the tooling on some new kits and think 'how could you miss with that?'

But these old gals, well, you have to treat em like ladies otherwise they end up looking like crap.

Yup.  Most of my stash (if you want to call it that.) consists of older Revell/Monogram kits with a smattering MPC and ERTL.  Much more challenging.  I really have to take my time with them which is good because that's something I have in abundance. :)

Chris FFZ

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

Yeh the older kits are great  The thing I love most about modeling is the incredible feeling of accomplishment you get when you take  a bunch of plastic parts and then after building it, look at the work of art you have created.  There's nothing like it.  The newer stuff is great too, but I kind of like just sitting down with a kit, some glue, sandpaper, an xacto knife, and a pair of wire cutters. :)

Rich

 

I'm the same.

I look at the tooling on some new kits and think 'how could you miss with that?'

But these old gals, well, you have to treat em like ladies otherwise they end up looking like crap.

 

 

The real drawback with the old kits is the raised as opposed to recessed panel lines.

 

Its a lot easier to get a realistic look with recesed lines, teh raised kind take more work.

I don't see those raised lines as a drawback, but rather they're simply a location guide for placing the proper engraved lines... I've seen a couple handfuls of kits in 40+ years of modeling with recessed lines that would make my  "realistic" list, but that's about it.. Most, and I mean in the neighorhood of 70%+, aren't even close... If the lines were scaled up and that big on the prototypes, you'd see daylight through 'em....  And that's provided that there were supposed to be lines there in the first place.. I've seen a fair number of kits with the "realistic" panel lines in places that no panel-joints even existed on the 1/1 scale...

Frankly, the "engraved vs raised panel lines" is an old, old, debate, and one that usually means nothing in the end, since neither way is all that accurate on many of them, especially Pre- and early WW2 aircraft, since most of those had overlapping panels and flush rivets were yet to come...  However, I'm not a rivet-counter, so raised or engraved, it really doesn't matter to me...  

No one has ever lost a contest (at least none I've ever judged) because they built a kit with raised lines vs the same aircraft-type with engraved lines... They lost because they got beat by someone with better modeling skills and who paid attention to details like fingerprints, smudges, sand-scratches, seams, paint-sags, runs, pebbling, overspray, etc... 

I've lost a lot of times, but never once because I used an old kit with raised lines, but because I did a sloppy job, lol...  Nothing like that flawless finish on a beautifully pastel-weathered Spitfire, only to see, at the very last second, that HUGE burnt-umber fingerprint on the canopy...

The amount of detail and eye-candy that goes into "modern" kits (at prices that reflect it) is rather disappointing to me, since I used to clean up at some contests back in the day with the amount of scratch-building I did... "Average" modelers didn't fair well in those days, since there were no "after-market" goodies to buy (or VERY few), and they never took the time to learn how to make what was needed... The SOBs (Straight Outta Box) were tough contests then too...  Kinda tough to do those anymore, since far too many kit contain the detail sets one used to have to make yourself...  Nowadays, it's "buy a high-end kit, buy a boat-load of high-end AM stuff, then glue it all on and be declared  a Master Modeler" kinda thing...

Dunno how the above Spitfire would fair in the SOB category against the Tamiya Spitfire, but to take a SWAG at it, the Revell Spit would likely fall short with the judges, even with all skill-sets being equal... There's that "Scope of Effort" thing to consider, y'know, and Tamiya's Spit has way more to offer in the "Fiddly Bits" category...That is, unless I'm the one judging them, lol... Then you get 10 points just for using the Revell Spit, lol...

Call it "Handicapping", lol..

Seriously though, I'll hunt down the old kits all day long rather than buy the new stuff, unless there's a subject that I simply MUST have...

Then I'll just bite the bullet and shell out as much as 30.00 for a 1/32 kit... Maybe even, now get rhis: Thirty-five...

Dollars...  US Dollars too...

I know.. Pretty Wild & Crazy, huh?

I like the way you think.  I have no allusions as to the level of my skills right now.  I'm still getting back into practice and rehabilitating.  I will probably never gain back what I lost in precision coordination and steady hands, but I hope to get at least close.  But even with my current limitations I prefer to at least TRY to build anything I can from scratch or cannibalize dead kit parts. 

The AM stuff is great for ultra detail and accuracy, but...  It also seems to take something away from the mix.   I suppose that these days a lot of people don't have the time and/or patience for scratch, but I think that if it is done right, it can match or surpass any of the AM equivalents. 

And there is the cost factor as well.  I simply refuse to pay more fora couple of seats or some flaps or even cockpit pieces, than I did for the kit it's going on.  As for kits that include PE parts etc.  I have a couple.  My current long term "A few minutes a day" project is the Dragon 1/48 P51D.  It has a few PE parts including the Air intake screen, cockpit seat straps, and instrument panel overlay.  They are pretty, but I use them in combination with some scratch for extra detail. 

I build for fun and my own satisfaction.  My recent builds are not in my opinion, good enough for public display btu to me they represent some progress in regaining my skills.  PE parts, Resin etc.  Can add to the basics, but I think I will always want to add at least some custom stuff.

As far as panel lines go..  I am definitely not a rivet counter.  If it looks good from 5-10 feet away, then I am happy no matter what kind of panel lines.  With my current Dragon kit, I am debating filling and re-scribing the panel lines, but only because they are so thick.  But that would be a major project for me so I have to decide if it is worth it. (I never will understand why they make them so thick..)

In conclusion I say.

1.  Model for your own enjoyment.

2.  Don't sweat the details (see above).

4.  HAVE FUN!

That's all that matters.

Rich

Hans von Hammer

 

The real drawback with the old kits is the raised as opposed to recessed panel lines.

 

 

Its a lot easier to get a realistic look with recesed lines, teh raised kind take more work.

 

I don't see those raised lines as a drawback, but rather they're simply a location guide for placing the proper engraved lines... I've seen a couple handfuls of kits in 40+ years of modeling with recessed lines that would make my  "realistic" list, but that's about it.. Most, and I mean in the neighorhood of 70%+, aren't even close... If the lines were scaled up and that big on the prototypes, you'd see daylight through 'em....  And that's provided that there were supposed to be lines there in the first place.. I've seen a fair number of kits with the "realistic" panel lines in places that no panel-joints even existed on the 1/1 scale...

Frankly, the "engraved vs raised panel lines" is an old, old, debate, and one that usually means nothing in the end, since neither way is all that accurate on many of them, especially Pre- and early WW2 aircraft, since most of those had overlapping panels and flush rivets were yet to come...  However, I'm not a rivet-counter, so raised or engraved, it really doesn't matter to me...  

No one has ever lost a contest (at least none I've ever judged) because they built a kit with raised lines vs the same aircraft-type with engraved lines... They lost because they got beat by someone with better modeling skills and who paid attention to details like fingerprints, smudges, sand-scratches, seams, paint-sags, runs, pebbling, overspray, etc... 

I've lost a lot of times, but never once because I used an old kit with raised lines, but because I did a sloppy job, lol...  Nothing like that flawless finish on a beautifully pastel-weathered Spitfire, only to see, at the very last second, that HUGE burnt-umber fingerprint on the canopy...

The amount of detail and eye-candy that goes into "modern" kits (at prices that reflect it) is rather disappointing to me, since I used to clean up at some contests back in the day with the amount of scratch-building I did... "Average" modelers didn't fair well in those days, since there were no "after-market" goodies to buy (or VERY few), and they never took the time to learn how to make what was needed... The SOBs (Straight Outta Box) were tough contests then too...  Kinda tough to do those anymore, since far too many kit contain the detail sets one used to have to make yourself...  Nowadays, it's "buy a high-end kit, buy a boat-load of high-end AM stuff, then glue it all on and be declared  a Master Modeler" kinda thing...

 

Dunno how the above Spitfire would fair in the SOB category against the Tamiya Spitfire, but to take a SWAG at it, the Revell Spit would likely fall short with the judges, even with all skill-sets being equal... There's that "Scope of Effort" thing to consider, y'know, and Tamiya's Spit has way more to offer in the "Fiddly Bits" category...That is, unless I'm the one judging them, lol... Then you get 10 points just for using the Revell Spit, lol...

Call it "Handicapping", lol..

Seriously though, I'll hunt down the old kits all day long rather than buy the new stuff, unless there's a subject that I simply MUST have...

Then I'll just bite the bullet and shell out as much as 30.00 for a 1/32 kit... Maybe even, now get rhis: Thirty-five...

Dollars...  US Dollars too...

I know.. Pretty Wild & Crazy, huh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chris FFZ

Hans von Hammer:

...a dino of a kit but fun to build.

You say that like it's a bad  thing, lol... Makes it sound kinda like you got caught "dancing" with a fat chick by your buddies, lol...  Those gals kits can make better modelers out of anyone who jumps in and grabs onto 'em with both hands, lol... 

 

 

The real drawback with the old kits is the raised as opposed to recessed panel lines.

Its a lot easier to get a realistic look with recesed lines, teh raised kind take more work.

be that as it may, I prefer the older kits, cheaper, far more bang to the buck and a challenge as opposed to teh high tech and high priced stuff I see so much of these days.

I am building this kit (slowly) right now myself. Just adding detail to various areas as I go along. But this kit does have raised and recessed details. When I compared that to my references Revell got that right back in the 60s when they designed this kit.  Ya gotta give credit where credit is due

I like many of the old kits very much.  I only work in 1:72, but I remember having the 1:32 Spitfire (and Messerschmitt and P-40) when Revell first released them back in the '60's, then again in the '70's when they were reboxed.  I thought they were spiffy kits back then--and they probably were.  These days I am partial to Airfix, and their 1:72 oldies.  Airfix has two Hurricanes out, for example, one of them top-heavy with rivets and one with raised, but restrained, panel lines.  But both of them have their pluses.  I finished them both in the recent Battle of Britain group build.  I simply like to build what catches my attention at the moment.

Anyhow, your Spitfire is very appealing.  Will look forward to seeing more of your work.

This is a cool kit. I want to add this one to my collection. Nice job.

Sparrowhyperion

Yup.  Most of my stash (if you want to call it that.) consists of older Revell/Monogram kits with a smattering MPC and ERTL.  Much more challenging.  I really have to take my time with them which is good because that's something I have in abundance. :)

I love Monogram kits, and the old revells too.

But don't forget Airfix/MPC, they are fun and challenging too!

Hans von Hammer

I don't see those raised lines as a drawback, but rather they're simply a location guide for placing the proper engraved lines... I've seen a couple handfuls of kits in 40+ years of modeling with recessed lines that would make my  "realistic" list, but that's about it.. Most, and I mean in the neighorhood of 70%+, aren't even close... If the lines were scaled up and that big on the prototypes, you'd see daylight through 'em....  And that's provided that there were supposed to be lines there in the first place.. I've seen a fair number of kits with the "realistic" panel lines in places that no panel-joints even existed on the 1/1 scale...

Frankly, the "engraved vs raised panel lines" is an old, old, debate, and one that usually means nothing in the end, since neither way is all that accurate on many of them, especially Pre- and early WW2 aircraft, since most of those had overlapping panels and flush rivets were yet to come...  However, I'm not a rivet-counter, so raised or engraved, it really doesn't matter to me...  

No one has ever lost a contest (at least none I've ever judged) because they built a kit with raised lines vs the same aircraft-type with engraved lines... They lost because they got beat by someone with better modeling skills and who paid attention to details like fingerprints, smudges, sand-scratches, seams, paint-sags, runs, pebbling, overspray, etc... 

I've lost a lot of times, but never once because I used an old kit with raised lines, but because I did a sloppy job, lol...  Nothing like that flawless finish on a beautifully pastel-weathered Spitfire, only to see, at the very last second, that HUGE burnt-umber fingerprint on the canopy...

The amount of detail and eye-candy that goes into "modern" kits (at prices that reflect it) is rather disappointing to me, since I used to clean up at some contests back in the day with the amount of scratch-building I did... "Average" modelers didn't fair well in those days, since there were no "after-market" goodies to buy (or VERY few), and they never took the time to learn how to make what was needed... The SOBs (Straight Outta Box) were tough contests then too...  Kinda tough to do those anymore, since far too many kit contain the detail sets one used to have to make yourself...  Nowadays, it's "buy a high-end kit, buy a boat-load of high-end AM stuff, then glue it all on and be declared  a Master Modeler" kinda thing...

 

Dunno how the above Spitfire would fair in the SOB category against the Tamiya Spitfire, but to take a SWAG at it, the Revell Spit would likely fall short with the judges, even with all skill-sets being equal... There's that "Scope of Effort" thing to consider, y'know, and Tamiya's Spit has way more to offer in the "Fiddly Bits" category...That is, unless I'm the one judging them, lol... Then you get 10 points just for using the Revell Spit, lol...

Call it "Handicapping", lol..

Seriously though, I'll hunt down the old kits all day long rather than buy the new stuff, unless there's a subject that I simply MUST have...

Then I'll just bite the bullet and shell out as much as 30.00 for a 1/32 kit... Maybe even, now get rhis: Thirty-five...

Dollars...  US Dollars too...

I know.. Pretty Wild & Crazy, huh?

Just how it looks.

I would never put something i made in a contest, I make em for relaxation and to share my love of history, besides I'd probaly lose!

Seriously though, I'm happy some of us love the old stuff, such wonderful treasures to rediscover out there.

stikpusher

I am building this kit (slowly) right now myself. Just adding detail to various areas as I go along. But this kit does have raised and recessed details. When I compared that to my references Revell got that right back in the 60s when they designed this kit.  Ya gotta give credit where credit is due

The big problem with it is the canopy doesn't fit correctly (this is an issue with many revell 1/32 planes of this era) and there is an insertion pin in front that show even if you shave it down.

My english spitfire happy friends have told me the nose is slightly off as well, but I'm not that technical.

I looked at the 1/32 Revell Spit Mk1 in my stash, there are recessed panel lines. This is an ebay score as well kit # H-282 ,end opening box with pix of the model on one side and the great painting on the front ,DWOK decals. The one shown here is ,I believe , a combination of two moulds .There should be recessed plines on the fuse and raised on the wing.Someone more informed as to the lineage of these kits may know more. As you may know the Revell 1/32 Hurricane Mk1 recent re-box is actually the Mk2 wing.Nice job on the classic kit .

checkmateking02

I like many of the old kits very much.  I only work in 1:72, but I remember having the 1:32 Spitfire (and Messerschmitt and P-40) when Revell first released them back in the '60's, then again in the '70's when they were reboxed.  I thought they were spiffy kits back then--and they probably were.  These days I am partial to Airfix, and their 1:72 oldies.  Airfix has two Hurricanes out, for example, one of them top-heavy with rivets and one with raised, but restrained, panel lines.  But both of them have their pluses.  I finished them both in the recent Battle of Britain group build.  I simply like to build what catches my attention at the moment.

Anyhow, your Spitfire is very appealing.  Will look forward to seeing more of your work.

I'm an Airfix fan, they get a lot of static but were pioneers in so many types of kits, and with a littlle effort they look great. the new Airfix kits are right there with the asian companies at a lot lower prices.

spiralcity

This is a cool kit. I want to add this one to my collection. Nice job.

krow113

I looked at the 1/32 Revell Spit Mk1 in my stash, there are recessed panel lines. This is an ebay score as well kit # H-282 ,end opening box with pix of the model on one side and the great painting on the front ,DWOK decals. The one shown here is ,I believe , a combination of two moulds .There should be recessed plines on the fuse and raised on the wing.Someone more informed as to the lineage of these kits may know more. As you may know the Revell 1/32 Hurricane Mk1 recent re-box is actually the Mk2 wing.Nice job on the classic kit .

It does on this old one, I just didn't take a photo 'wheels up' because of memory card issues (waiting for it, my camera only holds 4 pictures without it).

Yes . Wheels ,control surfaces work , light blue plastic.The one you built is a re-issue combination of Hasegawa Mk 5 and the old kit..I think mine is the original issue kit .It is very nice work with raised rivits and recessed panel lines. This point came up before,at a meeting and I was looked at like I was nuts! I have the kit in front of me ,my camera battery is dead ,later I will post a pic. There are guys on here who live for these old kits so we should hear from them.

Yup.  MPC, ERTL and I think I had 1 airfix kit of some weird starship thingie.  It broke down into threee pieces.  I also had a bunch of the old Glencoe and the Lindberg space series.  I loved those.  My first spacecraft was the Space Station they had.  The one with solar panels that looked like a big round rain gutter. lol.  I even had one of those weird looking Godzilla models with the glow in the dark hands spine and head.  That one would have been cooler if it was all glow in the dark.

Chris FFZ

 

Sparrowhyperion:

 

Yup.  Most of my stash (if you want to call it that.) consists of older Revell/Monogram kits with a smattering MPC and ERTL.  Much more challenging.  I really have to take my time with them which is good because that's something I have in abundance. :)

 

I love Monogram kits, and the old revells too.

But don't forget Airfix/MPC, they are fun and challenging too!

Sparrowhyperion

Yup.  MPC, ERTL and I think I had 1 airfix kit of some weird starship thingie.  It broke down into threee pieces.  I also had a bunch of the old Glencoe and the Lindberg space series.  I loved those.  My first spacecraft was the Space Station they had.  The one with solar panels that looked like a big round rain gutter. lol.  I even had one of those weird looking Godzilla models with the glow in the dark hands spine and head.  That one would have been cooler if it was all glow in the dark.

The airfix thing I recall seeing in a catalog.

It was VERY annoying the Godzilla did not completly glow!

krow113

Yes . Wheels ,control surfaces work , light blue plastic.The one you built is a re-issue combination of Hasegawa Mk 5 and the old kit..I think mine is the original issue kit .It is very nice work with raised rivits and recessed panel lines. This point came up before,at a meeting and I was looked at like I was nuts! I have the kit in front of me ,my camera battery is dead ,later I will post a pic. There are guys on here who live for these old kits so we should hear from them.