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F-4 Phantom ideas please!!

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F-4 Phantom ideas please!!
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:07 PM
I would like to add a 1/48 F-4 Phantom to my collection, but I would like to do something other than a grey paint scheme. Something adveserial or cammo of some kind. Anyone seen any good paint schemes that would stand out from all the grey fighters on my shelf?

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Posted by gregers on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:11 PM
Hi Jake. you could try an Isreali F4E. the ones with the shark mouth look great. or a Royal Navy F4K. i will post some links or pics if i can find them.
Greg
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Posted by gregers on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:19 PM


hope these help.
Greg
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:30 PM
That Isriali one looks like a good one. I'll add that to my list of "maybes'".
Thanks for the pic Gregers. Every little bit helps.

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Posted by Jeff Herne on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:31 PM
Germany has some very attractive F-4s in splinter patterns.

You could always do the Black Bunny F-4...

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Posted by jimz66 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:33 PM
Jake, the F-4 is my favorite aircraft ever. GOOD CHOICE. The F-4's in USAF service wore many different coats of paint. Three schemes that come to mind are the SEA scheme that had Light Gray (36622) underneath with Dark Tan (30219) Dark. Green (34079) and Medium Green (34102). The second scheme you can do is the Wraparound scheme, it is essentially the same as the SEA scheme but without the light gray underneath. Then the third variation of that scheme is the European One scheme which replaces the Dark Tan with a very Dark Gray (36081).

Several foriegn countries used the SEA scheme as well, Australia, Turkey, and I think one or two more. Check out some of Japans and Germany's as well as Iranian F-4's the Israel suggestion above is also a very good choice. Good Luck.
Remember between the USN, USMC and USAF there were over ten variants of the F-4. So there is plenty to choose from.
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Posted by stoomfluit on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:40 PM
I've seen a picture of a completely red F-4 once. It was a QF-4n of the Naval Missile Center at Point Mugu. It certainly wasn't dull and gray!
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 4:03 PM


And here's that NMC Phantom:



Here's the same bird with some Vandies from VX-4, including Vandy One.




VX-4 had one of the most colorful Phantoms ever; here's their bicentennial bird:








Here's an aforementioned Israeli jet:




The Brits had some color too, here's a 56 Sqn FGR.2:



And this one from 74 'Tiger' Sqn, painted up with the squadron namesake:




And then there's our pals of the JASDF. THESE guys have some of the wildest schemes around.





Hope that'll give 'ya something to ponder over!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 5:46 PM
Hey, thanks everybody!! I had no idea that F-4 came in so many colours. I think I like the Israeli one best. Anyone got any more photos'?
I would really appreciate it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:00 PM
I still like the paintjob that the F4-G Wild Weasel had,
pity that the 1/48 scale kit of it has been OOP for many years now.

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:23 PM
If Israeli Phantoms are for you, check out the Israeli Air Force Website. This is the official site of the IAF and has some really groovy shots of F-4's. Click on 'Gallery' and then on 'Plane Gallery'. Then scroll over to the right until you see 'Phantom'. There's 12 photos.

You can also check out The Israeli Air Force - IDF/AF. This is a non official site which has alotta images of various IAF aircraft. There's at least 21 F-4 images on this site, (including several of RF-4E's) although several of them are either REALLY small or bad quality or both. But there are some keepers. Just scroll down to 'The Gallery' and then down to all the F-4 stuff. There's also some other interesting stuff on this site, just grunge around.

There's more out there, just do an image search on Google or whatever search engine you like and look for Israeli F-4, F-4 Israel etc. Mix up the search terms and see what you get.


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:19 PM
Hey Blackwolf, you always have these fantastic pics of great birds.....do you have a secret stash, or do you just do a google, and that's what you come up with....and where'd ya get the badge buddy??!! Did Shrikes make it?? I thought he was supposed to hand those babies out soon!!
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Posted by jimz66 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:21 PM
This website seams to be unable to load on my machine, is a bad link?

Blackwolf what site did you get those photos from?
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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:22 PM
blackwolf you make me want to build a modern a/c. dont know where you get all the photos but i would love to thumb through them. i bet you have enough several model clubs could build one per person per month and they would not build all the a/c represented. awesome.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 7:27 PM
The RAF 111 sqn had a gloss black F-4 with squadron thunderbolts down both sides that I think hasegawa brought out in 48th as a limited edition. Alternatively, in the Israeli line Isra decals do some colourful decals in 48th for their latest and most advanced Phantom, the F-4 `Kurnass`. If memory serves the Kurnass in model form is an F-4E with minor mods, the actual jet has Israeli electronics. Isra Decals are on the web. I typed in `Israeli Air Force` for another project and,happily, found more than I expected or needed.
aeroflight.co.uk has a great deal of background info on Israeli units etc but the Phantom imagery was not on my list at the time, sorry. I did find the official IAF page surprisingly frank in showing F-15 images, maybe it`s the same for Phantoms.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 8:31 PM
Geez guys... shucks! Blush [:I]

Yes I have a HUGE collection of images. I usually grab stuff off the net when I see it. I also save the URL's to an organized system of database files in case I need to go back to a site. It's a much more flexible system than saving faves on your internet browser and, besides, I found out real quick that AOL's favorites storage has a limit of 2500 addresses. LMAO

Anyhoo, I draw all this stuff that I post from either images I find on the net, stuff I've scanned, (30,000+ images on the hard drive now) or from my hardcopy library or my files.

Over the last twenty years I've managed to amass a sizable collection of books, rags and original photographs. The books sometimes get scanned then sold, and the rags either get scanned or clipped and sold/tossed. At one point I had fifty zerox boxes full of rags and it got to be a bit much, so that's why I decided to cut 'em up or scan 'em then ditch 'em.

And if I don't have it on the drive or on the shelves or in the cabinets, I've become quite familiar with much of what's available on the net and usually know where to go to get info/images. And if I don't know off the top of my head, I just Google it.


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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 8:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jimz66

This website seams to be unable to load on my machine, is a bad link?

Blackwolf what site did you get those photos from?


Jim, which site are you talking about? The official IAF site? It does load slowly sometimes, even with a cable connection.

As to the images I posted above, they came from various sources. Despite the database system I mentioned, I don't always keep careful track of where I grab stuff from. If I see it and like it, I grab it. If it's a site that has alotta stuff, I'll save the URL. But if it's a single page with a few images I usually don't bother.

So I dunno where most of those came from off the top of my head. But if memory serves, some of the USN (the NMC & VX-4 jets) came from the Boeing website. Not totally sure on that though...


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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 8:38 PM
Originally posted by BlackWolf3945

30,000+ images on the hard drive now


wow. now that is a collection. i repeat i would love to thumb through your collection.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 9:09 PM
How about the old F4 Thunderbird scheme? Thats pretty colorful
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 9:11 PM
D'OH! How could we forget? Tongue [:P] Those were nice lookin' jets...


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Posted by jimz66 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 9:15 PM
Dont forget those Blues either. I know what you mean Blackwolfe I get mine everywhere too. Don't feel bad. Thanks for sharing those nice images. As for the site I could not get through any of the links. They never worked. I'll try again latter.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 10:33 PM
Hey Blackwolf,

Thanks for the link to the Israeli Airforce Website..I found some good F-4 photos like you said. I also found some Skyhawk and Apachi photos for my file collection. Although I am just getting started saving referance materials (only a couple hundred mags, photos, books etc) I hope to one day get much more as I realize as you have that a good referance library can make all the differance when enjoying a new model.
Thanks again,
Jake
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 10:59 PM
Hey, buy the way,
I don't suppose there are any adveserial F-4's in blues and grey???

Jake
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 2:32 AM
here is some website to choose.........
http://www.tomcattersassociation.org/F4/images/f4snatgd.htm
http://koti.welho.com/msolanak/f4.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 12:25 PM
Thanks Delta Dagger.
Some usefull pics' there

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Thursday, March 4, 2004 2:11 PM
There are a whole plethora of F-4 schemes. ranging from the esoteric to the gaudy. Some of my favorites are the US bicentennial and the German "specials". I have seen a picture of one that was painted in a black and yellow "bumblebee" stripe scheme that wasn't to different from the UKs target tug. Some of the best schemes are from the USN when "hi-viz" was in. There are a lot of choices out there and I don't envy you trying to choose one. Please post some pics when you get her finished.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, March 4, 2004 3:14 PM
Hey Jake,

Had another thought.

Check out airliners.net. Don't let the name fool you. I was turned on to this site when I first got on the net and it's become one of my prime go-to's for modern military aircraft. I did a search on 'Phantom' ('F-4' yielded no hits!) and came up with 800+ results. May take a while to go through, but it's usually worth it.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 3:59 PM
Holy Phantom photos' Blackwolf !!!
I'm diggn' it.
Back in a few days when I finish looking through them all!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:59 PM
your welcome. by the way blackwolf thanks for the nice site!
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Friday, March 5, 2004 2:53 AM
How about this one?

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