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WIP Monogram 1:32 F-4 Phantom II Wild Weasel

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  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Monday, September 21, 2015 2:56 PM

plasticjunkie

Let me throw my take on pre shading. There was a discussion on this method on another thread and some of the responses given was that real planes don't have pre shade lines painted and therefore they are unrealistic. Of course real planes don't have pre shade lines painted on, that is not the idea or the answer. The idea behind the pre shading is to fool the human eye into seeing those subtle differences on the surface of the model, and to break up monotone colors to add interest. Pre shading, IMO  has to be very subtle and to just give a hint of texture and color varience. This can also be accomplished by doing post shading, which is spraying a lighter version of the base coat on the panel centers.

I do not pre shade all models so it's a matter of taste, and time spent. I like to shoot gloss black because it tends to flow better than flat colors, diluted 40-50%. I use enamels so I set my Badger Renegade that has a xtra fine tip to shoot at about 5-10 psi. Once I have the job completed, I spray very thin coats of what ever color the scheme takes, over the entire plane but making certain that I do not completely cover the pre shading. Then I go back to each individul panel and begin to lay a heavier coat from the center out and making sure that the preshade is visible as a subtle shadow.

Here is a 1/72 scale F-4J with raised lines which will benefit from the pre shading.

Notice how the pre shading helps to break up the monotone grey and white scheme and adds some interest and texture to the scheme.

SEA schemes are hard to pre shade cause the top coat colors are dark and can easily overtake the pre shade effect so it just takes a bit more AB time to get it right. I see pre shading as the DOT filter method, where the oil paint is wiped off about 98% or so, just leaving a hint.

Toshi this is a little more complex painting method but with some practise anyone can do it.

 

Thank you sir for the deffinition as well as your build.  By the way, your phantom looks great.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:15 AM

Here is what was done last night, please note that my iPhone camera is acting up, hence the odd discoloration.  It looks like the dark grey is black and the light grey is white.  

Putting that aside, this is the biggest model I've ever assembled.  It looks really cool yet, I don't know where to put it except to hang it up.

Toshi

 

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:43 AM

I'm in the end zone goal scrimmage line, on a 4th and 1, ready to get the touchdown.  Football vernacular.  Once I place the decals on, I'll seal everything in and look for another condo to display this monstrosity.  Yes, it's that big!  

Actually, Mrs. Toshi said to hang it up.  I originally shot the phantom in grey hues, it just did not speak out to me.  I even went for the mono standard grey format and I still, I was not pleased by the outcome.  As you all will know, by this point in the build I must have gone through a gallon worth of paint, at least that was what it felt like.  So the 3rd. coat had to be my last decision.  My next step is the decals and the final matte spray to seal everything in.

Please view the photos below for my update.  Thank you fellow forum members.

Toshi

 

 

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2015
  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:55 AM
Moving right along with that big fella..I like the wrap around sea camo.I remember seeing them at Homestesd AB in the 78

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:30 AM

Really nice job on this big beauty Toshi.  If I ever build a 1/32 kit ,this is going to be the one, thanks to your inspirational posts.

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Cavite, Philippines
Posted by allan on Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:09 PM

Keep the pics coming Toshi. :)

 

on a side note, you may want to check on those sparrows. I think weasel Phantoms didn't carry air-to-air weapons.

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  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, September 25, 2015 7:28 AM

crown r n7
Moving right along with that big fella..I like the wrap around sea camo.I remember seeing them at Homestesd AB in the 78
 

Thank you sir, I too like the camouflage depiction.  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, September 25, 2015 7:30 AM

Jay Jay

Really nice job on this big beauty Toshi.  If I ever build a 1/32 kit ,this is going to be the one, thanks to your inspirational posts.

 

It's no problem at all, always a pleasure sir!  Make sure you find a garage to display this huge beast.  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, September 25, 2015 7:33 AM

allan

Keep the pics coming Toshi. :)

 

on a side note, you may want to check on those sparrows. I think weasel Phantoms didn't carry air-to-air weapons.

 

Thank you sir, I will.  So far I have the last of the decals on and now I'm awaiting to spray a sealer on this gigantic bird.  LOL.

Sorry about the sparrows, I just wanted to load as much ordinance on the F4G as much as possible.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 25, 2015 7:58 AM

You are making some seroius progress! Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, September 25, 2015 1:09 PM

Gamera

You are making some seroius progress! Wink

 

Thanks to the many forum members insight and experience like you, I am able to move forward with any build I choose to do.  If I'm stuck, I'm not discouraged or upset, I'll just ask a few questions on this forum and in minutes I'll get several replies in how to fix any issues.  I'm not afraid to do things anymore.  The FSM family members of this community are always there!  Thank you for the read and reply!

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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