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1/48 Revell Early B-17G Flying Fortress COMPLETED !!!

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:38 PM

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Brandon,  Great job!  I wanted to know what type of yellow you used and how well it painted over the ACLAD?  I am doing a Revell P47, just shot the ACLAD, and will be to the point to put the yellow on the tail and wing tips. Your yellow and OD looks so nice, flat and even, I hope to get a simular result.

 

I cheated on the yellow. I did not paint those areas with Alclad, but since you have I know it covers just fine over it. I painted the left wing where it is chipped right over the Alclad and it covers fine. Works great for chipping. 

Anyway the color is Tamiya XF-4 yellow/green. The XF-3 yellow is just too bright and the yellow/green came out just right. I did prime those areas with Tamiya White primer because yellow is so tranparent. It took several (4-5) light coats to get total coverage. Glad I used it instead. I thinned those with Tamiya thinner about 50% when I sprayed them. Tamiya paint is pretty easy to work with.

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Posted by scottrc on Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:38 AM

Brandon,  Great job!  I wanted to know what type of yellow you used and how well it painted over the ACLAD?  I am doing a Revell P47, just shot the ACLAD, and will be to the point to put the yellow on the tail and wing tips. Your yellow and OD looks so nice, flat and even, I hope to get a simular result.

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Posted by Nezih Icoz on Friday, December 11, 2015 4:20 PM

BrandonK

I started some decaling today and couldn't resist a light assemble to see it together. Nothing is attached, it's just resting there. Loving how she is coming along.

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Posted by Nezih Icoz on Friday, December 11, 2015 4:14 PM

BrandonK
 

Thanks. Yes the surface is very big and takes a lot of paint and gives you plenty of room for mistakes, as I've shown. Your painting looks really cool. It would look really good right above Miss Lace sitting in my collection. 

 

BK

 

Thx Brandon, I am glad that you liked it and i'll get contact you when i'll finish it but surely I can't finish it before you complete this model :) 

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 11:49 AM

I started some decaling today and couldn't resist a light assemble to see it together. Nothing is attached, it's just resting there. Loving how she is coming along.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:16 AM

Thanks Gamera. Ya, I am really pleased I was able to save it. It's not perfect, but she saw lots of action and should be shown as such.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:15 AM

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Beautiful paint job!  You're doing an amazing job on this build interior as well as exterior.

Toshi

 

Thanks Toshi. Wait till you see the one I am getting ready to start. It's gonna blow your mind.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:15 AM

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Awesome save on the paint work. It looks really good to me, and your chipping on the wing looks great. I can't wait to see the next update. Nezih, I'm in awe of your painting skills. I'd love to see a picture of that when it's completed.
 

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to notice.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:14 AM

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Looking at it now I can see no place that shows the issues you had.  Great save.

 

 

 

Joe

 

Thanks Joe.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:14 AM

echolmberg

This kit is just coming along great in spite of the painting setback.  I've always loved the big B-17 by Monogram.  A true classic!  I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on this build.

I know this might be a moot point by now but for future reference (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), I think the bomb bay area of the B-17 was actually left silver.  I don't know if it received a silver anti-corrosion coat or if it was just left as a natural metal but I don't think it was given an interior green finish.

Eric

 

I've heard that also, but I have photos that show it both ways. IPMS says they were largely left bare, but some Camo aircraft had them painted NG. Since it was getting lost forever once closed I really didn't care on this one. I even considered not installing any of the bomb bay parts but they are integral to the kit so I slapped  some color on and put them in. My next one will be open bay and will be left NMF per the correct way of showing it. Thanks for the replay.

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, December 11, 2015 9:09 AM

Nezih Icoz

Wow it is very impressive model,Sir. Congratulations. I have a few B-17 models in my stash but they are 1/72 scale kits. I have no enough courage for starting 1/48 scale B-17 Huh? But your model is extra exiting for me because, It is a good coincidence that you are building "A bit-o-lace", I am woking on its painting now. Best wishes 

Nezih.

 

Thanks. Yes the surface is very big and takes a lot of paint and gives you plenty of room for mistakes, as I've shown. Your painting looks really cool. It would look really good right above Miss Lace sitting in my collection. 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 11, 2015 8:01 AM

Brandon, the repairs look great, I'd never have suspected the problems you had from what you have now. 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, December 11, 2015 7:22 AM

Beautiful paint job!  You're doing an amazing job on this build interior as well as exterior.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:18 PM
Awesome save on the paint work. It looks really good to me, and your chipping on the wing looks great. I can't wait to see the next update. Nezih, I'm in awe of your painting skills. I'd love to see a picture of that when it's completed.

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Posted by Nezih Icoz on Thursday, December 10, 2015 4:56 PM

Wow it is very impressive model,Sir. Congratulations. I have a few B-17 models in my stash but they are 1/72 scale kits. I have no enough courage for starting 1/48 scale B-17 Huh? But your model is extra exiting for me because, It is a good coincidence that you are building "A bit-o-lace", I am woking on its painting now. Best wishes 

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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:42 PM

This kit is just coming along great in spite of the painting setback.  I've always loved the big B-17 by Monogram.  A true classic!  I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on this build.

I know this might be a moot point by now but for future reference (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), I think the bomb bay area of the B-17 was actually left silver.  I don't know if it received a silver anti-corrosion coat or if it was just left as a natural metal but I don't think it was given an interior green finish.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:00 PM

Looking at it now I can see no place that shows the issues you had.  Great save.

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:48 PM

The fuselage repaint went well and is now complete. I am keeping the tape away from the kit as I don't need anymore problems. 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:36 AM

WOW What a save !  looking REAL good. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:31 AM

Well I have completed the repaint of the wings and they look much better. I need to complete the chipping on the lower NG portion, but overall I can live with the NMF on the wings now. As long as I don't mask them I should be fine.

I will re-spray/overspray the fuselage today as it only need some small bits here and there. Once that is complete I should be close to decals.

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:57 AM

lawdog114
It's their Black Primer....it sucks. Use the Grey. It's much better I've been using it for years...
 

Thanks Joe, that appears to be the concensous and also falls in line with what I've been reading elsewhere about it.

I've completed the color painting and have resprayed the wings in Tamiya semi-gloss black to match the tone of the primer so I can get a close match overall. I'll be re-shooting the Alclad over the wings today and hopefully it will look good.

Thanks again,

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Posted by TigerII on Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:44 AM

This is an excellent kit. I built it for my grandson, although I didn't do all the extra interior painting and detailing. I did give it a green exterior, which came out pretty nice and it made the Reader's Gallery of FineScale website, for February 2015. I just wasn't doing the silver look to it. But your build is coming along quite nicely. Keep up the great work and can't wait to see the finished model.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:28 AM
It's their Black Primer....it sucks. Use the Grey. It's much better I've been using it for years...

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 7:22 AM

Looks like you are making a complete recovery and is looking very good. The Alclad is relatively easy to touch up in the damaged areas.

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:59 PM

Okay, I've been hard at it today. I masked and painted the yellow and OD portions of the plane as they appear in this post war photo. The plane received extensive damage during combat and was repaired using large parts of a donor plane. So, the colors are a hodge podge. They also attempted to remove the OD from the upper left wing. I tried to replicate the chipping on that wing. The lower portion was NG and I don't have any good photos so I am assuming they left it mostly alone since it blended with the NMF better. 

I also applied the NG under the left wing and the black stripe. I still have to do the right wing upper with the black stripe and both OG fuselage stripes. I will tackle those tomorrow. I also need to apply the anti-glare to the engine nacels. Once this is done I will tackle repairing the Alclad. I hope it works.

BK

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:38 PM

infofrog
Not trying to change subject . If you sand surface to smooth . Will this cause issue ? Paint not bonding to surface ? To slick Thanks Rick
 

Actually when using Alclad high shine paints, the surface has to be ultra smooth to get the best reflection and metal look/tone effect. Polishing prior to Alclad is good too.

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Posted by infofrog on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 11:16 AM
Not trying to change subject . If you sand surface to smooth . Will this cause issue ? Paint not bonding to surface ? To slick Thanks Rick

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 9:03 AM

Well, now that I've sanded it all down with 3000 grit and slept on it I have looked the kit over and most of the alclad is intact. One wing and some spots here and there are worn through, so I am going to give it one more go.

I will paint all the colored areas first and get all them sealed and then mask them off, shoot some Tamiay flat black, to match the primer and only in the worn through areas. I will use the black to fade the blended areas and then focus on the tough spots. If it blends well I'll clear coat it with Alclad so it all matches.

I thought about it alot and I think this may work to repair the NMF. The bird is very dull in the photos, so the clear gives it more of a weathered look anyway. I'll  post up when I have some more results.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:15 AM

BD

I know that Alclad recommends to seal their high shine colors prior to decaling but I haven't done that and not even Solvaset which is very strong damaged the high shine unsealed Alclad. I make certain that it's cured by leaving it sitting for at  least 3-4 days minimum just to be safe.

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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:10 AM

Sorry to hear about the Alclad woes. I used Aqua Gloss as my undercoat for the Alclad metals, since their black paint takes FOREVER to cure. I also coated with aqua gloss before I masked when I built my P-51, which I think helped a lot.

Just a note on clears with Alclad: The first time I used it, I don't think I waited long enough from paint drying to put on decals and then spray Klear Kote (their laquer gloss coat - Aqua Gloss is acrylic). Anyway, it changed the color of the polished aluminum everywhere but under the decals themselves, which would have been fine, except it basically ended up being a carrier film highlighter.

Since then, I just clear before decals, then clear after as I would with flat paints. Helps tremendously.

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