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Problem with Revell 1:48 B24. Any suggestions please?

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:13 PM

JK

it sucks when this happens to the consumer as Patrick said. Please let us know what happens either way.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:39 PM
I sent photos to Revell. Let's see what happens.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:38 PM

Looking at the top view pic, I can see nearly all the issue is on the forward fuselage. It actually begins at the windscreen and appears to worsen moving forward. Aside from Revell getting you another kit, I would remove the pins just on the front from the windscreen forward and only on the top. Then I would push the left side forward and pull the right side rearward.

I think most of your problems will go away doing that. Then some careful seam filling and sanding and it would disappear completely. I had a similar issue on my B-17 and worked it out in that manner. You can't see that it ever existed now. Good luck. Welcome to modeling older kits.

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:26 PM

The very first pic looks like it gets worse as it goes forward, but that might be the angle.  the top down pic shows about the same difference all along from the front lip of the pit to the nose.  Getting rid of the pins there and just forcing that section of seam may work as long as it doesn't screw up the canopy fit.  Just might have to try that with everything else taped up and see how it looks.

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Posted by patrick206 on Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:03 PM

plasticjunkie

Patrick and BK

 

 viewing the picture on my phone which has a small screen and what I see is that the alignment at the front windshield area looks correct but the right side looks to be a tad longer on the top. If that is the  case, i don't think removing the pins will help. Looks like the bottom of the fuse lines up correctly which makes my suggestion of shortening the area not good. Look where the nose turret sits and it looks even to me.

 

plasticjunkie

Patrick and BK

 

 viewing the picture on my phone which has a small screen and what I see is that the alignment at the front windshield area looks correct but the right side looks to be a tad longer on the top. If that is the  case, i don't think removing the pins will help. Looks like the bottom of the fuse lines up correctly which makes my suggestion of shortening the area not good. Look where the nose turret sits and it looks even to me.

 

plasticjunkie

Patrick and BK

 

 viewing the picture on my phone which has a small screen and what I see is that the alignment at the front windshield area looks correct but the right side looks to be a tad longer on the top. If that is the  case, i don't think removing the pins will help. Looks like the bottom of the fuse lines up correctly which makes my suggestion of shortening the area not good. Look where the nose turret sits and it looks even to me.

 

Ernie, you're quite right, the fit does look good at the windshield area, way off at the nose. Is it possible for a mold to change dimension over time, or can plastic shrink? It is an old kit I think, who knows what the fault is.

I'll be curious to see what R/M says, if anything. One thing is certain, the customers shouldn't be plagued with these fit issues.

Patrick

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:53 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. The entire fuselage is in alaignment except at the very front, and only on the top. Look at the two following photos. In the top photo, the cockpit opening and the top turret opening are in alaignment. The astrodome opening is out of alaignment.  the second photo is a picture of the front landing gear opening. That opening is in alaignment but the astrodome opening is out of wack. Something happened to the mold at the top front of the fuselage. I will send photos to Revell. They have always come through for me. Yikes, this kit has a LOT of flash. The worst I have ever seen. Revell needs some new molds.

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:49 PM

Patrick and BK

 

 viewing the picture on my phone which has a small screen and what I see is that the alignment at the front windshield area looks correct but the right side looks to be a tad longer on the top. If that is the  case, i don't think removing the pins will help. Looks like the bottom of the fuse lines up correctly which makes my suggestion of shortening the area not good. Look where the nose turret sits and it looks even to me.

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Posted by patrick206 on Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:33 PM

JohnnyK

 

I started building the 1:48 Revell B24 and noticed an alignment issue with the two fuselage halves at the astrodome frame. The frames of the astrodome do not align by a lot! Does anyone have a suggestion for fixing this? I think that I will need to cut the entire frame off and fabricate a new frame.

 

 

 

 

JK - The lower fuselage seam appears to be aligned OK, how is the seam looking behind the cockpit? If it looks OK back to the tail, I'd suggest undoing the upper front seam that is not aligned. Give it some help by pushing back on the long side, pulling forward on the short side, tape it when aligned, then re-glue.

If what I see is actually the way it is, then I have seen this before and corrected it by that means. Sometimes you just have to aligne and fit in sections, taping it in areas that don't want to co-operate, then glue when the fit is proper.

Welders do "spot welds" when assembling, meaning they place a weld, then move on a short distance and place another, progressing along until the unit is together and fitting well. Then they go around and complete the welding process, between the spot welds.

You can do the same once the fit is good, place spots of glue joints along the seam lines, let it sit to cure, come back to remove the tape and complete the glue process.

Hope it makes sense to you, and that it may help. Good luck with it.

Patrick

  

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:31 PM

Wow the parts are just too way off. I agree with GH and contact Revell and see what they say.

The only other way would be to carefully cut following one of the raised panel lines to shorten just a tad the length of the section which is quite a tedious surgery.

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:24 PM

Remove ALL the alignment pins on both sides of the kit. Align everything up and apply tape is a few spots to hold the kit in an aligned state. Then, carefully use extra thin glue to bond the halves. Make sure you DON'T let the glue hit the tape. Skip those spots till it's dry, then remove the tape and do those areas. Your kit will align very well and you will be happier with the results. You don't need those pins to put it together. Many times they cause more problems anyway. Just do away with them.

BK

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:58 PM

No suggestions, but with the one side being wayyyyyyyy to short and the panel lines being off, I'd send that pic to Revell in a heartbeat and see what happens.......

You solution will probably be the way out, and fixing the other issues as you put it in and fill/sand/rescribe.  Not good quality control on the molds for that one.

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Problem with Revell 1:48 B24. Any suggestions please?
Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:50 PM

 

I started building the 1:48 Revell B24 and noticed an alignment issue with the two fuselage halves at the astrodome frame. The frames of the astrodome do not align by a lot! Does anyone have a suggestion for fixing this? I think that I will need to cut the entire frame off and fabricate a new frame.

 

 

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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