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1/72 C-123K Black Bat Special Ops Aircraft

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:56 PM

Nice work.  The curve of the top of the fuselage on the one I built looks about right, maybe part of the issue may be the height of the floor.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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    January 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Thursday, October 14, 2021 3:39 PM

Excellent looking floor and ribs! Really grabs your attention 

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:31 PM

It's hard to tell. It sort of looks like the door to the cockpit is jut too high on the kit part.

I found a good straight on photo of that bulkhead in a 123K taken from the cargo area.

I set decimal dimensions to the kit part and to the photo.

The overall proportion of height to width is the same. The proportions of the door openings are the same and the size relative to the overall height is the same.

The major discrepancy is that the door and the two lower openings are too high in the kit part. Which means the flight deck is too high in the kit fuselage.

Of course that can't be fixed, but the overall shape looks right. Easiest fix if you cared would be to lower the top of the door by about what you marked.

Those two lower openings sit just about at the cargo floor level in the actual a/c, but oh well.

 

Bill

 

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:10 PM

TheMongoose

Excellent looking floor and ribs! Really grabs your attention 

 

Thanks for the good words, Mongoose!

 

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    April 2012
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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:18 PM

John, Bill,

I think you guys are on it. If the openings and the floor height are off, that would account for the difference. But you're right Bill, it does look proportionally about right and it's not something I'm gonna worry about.

Thanks to both of you for checking it out!

Russ

 

 

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:30 PM

By the way, John, your build has pointed out some issues and errors in the kit that I wasn't aware of, so many thanks for your info. And I didn't know you were an engine mech. What planes did you work on? Did you work on the double-wasp engines?

 

 

 

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    October 2004
  • From: Orlando, Florida
Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:36 PM

It's been a long time since I saw a 123.  The lasttime was when we were heading home on our freedom bird had to stop for the night at Clark A.B. and it was parked over by a C-9.  I think the ship you atr doing was a light ship with a ton of flood lights on the bottom.  I have seen photos of the so called gunship version dthat dropped clusters from a crate placed over a whole in the floor.

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:42 PM

I have A & P and Air Transport Ratings, and was a helicopter mechanic in the CalARNG.  We had CH-37's which had R-2800's.  I've also worked on R-985's and R-1340's by P & W, also managed mantenance on PT-6's and JT-15's.  The only Wright's I remember working on were the R-1820 and R1300.  On the small side the Continentals and Lycomings.  On the radials the core of the engine is always worked on by FAA certified overhaul shops so I mostly did trouble shooting and cylinder changes on them. 

John

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    July 2021
Posted by Flight Line Media on Friday, October 15, 2021 7:41 AM
Nice work, John! Thanks for sharing it.

Andrew

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 15, 2021 9:10 PM

That's some cool experience, John!  Ikar, the one I'm modeling was a specal ops aircraft - not a candle ship or gun ship. Their names and descriptions, and the units they were assigned to were constantly changed to confuse both the enemy and us lol.

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, October 23, 2021 11:05 AM
While I whittle away at my fingers on this model, I thought I might inject some facts about this little known and very under-appreciated aircraft. Not information on its physical and developmental history – that’s well documented in Wikipedia and other sources - but about its contributions to the Vietnam war.

 

  

 

This little glider-turned-cargo plane was the primary resupply aircraft for most of Vietnam during the early years, and through most of the war for smaller and remote bases. Its brave crews were subjected to just as fierce and dangerous gunfire as any of the rescue and close air support aircraft, only they couldn’t shoot back. The combat pilots called these planes “trash haulers” but when remote bases were down to their last bullets and rolls of toilet paper, the sight of this ungainly little plane slipping onto their muddy runway was like an angel from heaven.
 
The C-123 was one of the principal saviors of the men at Khe Sahn. Because of its smaller size and ruggedness, it was able to land on the short, pot-holed runway where the larger C-130s could not. Many of them were destroyed while trying to resupply the marines. But this same scenario was repeated at countless other bases and outposts across Vietnam throughout the war. The plane got a bum rap because it was used to disperse Agent Orange, but it more than compensated with all of the good things it was used for.
 
All of the crews who flew this aircraft were brave men, but none more so than the Nationalist Chinese and American crews that flew this specially modified “Black Bat” version. These planes went where others couldn’t and wouldn’t go, and in most cases, there were no safe bases or runways waiting for them.
 
 
 
Just thought you might like to know Smile
 
Cheers,
 
Russ
 

 

 

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