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Heres My Dewoitine D520

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  • From: Niagara Falls NY
Posted by Butz on Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:53 AM
Hey woody,
Thanks for the kind words my friend!! Ya I have always liked the Dewoitine and thought that this scheme would be unique since the only photo that I saw was in the "In Action" book.
As always I did my research and found one other pic simular to the one in book mentioned above.
I'll try to post other angles of this bird as soon as I get a chance.
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, August 9, 2003 11:46 PM
Very nice Mr. Butz. I've always had a soft spot for the less recognized fighters of WWII. You have done that little French fighter justice. I too wouldn't mind to see a couple more angles of your clean build. Cool [8D]

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  • From: Niagara Falls NY
Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 9, 2003 2:36 AM
Hey Keywoth,
Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad that you liked my buildWink [;)]Blush [:I].
I'll see what I can do about getting a few other shots for you and of course mer!!

Hey mer,
See what I mean about making a decision...!!!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P] Tough aint it[:0]
Instead of your "normal" preshading technique why dont you try this maybe?
You dont have to put down a base coat of "scale black"(also good for shading,natural shadowing) or anything but first put down the darkest colour(if not mistaken, it would be the green).
From there go on and put down your light colour. Buy doing this, it will assist you w/ your shading.
I know the norm(or for some the correct way) is to paint light to dark but as you can tell I like to do things w/ a twistTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)].
This will also help you blend in the colors(soft edge). Y you ask because as you lay down you lighter color, it will take more to build up the true color and by this you will have a less chance of over spray to appear(if you have the right paint to thinner ratio).
Basically this will help you out in your natural weathering.
O by the way, I kinda like this scheme as well even though it is a restored bird.
If you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me at Falcon42177@yahoo.com or Falcon174th@aol.com
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 11:42 AM
oooh! look at those awesome tiger shots!!! mike you rock! i'm leaning toward PH Defender just because i want to try out this technique of preshading, and if i paint the tiger camo, you wont be able to see the preshading...but...shark mouth? c'mon! how do you pass up that?! sigh. tough call.

as to your dewoitine, i'm with keyworth got any more photos?
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  • From: NE Georgia
Posted by Keyworth on Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:34 PM
Mike, nice job on the bird. Got any other pics of her from a different perspective? Sharp paint scheme. Thanks for posting it. - Ed :)
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Posted by Butz on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:51 PM
Hey mer,
Ya know that would be a tose up?????? What I would do, if you have any reference material on the P-40, go through em and see what scheme you like the best.
If it were up to me I would do both schemes but the Flying Tigers bird would be first on my listTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]


Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 11:34 PM
Oooooh, check out the big shiny photo! Very nice! I really like the color of the body of the plane. It's such a pretty blue-grey. And since you asked mike, I'm in the middle of building p-40b. Debating about whether to paint it up like a flying tiger or standard army pearl harbor defender. Any thoughts?
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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 11:05 PM
Hey Berny,
Well at least ya dont have to go far w/ your boatTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]. This is some great weather we're having aint it??
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 10:54 PM
Que pasa Hector,
For the "smudge wash" you can check out the post that I left for colin. I tried to explain it the best way I could and like I have said before, for me its easier to show than to say.
If you have any questions regarding the wash, please feel free to e-mail me at Falcon42177@yahoo.com or Falcon174th@aol.com
As for the base could you drop me a line via e-mail. I'll be more than glad to explain to you how I create them because 5am comes pretty quick.
Have a good one my friend and thanks for the kind words.
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by mandrake on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 10:17 PM
Very nice Plane Mike, congrats, the paint looks great and also the Dio looks very realistic, can you tell me how did you make that diorama? i would like to try to do something like that (diorama), and please can you explain me what is a smudge wash?? is that the kind of wash where you paint all the panel lines in black first and then apply a light coat of paint??

Muchas Felicidades!!!
tu avion esta de poca madre!!
jeje
Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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  • From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley
Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Butz

Berny my man,
Dont be shy, you can tell the truth...!!!!!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)].
So hows the weather down in babe world I mean Florida?


The weather is hot and wet. We have had rain everyday for the last seven weeks. I now have lake front property just outside my front door.

The model room is nice and cool and dry. Spend a lot of my time in there as it is too wet do do any thing outside.

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 7:51 PM
"Smudge Wash"
Hey colin,
Want to know about the "smudge wash" do ya?? Well here it goes in a nut shell.
First off your model has to have a gloss coat to work smoothly. Once you have let the gloss coat dry for a day or two, now you can proceed w/ the wash.
I use a water based paint usually dark gray or scale black and use distilled water as my thinner as you could say.
The ratio of paint to distilled water is up to you. I have a tendency to go a lil more w/ the distilled water.
Once the wash is made, I then start to apply this method with a fine artist brush.
I target any kind of detail such as landing gear,wheel wells, panel lines and what ever else I see fit.
I usually wait 5-10 minutes, then I go back over the areas that I have applied the wash to and wipe off any access wash with a soft moist towel(bathing cloth).
You may repete the process as many times as you like or till you get the desired lookWink [;)]
The process to doing the wash may seem a little tediuos but the final results are pretty impressive. Well at least I think so but then again 5 out of 4 voices agree w/ meTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]
If you have any more questions please feel free to e-mail me at Falcon42177@yahoo.com or Falcon174th@aol.com
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 7:29 PM
Berny my man,
Dont be shy, you can tell the truth...!!!!!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)].
So hows the weather down in babe world I mean Florida?

Hey John,
Thanks for the kind wordTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]. Sweet build yourself. So when did Hasegawa make a quarter scale D520??. Or is that a foreign marketed kit by themQuestion [?]
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 7:06 PM
Hey claymore,
Thats why I picked this particular a/c because its different and that there are not many photos around of this bird.
Glad you liked her!!

wibhi2,
Glad you liked it!! So what are you working on these days?

Hey migs,
Thank you for the kind words my friend. My D520 an inspiration??Wink [;)]Blush [:I]. Like I have said before, its mind over martter. If you dont mind it, it does not matterSmile [:)] Just go for it my friendTongue [:P].
Remember one thing, PATIENCE..!! Thats all you need

Wasup Fuzzy,
Thank you too kindley my friendBlush [:I]


sup allan,
Thanks for the kind words and as for the landscape, thats a whole different animalTongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Evil [}:)]
Overall I liked how the based turned out. Simple yet eye catchingBlush [:I]
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by John P on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 3:13 PM
Pretty! Just to join in, here's my hasegawa 1/48 D.520:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/dewoitine_d520.html

I needed a break from my usual anal detail-heavy stuff, and whipped this out in three evenings just to get something done.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:56 PM
Hey Butz, any chance of explaining the "smuge wash' to me? oh! by the way great looking model.
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Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:46 PM
Butz. You should know which chapter. You are a charter member, aren't you? Wink [;)]

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by allan on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:14 AM
Hey, Butz. Nice job on the Dewoitine. Looks like its ready to roll. You got some great landscape, too,my friend. Great to see more of your stuff.

Oh, and the photo is not bad, really.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers

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Posted by Butz on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 10:54 PM
Hey mada,
Thank you too much my friendWink [;)]. Yea I know what you mean about those canopiesSad [:(]. I too get nervous when it comes to masking and seeing if the canopy made it through the painting processTongue [:P]

dj,
Glad you liked the scheme as well. I thought that it was different and the prop gets a lot of double takesWink [;)].

Berny my friend,
So what chapter is thatQuestion [?]Question [?] LMAO....!!!!!!
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 6:20 PM
Niiice one Butz, Dewoitine is a rare breed indeed, the great pics you and others send out of your work have me digging much deeper for some extra effort with my builds - inspiration that i must say a big thanks for.......Shy [8)] Flaps down on this one Eight Ball [8] !
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Posted by wibhi2 on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 4:01 PM
Real nice Butz. Pic ain't bad either - just click on it to get it bigger.

I can only dream to get my AC to look like that.
3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 8:23 AM
Nice Butz! Nice historical sidebar on the prop colors.
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Posted by berny13 on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 8:15 AM
Mike. Make the check out to NSPDPMB (National Society of Poor Dumb Plastic Model Builders). Smile [:)]Tongue [:P]Cool [8D]Big Smile [:D]

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 1:52 AM
Superb, Butz. Good choice for the colour scheme. I like things done with a difference!
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Posted by maddafinga on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 1:12 AM
Another great looking bird butz. That canopy is almost like it's not even there. I just screwed up the canopy to my f-18 a couple of days ago, gonna have to order a new one. I seem to get more and more impressed with a good canopy the more I try to fool with them. Very good job all around, keep up the good work, and keep posting pics for me to be jealous of.

madda
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Posted by fuzzy on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 1:00 AM
Nice job ! Really like your weathering and choice of paint scheme.
fuzzy
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Posted by Butz on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 12:24 AM
Hey Blackwolf,
O yea.... thats right[:0]. Well I guess I have somin new for the next meeting dont I.
The other pictures that you have taken of my stuff were great, so why ruin a good thingTongue [:P]Tongue [:P][:0][:0]Black Eye [B)]Wink [;)](Thanx man..!!!)

Hey mer,
See now check the pick, it was all for you..!!!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Blush [:I]Wink [;)]Smile [:)].
Thanks for the kind words..!! So whats your next project going to be??
Flaps up,Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 12:05 AM
ooooooh very cool! i dig the unusual paint scheme! let me throw in my 2 cents and say post the bigger picture boyyyyy!
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Monday, August 4, 2003 11:48 PM
Hey Mike Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]

You coulda at least given credit for the bad picture! Evil [}:)]Angry [:(!]Disapprove [V]Sad [:(]Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]

When you reduce images, they get all funkified, to answer your question of earlier.Cool [8D]Eight Ball [8] (By the way, I'd change it to the larger image so these fine folks can see it a bit closer! Wink [;)])

And you haven't had it at a meeting, that's when you disappeared for half a year, remember? Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)][:0]Eight Ball [8]

By the way... [:0]

What's with all the smilies? Question [?]Question [?]Tongue [:P]Smile [:)]Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]Smile [:)]Tongue [:P]Question [?]Question [?]


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