Official Natural Metal Finish Group Build

Thank you Neu. There's always this select few planes that always look good to you, no matter what finish. The Dc3 or C47, in it's military form has always been one of them for me.

Now, to save this group build from the deep dark abyss called page 2.....

For the LA5 i have been building for the racer group, also moderated by our always entertaining and pleasant host Vetteman i have attempted to use airbrush ready revell paints. This turned out quite unsatisfactory so for this build i have experimented with an alternative i have used before: alkyd based spraycans... From what ive learned about it, this is a sort of laquer. Don't really care about that as long as it works...

To make this the most shiny model ive built sofar (a goal i have set for myself from the start of this build) i have adapted the gloss black base method using these spraycans. Sofar i am extremely pleased with the outcome. See for yourself gentlemen:

Is that shiny and smooth as a babies rear end or what?

Yes, unfortunately there is a visible seam running down the spine of this lady but i am kinda ok with that considering the black turned out so well and the fact that this is a very old mold. I am even happy about the fact that it isnt as bad as it was before.

See ya next time!

Richard

Richard that model is looking pretty good, I too like the DC-3 Frame, as I've indicated before, so to see your build is a bit inspiring for me to do one too. I've got the same feeling about my Meteor, particularly because I've done quite a bit of research on it looking up photos and reading its history. I spent last night scribing a panel line around the nose of the engine nacelles, only to look up reference photos to see there were no such lines (as you can see below the nacelles seem almost flush) Thus a whole night of work had to be puttied over and sanded down. Fine by me because the lines didn't look to straight anyway. :p

Hmmmm, i must say i actually liked the build sofar, especially considering the fact that the mold is pretty aged. There is something about a NMF C47 that just causes me to keep smiling and giving it my best shot. I just hope i can deliver...

On top of that there is an extra reason why i want this model done as good as i can. I have told Randy why and in time i will let everybody in on the big mystery... It involves custom decals and sofar i have scr*wed up every attempt with using a wrong sealing agent. Just ordered a professional solution from microscale industries and hope that solves that little annoyance for me...

Richard

Fermis wow another nicely done shiney build for the front page ! Very well done finish too, I like the way the washes worked for you. I too have been playing with water color washes and really like using them. I am sure I would kick my tail big time if I got hold of a Hasi 104 Fermis, but these older less detailed troubled kits teach me a bunch, so when like my last build I get hold of a Tamiya kit things just go so smooth and easy. Besides I am a sick person and like the challange. Thanks for your complement on my ejection seat, I know it aint much but I had to show it off.

Kermit that C-47 must be driving you nuts ! Man it has a lot of putty on it but its coming along nicely. This one is gonna be sweet with the NMF on it, hurry up man I cant wait to see it. Thanks for you coments on my scratch building, to be honest I really got a lot of satisfaction from building that silly little seat. This scratch building opens a whole new dimenition to modeling for me. Richard I didnt think I could do it either, ya just gotta dive in and go for it. Just draw on your ship building skills and and git-r-done

Vetteman, Impressive scratchwork Randy!. Always interesting to see what people can do with a bid of card, tape and wire. Couldn't do it myself buddy. Well done!

Fermis, Thats darn fast building there! And the result hasn't suffered one bit from it. Very nice racer and a flawless build. I noticed you decided not to paint the pit? At least i believe i still see some grey inthere... could be very wrong in wich case i apologize. Impressive model sir

Ok, i promised pics of my Gooneybird and here they are. I have finished constructionwork and masked all clearparts and items that will not be receiving a NMF. You will notice there is a big big gap where the cargo doors are supposed to be. I decided to fill up the hole with masking tape, spray the doors separate from the model and attach them later in opened up state. Closing everything up on the F86 made me decide on this right from the start

Especially the attaching of the wings left me with pretty big gaps to fill up so i hope it wont show when i spray it in NMF. Decided to use a gloss black base first so any leftover seams should show soon enough... Ah well, all in all the mold was pretty impressive considering it is stamped 1978...

Seeya next time boys

Richard

 Looks good Vman. If you ever get ahold of Hasi's 104(also boxed by Revell for 1/2 the cost!!!) you'll kick yourself for ever messin with the testors kit!!! I guess it'll be that much more rewarding when you kick this ones a$$!!!

 Now, for entry #3 for this GB. (also a crossover from the Air Racer GB)

Hasigawas 1/48 P-51d with Red Pegasas decals, "Galloping Ghost" in it's 1948 markings. It has since been highly modified and is still in the game.

 I used rattlecans for all but the NMF, which is my usual MM Metalizer, followed by a coat of metalizer sealer, decals, and another coat of sealer. I did a light wash on the panels of the NMF and just the control surfaces for the wings and tail. A bit of pastel powder finished off the exaust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fermis Your Saber is on the front page, again I am sorry I missed it.

Ok guys I feel I really got something done on the F104 although its not really much. This is a Testers kit with no detail at all just basically a shell. I have been working on the ejection seat for a few days now and cant resist showing off my labors. Actually it was more a labor of thought and tinkering than building. So heres what I started out with for a cockpit.

I had added tape to the seat for cushions and some plasticard to the seat back as a spacer for the ejection rails.

Here is what I have now.

Its far from perfect, I know the buckles are on the big side but I couldnt make them any smaller. I used plasticard, masking tape and beading wire. Now I gotta figure out what to do about the IP and side panels.

 

Fermis Sorry I missed that one, now now I will make it all better heres a tissue , will get it on the front page today. Thanks for letting me know Fermis.  

Guys check the front page make sure I haven't missed anyone or made other mistakes.

 Hey V-man, just went back to the front page to check em all out, to get caught up. There is one missing. F-86d ,pg 15

 Oh, and I don't really build fast, I just cut corners and ixnay the unnessecary!!!

 For the burnercan itself, I sprayed flat black and drybrushed some silver then did a wash of raw umber. On the fuse, it's just different shades of "silver".

Ofcourse i send my best out to Pavlvs. Noone deserves to be struck down by such a thing as MS. I wish you a full recovery and the ability to model again.

 Fermis,

From the looks of it (and the instruction sheet) your hasi is the exact same model as the checkertail i built for the group. Loved every second i worked on it and hope you will too. Cant wait to drewl on the pics

Vetteman,

For my last build (the F86) i used steel paint instead of aluminum (slightly darker tone), white drybrush and black wash to get the result i was looking for on the exhaust (that includes the engine).

Thinking about it i could have also used something of a red/ orange-ish wash (maybe dilluted clear orange paint) to get that burn marked steel look.... Might experiment on that on a future jet build

My C47 is progressing slowly but im getting there... Will shoot some pics soon but time is against me these last days. I beg for your patience gentlemen

Richard

Fermis I gotta figure out how you build so fast, I have been working on the scratch built ejection seat for my F-104 for 2 days now geeze. Its not perfect but close enough I guess. So hurry up Fermis I love posting finished builds on the front page.

Guys any hints on painting the burner can for this build ? I have never done one before. Base coat of silver then jet exhaust ?

 Sad news about Pavlvs, I'm not a prayer but will send some hope his way.

 I had to go back through some of these pics here...WOW!!!! Great stuff! 86s hold a special place in my heart(right next to 51s)

 Anyway, I have a crossover entry(as mentioned by our great host, also hosting the Racer GB)

 It is 48th Hasigawa P-51, ever so slightly modified as the 1948 version of "Galloping Ghost" racer #77. The only mods are, deletion of the seat armor/headrest and filling & sanding down the gunports and all lights, except the beacon on the tail.

 The wings are white(rattlecan), the rudder and gearbay grey(rattlecan), anti-glare black(rattlecan), and the fuse will be airbrushed alluminum. Decals come from RED PEGASUS.

 This is my first go with a hasi, stang. It's pretty good, but I think the Tami beats it just cause the flaps can be dropped. The hasi has more interior detail and a more detailed gearbay.

 This one will be done in a day or so.

 

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Guys sorry about my typo, our fellow builder who was stricken with MS is Pavlvs not me. Cant believe I forgot to mention his name. Sorry Pavlvs.

Neu They are both coming along nicely, I still cant believe the detail in Meteor cockpit even if it is PE. Its all so small, these big fingers could never do what you are doing with it. The VF-11 looks to be a major pain but is lookin good under your hand. Cant wait to see more !

Fermis your P-51D build the Galloping Ghost race #77 is on the front page shortly.

Guys I have my F-104 on the bench and have been building the cockpit for it as the Testers kit has none. Like I have said I am a slow builder so will have some pictures in a day or two. Loads of scratch building to do on this one.

Also I have a sad announcement to make. It seems one of our builders Pavlvs has been stricken and cant build at this time, I am hoping this will change so I wish to keep his build on the front page. Here is what he posted in the What If BG. I hope I am not out of line but all the prayers he can get will help.

Hi guys,

I have been derelict in my duties to this forum and I ask forgiveness. I have been attacked recently by Multiple Sclerosis that has taken the use of my legs and is now robbing my hands of function. I am undergoing treatment to reverse the loss of motor function but I have no idea what the results will be. Building models is becoming impossible due to the loss so I must ask you all to keep up this GB. I will continue with awe to follow your builds but can offer no more building of my own. Please keep up the good work and if you have a prayer or two to spare, I would br grateful if you could send them my way. (That is God's way on my behalf) In the mean time, even typing this post has taken about an hour to get it right so I will be watching but replying may be too hard. I am bowing out of the FSM forum so please keep building and keep inspiring with your awesome work. God Bless you all.

Fr. Pavlvs

 

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Ah its just good old, PE... This is actually a good model by MPM; it has a lot of nice PE and resin, and the build is going smoothly without much problems. Its actually been one of the more pleasant days of modeling I've had in awhile.



The tailplane with the masking: I reused the same tape from tailfins.


Tailplane finished painting and the meteor fuselage glued together. The Tailplane had a bit of leakage but thats easily fixable.

Testfit on the VF-11. The lack of black paint is because I sanded down the centre due to excessive pitting.

Cockpit and control panel; all PE.

Testfit of the Meteor... Its a cool looking bird.

Neu your Meteors cockpit is lookin sweet ! I just cant believe the detail some of you guys get into a 1/72 scale build. The IP looks really really good too, but ya gotta tell me what you made the seatbelts out of. You say you may have over done the weathering, it looks good to my eyes. 

Been working on my two models... The Meteor's cockpit has been going well, though I may have overdone the metal weathering a bit. I also added the weights to the front. I'm also doing the tailpiece of the the VF-11, which will have the same scheme as the tailfins.

Thought I would let you guys know I dont know if I can compete with Fermis's fine build but the F-104C is back on the bench today. This one is gonna be slow going I think lots of work to be done.

kermit wrote:

You gotta love a P47 anytime you see one

gotta agree with Kermit thats a nice one Blkhwkmatt.

Kermit back. Hope you had a great time too ! I see the gremlins kept their mitts off your C47 while you were gone.

Great builds there my modeling friends! You gotta love a P47 anytime you see one

Came home from my holiday in the states on the 15th and kinda started working again today after the jetlag bothered me a bit less....

Weathered the other engine housings and assembled the wing parts this evening. From the pic you can see just how beefy and large this 1:48 C47 is...:

Richard

-Neu- wrote:

...I might go and buy metalizer as a substitute... what did you think of it?

As far as price goes you there is a huge difference.  Alcad is way more expensive.  The trick to the metalizer paints is to take your time and if you have to mask off an area let the paint dry for a day or so and then use the lowest tack masking material that you have.  If you prime the model the metalizer might adhear better, I'm not sure about that since I havent primed any of the ones that I have used metalizer on. 

There are both buffing and non-buffing tones, right now metalizers are my NMF product of choice (but then again, thanks to the cost of alcad I havent tried it).

 Hope that helps

here is a P-47 that is painted with Metalizers ( think it is the aluminium plate tone)

the bare metal areas on the lower wing of the Fw-190D-9 are also metalizer

Matt

Blkhwkmatt yeah now that you mention it we have talked about that graining in the past.  I think you may be right about the adhesive on the back being the trouble. I still call it a job well done Matt, and hope you will give foil another try, maybe this time applying the adhesive to household foil yourself.

Neu Lookin good so far and the stripes look great wish we could have seen the masking.

Hey Matt, those models look fantastic... especially the Mig-17; weathering adds so much character to a model. Given that quantities of Alclad are scarce in Canada I might go and buy metalizer as a substitute... what did you think of it?

I've been slowly working on my two projects the Meteor 8 and the VF-11. Actually most of my time has been devoted to the VF-11 as its been problematic. I decided to build it as a clean atmospheric aircraft, and loose what are known as a space fast packs. I came up with the scheme based on this CF-100 which was at a museum I once frequented.

I should have taken more photos (particularly of the masking of the "legs" or engine nacelles) but I didn't have my camera handy. Anyway the meteor has only its cockpit partially built (which I didn't take a photo of, so I'm just showing the VF-11).

If you're wondering why the rear has been finished and nothing else, its because the construction required this part to be painted before its attached; there are some visible areas underneath that I wouldn't get a good paint job on otherwise. Last night I finished some black coating, but didn't have a mask coat on some parts so thats why there are sections without paint. Hope you like it.

Thanks for the complements - I used micromesh polishing cloths instead of the steel wool.  When I am looking closely at the foil, the "graininess" looks more like the adhesive on the back side than anything else. But I could be way wrong on that as well.

Dont think that I'll be attempting the lightning kit that I had listed, but I will check in and keep up with the rest of the builds.

Matt

Blkhwkmatt Well done on both builds ! They are on the front page, man I love adding finished builds there.

The F-86 looks great for a first attempt at foiling, must have been a task trying to get foil on a 1/72 scale build. Gotta say your foil looks better than my first try, I made a bunch of mistakes let me tell ya and my build was in 1/48 scale. My only cratque' would be the graininess of the foil, especially in that scale. I dont know if you can burnish Bare Metal Foil with steel wool to remove that grain or not. Your edges look good, and follow the panels lines very well, but again the burnishing would have softened those too. Over all I would say very well done. Hope you try the foil again you will find it much easier next time.

I love the MiG17 ! The weathering you did truely makes it look very heavly used and abused.

I tell ya my hat goes off to anyone who can build this well in 1/72.

 

Well as promised here are some pics of the two kits that I completed for this GB!!

First is the 1/72nd Academy F-86 finished with Bare Metal Foil (my first attempt)

I think that it turned out OK, but I know that I need to improve on how to finish the edges of surfaces.  I had a bit of a problem with the top of the vertical fin.

Next is the 1/72nd scale DML Jian J15 ( J-6 Mig17) finished with Model Master Metalizers.  The preshading was completed with burnt metal color metalizer and then the promary colors were applied.  Used Kit decals on this one and finished it as a Polish Mig-17.

I packed as much weight into the nose as I could and it is still a tail dragger, also note the MM Metalizer jar for some size reference.

Here is the same Jar sitting next to the F-86

Thanks for looking and all comments are welcome.  This was an enjoyable GB, I just hope to one day have some shiny birds that look as good as the ones I have seen here

Matt

 

congrats on the wins.

Fermis WOW! Congradulations on your win ! You are a prize winning machine my friend, thats what 3 now ? This picture will be on the front page in short order.  Well done Now Mr. Fermis, I was gonna start my 104 next week but now after looking at yours I dunno Nah I gotta build it.

PM is on short final to ya

Raptordriver Good to see you back and thank you for the complement.

 Well, V-man, here's another award for the front page!!! 1st place!!!

 I don't think I'd have built it(yet), if not for this GB.

  PM me your particulars (t-6 is holding short awaiting a destination!!!)

Hey Randy,nice build, P-38 is one of my favorites. Looks pretty shiney