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Helicopter Group Build 2009

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 2, 2009 8:49 PM

I didn't realize how big those power eggs are... looks like alot of weight to be hanging off the side. Almost looks like two giant fists. Wink [;)]

I'm glad to see her coming together! Lookin' good. Thumbs Up [tup] 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:57 PM

Jeremy, yes, the nacelles are large.  They seem a lot larger when the engines are running, especially a few feet off the ground in a hover.  The noise was stupendous, and if there is any loose gravel you best stand behind something.  On the other hand, if you need to do anything to the engines you sincerely wish there was more room inside the nacelle.  The right chip detector plug  was one example.  I always wished for another elbow when I pulled that to inspect and clean it.

Here she is after another 5 or 6 hours work.  Doesn't look like I've done anything, but I have done the preliminary work on mounting the rotor head, fit and glued the canopy, installed the cockpit, fit the two nose doors after painting the inside interior green as they are all clear parts, and then masked the windows off.   The cockpit was a very tight fit.  The reason I installed the cockpit after the canopy is because the canopy was just a bit narrow.  I superglued one side, cured it, and then pushed the other side in to the right position and tacked it with super glue.  Fits well now.  The clear parts are very thin.

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:33 PM

Glad to see some progress on the CH-37, I've really wanted to see one of these built, it is such an unusual helicopter. I'm hoping to get to mine as a winter project in a few months.

 

I did get a little more done on the UH-19, the floats are quite fiddly, they want to spread apart and tend to go pigeon toed. I finally set them between two metal squares to hold them in place unil the glue dried.

Next step should be the decals.

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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:41 PM

I almost forgot, as a bonus the Skycrane.

The cockpit is not very detailed, many kits in this scale leave out the collective, but this didn't even include the cyclic. As far as I can tell this kit first came out in 1969 so I guess it is a plus it even included an interior. I found a pic of the cockpit and made up the controls from styrene rod. Unfortunately I goofed and put the cyclics in backwards, but I don't think that will be too obvious once its all closed up. 

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Posted by Avus on Monday, October 5, 2009 1:49 AM

Great work on your 37 John. It's one of the "old-time-helos" that has the "coolest" look to me. If they only made one in 1/48 or even 1/35 scale ...

On the other hand the H-19  is not so cool to me, but your work is great, Aaron. And that Skycrane looks very promising.

I spent the WE doing the most annoying thing our hobby requires: sanding and filling! If you're interested I'll post pictures of the result in my next post.

Klaus

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:26 PM

Aaronw - The UH-19 is coming along nicely and the Skycrane is a cool treat! Thumbs Up [tup]

John - I know that I'm not finished with the Hind yet but I picked up this kit for el cheapo and wanted to know if it would be a suitable subject for a second build.

Don't know how well she fits in... kinda half helicopter, half airplane. Confused [%-)]

Looks like a... uh... interesting build. Wink [;)]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, October 5, 2009 7:37 PM

Wellll,,OK Jeremy.  Actually I'd like to see one of those built up.  The nmf framing around all that glass should be fun.  Go for it, though the purists may complain it is a gyroplane it's close enough for me.

Klaus, where would you put a 1/35 CH-37?  That would be a 24 1/2 in rotor diameter. In 1/72 it's already 12 inches.  It would look good though, wouldn't it!

Did a little more today, fiddley stuff.  The tailplane is mounted on some struts, I sorta made it look like the pictures I have, the instructions are indefinite at least as I understood them  (or don't?).  The aux fuel tanks were way longer than they shold be, but they got the ends shaped pretty well so I sawed 1 1/4 inches out of the middle and they look about right after sanding out the middle joint so the curve is right.  The tank mount pylon and struts are also on but I forgot to photo that.

 

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, October 5, 2009 8:31 PM

Thanks John!

I thought the XV-1 looked pretty neat and the kit was super cheap (there's a reason for that)... it just screams 1950's. Big Smile [:D] How cool is that?

Nice work on the tailplane. It looks nice and delicate... that would have turned into a disaster in my (un)capable hands. I can't believe how much you had to cut out of the aux tanks.

I meant to comment earlier on the fact that you worked on the CH-37s. I love to hear stories like yours about how these beasts were loud and cramped and would pound you with flying debris. Probably wasn't the greatest gig in the world for you at the time, but for a young(er) fella like me, it all sounds so romantic. "Those must have been the days" as they say. I'll never even get to see one of those things in action let alone work on one. Hearing stories like that from you, or anyone else, puts a great big smile on my face and sends me to daydream land. Thumbs Up [tup]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 9, 2009 4:24 PM

Well... I decided to pidder around with the XV-1 a little. What few pieces there were to the cockpit looked out of scale to each other. The box claims this kit is 1/32 scale but the instructions say 1/30 scale... who knows, who cares. Wink [;)] 

I added some fiddley bits and stuff to the cockpit to add some interest when peaking inside and to try and scale everything up together. The rear seat sat way too low so I raised it and the front seat was oh so tiny so I enlarged it. I also shaved off the molded on collective and glue a spare part in it's place. There was no regular control stick but the box art clearly shows some guy holding onto one for dear life so I threw some scrap together and carved a handle from sprue. The only other thing I will be adding is wiring for the instrument panel... after I throw some paint on.

I couldn't find any interior pictures of this thing so I'm kinda making it up as I go. The instructions say to paint the interior light blue but I'm thinking more light grey. What do you folks think? Is light grey a proper 50's era helo interior color?

Initial test fit of the fuselage was pretty bad... I expected that though. I'm not going too crazy with this kit but maybe I'll clean up the body a little... very rough texture to it. This thing is gonna be great! Big Smile [:D]

 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 9, 2009 4:30 PM

I would go for interior green or light grey, maybe look at some other McDonnell airplane of the period.  It is going to be an interesting model, that's for sure.  How well do the clear parts fit?  Might do to fit the nose part before gluing the fuselage halves to get the best fit there.

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 9, 2009 4:58 PM
 jeaton01 wrote:

Might do to fit the nose part before gluing the fuselage halves to get the best fit there.

Thanks for the tip John... I'll definitely go that route as the nose glass has a pretty shady fit. The rest of the glass pops right into place and looks to be trouble free. Thumbs Up [tup]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, October 9, 2009 7:00 PM

Jeremy,

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    Ray

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 9, 2009 7:26 PM
Ray, great pictures.  That must be at Ft. Rucker, right?  I didn't know the airplane was still around.  The interior looks light grey with a flat black panel, at least to my eye.  May even be bare aluminum inside.

John

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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:14 PM

John,

  Those are historical photos from the archives, but yes, she is still in storage.  I may be going down next week.  If I do, I'll try to get pics of her.  As I recall it's not in the best of condition.

    Ray

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Posted by Sherman1111 on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:18 PM

Gentlemen I blew the pain job beyond repair so I am withdawing from this group build I will remove the bsadge from my list I enjoyed the time spent here and have lerned alot thanks

jd

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:37 PM

Thanks Ray! Thumbs Up [tup]

I didn't quite get the inside right by those pics but I think I'll stick with what I've done for now. The kit is very toy-like so I'm not going to be putting out a masterpiece but it will be nice to help it along.

Would be nice to see the state of her now... bad shape or not, at least they kept her around.

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:40 PM

JD - Sorry to hear that. That was a fine lookin' kit you had built... love the Russian stuff.

BTW, how have you been feeling? Better I hope!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 9, 2009 11:46 PM
Sorry to hear that, jd.  But there are still more helicopter kits available!Smile [:)]  Maybe if you let it sit awhile you will feel better about it, I'd like to see one of those done.  I think you should keep the badge, you did MOST of the work to earn it.  Fly it around the room a few times as it is and call it good.

John

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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:13 AM

Dad-gum! I need to get my rear in gear! I haven't posted anything for a good minute for my MH-6 Littlebird.

BTW, hey John ... the OH-58D isn't going to get done. I haven't even started it and I'm just not going to have the time .... maybe I'll keep it around for the 2010 Helo GB!?!

I'm planning on taking the MH-6 LB to a show on the 24th, so I know its going to get done.

Klaus ... Long time no see, I know ... sorry .... I owe you some pics on the Delta boys ....

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:29 AM

First may I say that there are some very nice Helo's coming together here.  I have been gone for a while with my work but have still managed to keep up with the posts.  I have started the work on the UH-1C, with the cockpit mostly completed.  I added the harnesses from medical tape, other than that it is completely OOB.  Here are some pictures:

Matt

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:33 PM

Matt... off to a great start! I like the medical tape harness. Good idea! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

I've become a little discouraged today. I installed the canopy on the Hind and it needed a little squeeze in the middle to get it to sit right. Well, I seem to have squeezed too hard and ended up crazing the clear plastic on one side. It doesn't look too bad in the pic but it shows up real well over here. Thumbs Down [tdn]

I'll try to hit the hobby shop next week and pick up another kit and use that canopy while I wait for one to come from Revell.

Oh well... you win some, you lose some! Wink [;)]   Maybe I'll get some seat time in that crazy XV-1 now.

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:10 PM

John,

Can you remove the 1/48 Cobra?  All my quarter scale stuff is going at the next club auction.  If you allow stuff that's already started, I may resurrect the 1/72 Hind I started for Arki's Mud Mover's GB.  It's about 10%, if that.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:27 PM
I'll change it, Buddy.  1/48 helicopters get pretty big, don't they. 

John

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Posted by lewbud on Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:05 AM

John,

Well there is that, plus I'm trying to reduce the stash.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Avus on Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:48 AM

Interesting helo-plane you got there, Jeremy, and the progress on both, the XV-1 and the Hind are great. Sorry to hear bout the crack.

John your 37 is proceeding splendidly; I love how you handled the tail assembly.

Sorry to hear about your paint job, JD. I confident you'll fix it after cooling down the spirits.

Indeed MC: GIMME PICS! Looking forward to see that Six-Pax done.

Looking good, Matt. As it has been said the medicaltape is a brilliant idea for harness.

Now, my update:

Status; the skids are only dry-fitted:

Dog-house (puttied and sanded):

NTS-Nose:

As feared the nose was a pain in the you-know-what! In order to be able to fit it properly I glued two styrene strips on the inside as guides. Then slided the nose-strips into the fuselage, fitted the nose, waited for the glue to harden and added CA-glue to stengthen the hold.

Currently I'm filling-and-sanding the gaps on the nose and the engines.

Klaus

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Posted by jmabx on Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:45 PM

Nice to see those Cobras coming together, Klaus. Thumbs Up [tup] Those gaps on the nose don't look to fun.

One thing though... that picture on your computer monitor... looks to me like someone is all tied up over there. Wink [;)] What have you been up to lately? Hmmm? Big Smile [:D]

 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Avus on Friday, October 16, 2009 1:18 AM

Thanks, Jeremy!
Indeed all that filling and sanding is rather annoying.

Regarding the monitor: you don'tcha see notting, capisc' ! Laugh [(-D]
(actually it's an episode of "The Unit")

Klaus

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Posted by ludwig113 on Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:56 AM

hi all,

i've not forgotten this build,its just i've been real busy and i've got nowhere to spray at the moment as i'm converting my garage into a workroom.

but today i've spent an hour or so(in between coffee breaks)masking the glass on my 1/48 gazelle.

i've also changed my mind on the colour of the helo...

hopefully i'll get around to spraying in the next week or so...

 

paul

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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:08 PM
jmabx, what color did you use for the blue green color in the cockpit? Soviet Helicopters use an odd color and it looks like you found a good match for it. I have several Soviet helicopters so it would be handy to get it before I start building one.  
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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:19 PM

Aaron,

Model Master has it in their line of enamels Russian Interior Blue Green.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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