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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Monday, June 22, 2009 9:50 AM

 jeaton01 wrote:
Klaus, I've seen no more submissions for the badge, so are you happy with us using the one you offered?  I like it.

Not only I'm happy, I'd be honored!
This is the link:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7739/heligb2009badge.jpg

as usual you have to encose it in the [img-] tags.

Klaus

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:50 PM
Klaus, I've seen no more submissions for the badge, so are you happy with us using the one you offered?  I like it.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:44 PM
You're on the list, TJ.  Welcome aboard.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Mobile, AL
Posted by Tango Juliet on Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:32 PM
I may look into it (there not on his current list of things).  Thanks.  I know back in 2006, I got some after market sets from another decal supplier for other units and was happily surprised at what I was able to find (5th TFW, Minot AFB, ND; and the ANG Unit F-4's from where I grew up in Ft. Wayne, IN).  Since I'm just getting back into this, I'll have to dig through my supplies and see who that was.

TJ Rohyans

Mobile, AL, USA

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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:57 PM
 Tango Juliet wrote:

I've been away from plastic for a few years, but what the heck, count me in.  Now I'll have to figure out just what I'll model.  I currently work for Era Helicopters, LLC, as a CSR, so it'll more than likely be one of ours.  I'll let you know sometime this week.

 ***Make it a UH-1N from the now defunct 72nd Helicopter Sq., Langley AFB*** 

Ever since we de-activated the Squadron in November of '95, I've wanted to do this.  The only trouble is the Wing and Squadron markings.  I've never tried to make my own decals, and I don't think there are any available after-market.

 

Check with fireball modelworks, he does a lot of UH-1 stuff and has on occasion been able to help people out with custom markings for their UH-1 builds.

http://www.fireballmodels.info/

 

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  • From: Mobile, AL
Posted by Tango Juliet on Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:21 PM

I've been away from plastic for a few years, but what the heck, count me in.  Now I'll have to figure out just what I'll model.  I currently work for Era Helicopters, LLC, as a CSR, so it'll more than likely be one of ours.  I'll let you know sometime this week.

 ***Make it a UH-1N from the now defunct 72nd Helicopter Sq., Langley AFB*** 

Ever since we de-activated the Squadron in November of '95, I've wanted to do this.  The only trouble is the Wing and Squadron markings.  I've never tried to make my own decals, and I don't think there are any available after-market.

TJ Rohyans

Mobile, AL, USA

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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Friday, June 19, 2009 8:15 PM

If I get the time, I may also do Revell's 1/48Apache...we'll see how timecomes now that I amback in the workforce!

 

Justin

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, June 19, 2009 4:11 PM
So then the OH-6 is a "practice build".  Smile [:)]

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Friday, June 19, 2009 6:21 AM

So, I've tried not to work on my MH-6 dio so that I can have it be part of the GB when it starts up, but I'm having WAY too much fun with it and its really come a long way this week. I don't think that I'll be 100% complete with it by the start, however, I don't think that w/ the progress that I've made on it that it would really fit the bill for the GB anymore. W/ that said, I'm not backing out, but rather just mark me down for Academy's 1/35 OH-58D for the GB.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:44 AM

Self appointed Crew Chief Bondo says that the basis of this GB is Humor.

I want a video from someone by 10.00 pm Friday, PST. Photobucket will host your download.

The point is I am looking for some helicopter humor, which is a given since the things are a joke. Of course they aren't and a Vietnam committee would be a most welcome thing. I ask for a volunteer the idea being that it's a build-within-a-build.

I'll have an entry but you'll all look winded if you don't contribute.

John Eaton may have contributed to this order.

To Mike Forney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0bGlUSz20

Hiller employed three of my cousins.

 

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Posted by Avus on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:25 AM
 jeaton01 wrote:

That is true, unless they are Italian, and then Dago Wop Wop Wop.

Thanks jeaton01 for clarifying the technique and the international standards!
I'll have to adapt this technique to the balcony (no yard for me!) and avoid incoming AA from hostile pigeons!

As for the badge I'll post a link to the resized image a few days before the build starts. This way we can wait for other proposals.

Klaus

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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:07 AM

holy crap ... I don't know if I'm coordinated enough to be apart of this GB!?! fwop fwop RRRRrrrrr ... ??? All I've ever known if Stomp, stomp, stomp, point tap, tap, tap ....

Maybe I could just get one of you guys to "fly" me around the yard ....

Drop off and pick at the nearest LZ anyone?  :)

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:37 PM
 Aaronw wrote:

Gaaah, helicopters don't go RRRRRRRRR, they go fwop fwop fwop. Evil [}:)] Big Smile [:D]

That is true, unless they are Italian, and then Dago Wop Wop Wop.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:30 PM
 bondoman wrote:
 lewbud wrote:

I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

I vomit out my crew door down onto your rotor, sir!Yuck [yuck]

And so it begins.My father made me promise (aeronautical engineer as he is) to never ever ride in one of these infernal machines, which have absolutely nothing to do with science.

It's like an elevator without a building. It's like an updraft without a parachute. It's like a train without rails. It's like positive pressure in an outhouse. Oh, never mind.

Captain Eaton, as my friend Keith who was a pilot in Hueys in VN always said, when you hear the pop, duck and get to know the collective like your mother. I may quit this mess yet, unless someone can explain to me how to run around my front yard with the finished model and make RRRRR noises. I'll probably trip and go endover into the pond. Oh, but the helo will flutter to earth. Not likely, AAARRRGGGHHHPirate [oX)]

 

Gaaah, helicopters don't go RRRRRRRRR, they go fwop fwop fwop. Evil [}:)] Big Smile [:D]

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:02 PM

Now, I am really upset at the inexperience being shown here!!.  Avast ye all, lest ye be run down the tail boom of the venerable H-19 with the tail shaft cover not in place!!

There is only ONE proper way to motivate a model rotorcraft around the front yard.  You must put your right thumb in your belly button, whilst holding said rotorcraft in the remaining digits of that hand, and looking down blow on both the main and tail rotors, else both main rotors in that type (for autogyros an electric power source or rubber band motor may energize the prop) so that the effect is convincing to onlookers.  While these things are being done, it is merely necessary to rub your hair (or pate, as the case may be) with your left hand and utter "Froom  Froom Froom" as you pivot around while running around in the limits of your yard.  There will be no spitting or drooling as that may mar the finish of your model.  If dizziness is imparted eventually, or other effect of being out of breath if you are not an accomplished operatic Bass, or Tuba player in a Polka or Mariachi band, you will eventually safely autorotate yourself to earth, transferring the model from your right to left hand as you descend withouth losing simultaneous contact with either belly button or head (pate).  Those of the left handed persuasionmay reverse the hand sequence, those who are ambidexterous may make the choice, but must state the choice in writing beforehand.

Quite simple, really, much easier than keeping the throttle correlated on any Bell or Hiller of the early days.  Those newbies who came along and have operated only turbine powered helicopters with the little hat switch to set the governor may have a bit more practice to do.  And then of course, those hydraulic fluid drenched persons like me who primarily worked on the wretched things and went through the contortions necessary to do that and flew them less frequently until later years will have no trouble whatsoever. 

So there, Bondoman, you have it.  There will be no easy out.  As to you being a lucky guy, surely it be so.  But is SHE a lucky girl?  Maybe in time, if your deportment improves in the latter  days.

Avus, thank you very much for the fine badge.  Make It So!!

Ludwig, I'll update the first post with your build.

Lewbud, you are on the roster.  Happy camping, and yes standards for entry are a bit loose, just like discipline in the typical helicopter unit.  Those officers really know better than to mess with the guys who tighten the "savior" nut.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:13 PM
 Avus wrote:

Wow! Nice to see some familiar faces or avatars and there are some interesting subjects.

Badge-proposal:

What do you think?!

Hey, yeah! I like it .... there's no Killer Egg (hater) but yea, I like it!

BTW, I'm going to need A LOT of help with questions during these builds. As stated on the helo forum earlier, us ground pounders know JACK about little flying thingys with spinner ... thingys. We just get rides and then hop out when the ground get close .... :)

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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  • From: london-uk
Posted by ludwig113 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:57 AM

ok here goes...this is my build,or it will be on the 1st of july.

i kind of like the gazelle as it was the first helicopter i flew in...

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  • From: london-uk
Posted by ludwig113 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:15 AM
 Avus wrote:

Badge-proposal:

What do you think?!

 

looks good to meThumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:44 AM

 bondoman wrote:
Ouch. Actually, no, I met her in China on a hotel balcony and repaired her camera in an hour, flat, using the basics in my shoulder bag.

Cool.  It worked and continues to do so as far as I can tell.  You are a lucky man.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:17 AM

Wow! Nice to see some familiar faces or avatars and there are some interesting subjects.

Badge-proposal:

What do you think?!

Klaus

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:11 AM
Ouch. Actually, no, I met her in China on a hotel balcony and repaired her camera in an hour, flat, using the basics in my shoulder bag.
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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:44 AM
 bondoman wrote:
 lewbud wrote:
 bondoman wrote:
 lewbud wrote:

I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

I vomit out my crew door down onto your rotor, sir!Yuck [yuck]

And so it begins.My father made me promise (aeronautical engineer as he is) to never ever ride in one of these infernal machines, which have absolutely nothing to do with science.

It's like an elevator without a building. It's like an updraft without a parachute. It's like a train without rails. It's like positive pressure in an outhouse. Oh, never mind.

Captain Eaton, as my friend Keith who was a pilot in Hueys in VN always said, when you hear the pop, duck and get to know the collective like your mother. I may quit this mess yet, unless someone can explain to me how to run around my front yard with the finished model and make RRRRR noises. I'll probably trip and go endover into the pond. Oh, but the helo will flutter to earth. Not likely, AAARRRGGGHHHPirate [oX)]

Man, you really need to lay off the chili, or was that the rum?  Darn near ate through the blades whatever it was!  You really need to lay off that stuff, it does you no good.Laugh [(-D]  Do you think your wife would videotape you running round the yard making helicopter noises?

How do you think I seduced her???

Lots of alcohol.Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:19 AM
 lewbud wrote:
 bondoman wrote:
 lewbud wrote:

I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

I vomit out my crew door down onto your rotor, sir!Yuck [yuck]

And so it begins.My father made me promise (aeronautical engineer as he is) to never ever ride in one of these infernal machines, which have absolutely nothing to do with science.

It's like an elevator without a building. It's like an updraft without a parachute. It's like a train without rails. It's like positive pressure in an outhouse. Oh, never mind.

Captain Eaton, as my friend Keith who was a pilot in Hueys in VN always said, when you hear the pop, duck and get to know the collective like your mother. I may quit this mess yet, unless someone can explain to me how to run around my front yard with the finished model and make RRRRR noises. I'll probably trip and go endover into the pond. Oh, but the helo will flutter to earth. Not likely, AAARRRGGGHHHPirate [oX)]

Man, you really need to lay off the chili, or was that the rum?  Darn near ate through the blades whatever it was!  You really need to lay off that stuff, it does you no good.Laugh [(-D]  Do you think your wife would videotape you running round the yard making helicopter noises?

How do you think I seduced her???
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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:41 AM
 bondoman wrote:
 lewbud wrote:

I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

I vomit out my crew door down onto your rotor, sir!Yuck [yuck]

And so it begins.My father made me promise (aeronautical engineer as he is) to never ever ride in one of these infernal machines, which have absolutely nothing to do with science.

It's like an elevator without a building. It's like an updraft without a parachute. It's like a train without rails. It's like positive pressure in an outhouse. Oh, never mind.

Captain Eaton, as my friend Keith who was a pilot in Hueys in VN always said, when you hear the pop, duck and get to know the collective like your mother. I may quit this mess yet, unless someone can explain to me how to run around my front yard with the finished model and make RRRRR noises. I'll probably trip and go endover into the pond. Oh, but the helo will flutter to earth. Not likely, AAARRRGGGHHHPirate [oX)]

Man, you really need to lay off the chili, or was that the rum?  Darn near ate through the blades whatever it was!  You really need to lay off that stuff, it does you no good.Laugh [(-D]  Do you think your wife would videotape you running round the yard making helicopter noises?  I know some guys in the wardroom that would love to see that.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:25 AM
 lewbud wrote:

I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

I vomit out my crew door down onto your rotor, sir!Yuck [yuck]

And so it begins.My father made me promise (aeronautical engineer as he is) to never ever ride in one of these infernal machines, which have absolutely nothing to do with science.

It's like an elevator without a building. It's like an updraft without a parachute. It's like a train without rails. It's like positive pressure in an outhouse. Oh, never mind.

Captain Eaton, as my friend Keith who was a pilot in Hueys in VN always said, when you hear the pop, duck and get to know the collective like your mother. I may quit this mess yet, unless someone can explain to me how to run around my front yard with the finished model and make RRRRR noises. I'll probably trip and go endover into the pond. Oh, but the helo will flutter to earth. Not likely, AAARRRGGGHHHPirate [oX)]

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:15 AM

Pam,

If you slip over to the helo forum, they've got a stickie on Vietnam era Hueys.  It's a the top of the list.

Admiral,

I'd like to join this build, don't know what it'll be just yet (probably a Hind, maybe a Cobra I've been carting around for 20 some odd years).  I see you let that scurvy dog Bondo in so I guess you'll take just about anybody.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, June 15, 2009 10:19 PM

Welcome aboard, Pam, I'll get you posted to a billet and on the roster.  Justin, if you go to Squadron Mail Order and do a search on UH-1  and 1/48 scale you will find resin sets for the UH-1D by Czechmaster and PE for the D by Eduard.  A lot will work for the B which I think is what is called the Hog. 

Cobra Company has resin improvements for the UH-1N, UH-1C, and several; AH-1 variants in 1/35 and 1/48.  I have used Cobra Company parts and highly recommend them.  I would go there first.

But frankly, with all the slang expressions used for hueys and their configurations, I get real confused real fast.  When I was in the Army Guard in a helicopter unit I was around Hueys and worked on them and rode around in them in addition to a main diet of CH-37's, but that was the beginning of the Huey epoch.  After 30 years of new types from Bell, endless in-service modifications to new major types like from D to H, I think you just have to decide to pick a picture and build what you see.  Feelings are so specific and strong within the Huey community, especially those who lived in and by them in Viet Nam, that no matter what you do you will come acropper somewhere with someone, but as long as we build Huey models we will still be honoring all of the people who know them well.

As I understand it the Revell model had both B and C attributes.  I am not a Huey expert at all though.

For references, I am told that the Squadron Walkaround on Huey Gunships is very good, here is one of many sources:

http://www.shopwiki.com/_Uh-1+Huey+Gunship+Walk+Around

For a general look at all Viet Nam era gunships Gunslingers in Action by Lou Drendel may be useful, but is not too comprehensive.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, June 15, 2009 7:35 PM

Does anyone have any ideas as to where I can go for some aftermarket Huey Hog?  I tried looking, but it seems that noone has anything...which I find hard to believe...

I am not necessarily going for100% historical accuracy, I really just want to make the revell kit a bit nicer...

If anyone also knows of  a place that I canget some figures to go along with the chooper, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Justin

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Monday, June 15, 2009 7:04 PM

Way to go Pam, and thank you for your service. We get a little crusty around here, but it's all in fun. Our fine pilot Mr. Eaton has not yet announced the entertainment, but it's usually pretty good. Welcome aboard.

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  • From: NYC
Posted by HM2 Somers on Monday, June 15, 2009 7:01 PM

Hello All,

I'd like to join the helicopter GB with my 1/35 Dragon UH-1D Huey that is really a UH-1H, I guess. I've had the kit since it came out so I really need to work on it plus I may need help from you guys with changes for the Vietnam H Huey. I know about the blades being to large, etc. but don't know what I'll do about an extra door gun mount as I'm too cheap to buy one from Cobra.

Pam

Yes, I am female and also a Vietnam era US Navy vet!

Pam

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