ARMOR - Sherman Family Group Build

QUOTE: Originally posted by beav hey, whats a BARV? whats it supposed to do ???????????????????????????????????

The BARV is a:

Beach
Armored
Recovery
Vehicle

The Sherman version was first used at Normandy.
It is used to recover vehicles which have become bogged down in the surf.

Robert,

I feel foolish to have to ask this, but........


What's the address to the site?



I've gone through several days of information and have not found it yet?

Thanks.



I found it.....

Here it is in case anyone else needs it too:

http://members.shaw.ca/ShermanGroup/

Thanks, Latch. It looks great.


Looking good, Therriman !

I don't think I did you guys and gals justice, but, I hit the road tom. and had to turn my final pics in. It is my opinion that you folks here are world class and I wanted to thank you for allowing me to glean information on all subject matter related to modeling. Major Rob and Robert have answered most of my questions in great detail since I first started posting almost a year ago. Robert has helped me tremendously along the way with the Sherman group build and without him my humble submission would not have been possible. Thanks Robert! I dedicate this "jumbo" (my first armor piece) to you. I also want to take this opportunity to thank Redleg and all the other men and women of the armed forces for serving and giving me the chance to sit on my but and build kits! Thank you all!
John

SITE UPDATE

Added Latch's excellent BARV to the site with a most comprehensive build description and short history of the BARV.

Beav - check out the group build site, Latch gives a good description of a BARV.
The addy is in my sigtag.

QUOTE: Originally posted by therriman Just goes to show how little I know about AFV's I take it I should have left them Gunmetal then??

Black with a light dusting of grey pastels...... the end connectors and guide teeth are just fine in gunmetal with a little rust on them.

Coming along nicely Tim !!!!

hey, whats a BARV? whats it supposed to do
???????????????????????????????????

Sherm:
Looks great. Thanks for the "how to" for the net.

Latch:
Love that BARV. now I want on

Tim:
Looking good! Keep it up.

Sherm:

That's really awesome. You really know how to make a presentation. The Tank itself looks great to me and the netting is just wonderful. Learned a thing or two from you today. Thanks.

Latch:

The BARV the only comment that I have is that "it's magnificent". Something unique for a sherman. Really looks cool.

Tim:

She's looking good at this stage. Should look really great when done. Keep us posted.

Great works. Could not ask for more on Monday morning.

Not really Gunmetal, but more like a very dark grey. Tamiya's Nato Black is pretty good for a start.

QUOTE: Originally posted by latch66 Therriman, The only thing I would suggest is that the Sherman tracks which you have are a rubber block version. They use a rubber block for the middle section. It should not have any rust on it. Easy enough to fix right now. Keep going. It's starting to look good!

Just goes to show how little I know about AFV's
I take it I should have left them Gunmetal then??

Therriman,

The only thing I would suggest is that the Sherman tracks which you have are a rubber block version. They use a rubber block for the middle section. It should not have any rust on it.

Easy enough to fix right now.

Keep going. It's starting to look good!

I finally got back to work on mine today. Here is where I'm at:




I know they look a little fuzzy. I have a cheap camera, and croped and resized the photos, and I shouldn't have done it.

I hope the tracks look ok. I put a gunmetal base with a rust wash and rubbed graphite (a pencil lead) on it. The front head light, guard, and hook attachment ring are simulating minor damage (as per Robert's suggestion on my broken guard). I decided to close the hatches after not being able to do a decent figure. I haven't decided how much more (skirts, acc, and etc) I'm going to put on it.

Robert and Latch your models are looking great.
mark956

QUOTE: Originally posted by Build22 Sherm, looks great !! Thanks for the scoop on the netting. Alot of work with that tape. Very realistic ! Latch, awesome ! Great job Great weathering ! Did you use a gray-brown wash or is that dry pastels ?

Thanks for the compliments all.



Build22,


I used both a brown "weathering powder" and a black oil wash. And a three step drybrushing process.

Sherm, looks great !!

Thanks for the scoop on the netting. Alot of work with that tape. Very realistic !



Latch, awesome ! Great job Great weathering !

Did you use a gray-brown wash or is that dry pastels ?

Thanks all for your comments on the Ram.

Latch & Jon - the Hessian tape netting has always intrigued me as a challenge to model. I have only seen it attempted once before, though I'm sure there are others too. Here's the steps I used to create it.

First I started with a heavy layer of prepainted cheese cloth to bulk in the netting. The netting was soaked in a mix of 50 / 50 white glue and water and then placed on the Ram. Next I took some medical tape and cut it into long thin strips, and then further cut it into short lengths. I like using medical tape because of the texture and also being that it has adhesive on the back, it sticks well to the model until everything is in place. By the time this step was done, the Ram looked like it had a serious fight with a straight razor.

Each strip of tape was then painted to match the netting.
The final step in creating this camo net was to apply another layer of glue soaked netting over top. This layer has to be much thinner than the previous netting. This is laid over the previous netting in small pieces and as it dries, the tape is lifted at various points to overlap and create the image of it being interwoven throughout the net. The final step is to drybrush the entire net with a lighter shade to create some depth. All told it took about 8 hours work to create the netting, really quite simple when you compare it to DML indy tracks.

Dan - the mud is a mix of white glue, artists acrylic Burnt Umber, model railway ballast, Woodland Scenics turf, and clippings from my last haircut. All mixed into a mess and crammed into the lower regions of the vehicle. After it dries, I scrub graphite onto it and then a heavy application of pastels. This model is going into a dio with the Firefly Ic, and will probably recieve a little more mud at that time.

The BARV looks great Latch !!!!!!

Constructive comments .... hmmm ...... let me see ....... okay, got it !!
{in my best whiney voice} I want a BARV !!!!!!!!!!! {sniff ..... sniff}

I think you have really captured the look of this "funny". A real pleasure to see.

Don't forget to email me some pics for the site and your build write up.

Robert, another great build, as usual. Latch, nice looking BARV. Thanks for sharing them with us lesser mortals.

Robert...just visited the site and saw the Ram...Beautiful job! The netting looks like it took some time to complete. What did you use for mud?

Latch, that is a greatlooking BARV. Your weathering is excellent...

Regards, Dan

WOW they all look great

Robert the Hessian netting looks fantastic, what did you use it looks so good

Latch your BARV looks great, it looks like its been in the English channel
great photos

Robert,

That Hessian tape looks cool. I will need to tap you knowledge on how to make it.

Well, the BARV is finally finished. I started at 8:30 this morning and have just finished.

Here's a peek.



Here's another.



And another.



As always, constructive comments are welcome and wanted.

This was not the easiest weathering job I've tried to tackle. Trying to weather a tank that spends half its life in water is not the easiest thing to envision of how it will weather. I took a stab at it.

I did learn one thing. The hardest thing about this kit is to get the "rope" to hang natural on the hull. And to get it snaked through all ten rings without breaking anything. And to get the last knot tied in the "rope". (That is until you learn the "secret" )

My hat goes off to our shipbuilding breatherin.

great job, robert!!!!! that is an awesome looking..... uh....... net!!!! jk. great work on the ram!!

That...is...VERY...cool....

Nice......very nice....

Murray

Peter .... dry your eyes, nothing much hidden on this build, except the bad lines of the kit itself. More detail work went into the camo netting on this one then anywhere else.

Sherm, all that great work and you've hidden it under a camo net! Brings tears to my eyes seeing such a work of art hidden away!

Ah well, I can still go back to the progress shots to drool over.

Well guys and gals ...... here's one of two that I decided to build for this Group.

The Canadian Ram O.P. decked out with Hessian tape camo netting.





More pics on the Group build site.

Murray, Mark956 and petbat - thanks



Latch - looking good - that is funky - great job

Derek, sounds like a plan.

Mike

latch the only comment I have is that BARV is an interesting looking "Sherman"

Chris saw your new pics they look great. I do like the one of the back deck with the carbine, field telly, empty ammo cans, and spent brass. Now that I'm finished with my sherman I'll go back and finish my M10. I'll keep you updated.

Robert I don't know if I've said it, but thank you for putting up that great web site to show off all our work.