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Soviet Union Group Build 2009-2010 - Closing SOON

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, October 23, 2009 1:12 AM

Randy -- I think I got mine the same way for something similar, but for about a year even then the MiGs were getting scarce, now the Yaks have thinned out too.

I have a watch on some PE flaps for the MiG, not sure if I'll go that road yet.

Basically we need to find a trader selling off a batch, we each need several more!

Mike

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, October 23, 2009 12:50 AM
Mike that date will be perfect for me Big Smile [:D] I just like the look of that scheme is why I choose that one, will have to do a lil research for giggles on it though. I got lucky with the MiG 3 I won it on Ebay for 7 bucks including shipping last year before the price gouging started up. I will keep an eye out though I saw some PE for the migs a while back well priced but didnt get it. I do still want to do a red wing with the NMF nose like the box art. Hopefully I will get lucky again.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, October 23, 2009 12:25 AM

I picked up the BTR 152 kit by ICM, 1/72 at the LHS today. Wow, it's pretty crude. But I figure if I'm going to do this GB right, a gaggle of models is in order. Order of the Red Star, that is! Figure to earn mine in the next week!

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 AM

Randy -- yep, looking good. I checked the decal sheet, "3A POAHHY" (For Rodnny -- not sure who he was) is the tenth scheme on the sheet, I'm looking at the eighth (3A CTALNH -- For Stalin.)

Not sure when I'll make a start, I'm thinking in the New Year. I have my Me 262 for Reich Defenders II moving along, I must get the paintjob onto my Thunderjet for NMF, I have a StuG IV for 1000 Roadwheels to finish, Corsairs was revitalised and extended so I should try to finish my F4U-1D, I have some models to do for articles, an M981 I was doing for fun that's ready for paint... Yep, I reckon in the New Year! That gives me time to grab the extras and keep an eye open for the Aeromaster sheets.

BTW, I just emailed the pilot of that Yak-9 flying down here to look for painting info. I also checked the website for ICM and their MiG-3, Yak-7 and Yak-9 kits are all out of the range at this time -- so keep an eye on eBay for extra examples!

Cheers,

Mike.TB379

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 PM

Mike sounds like we are stylin Big Smile [:D] I will order my canopy from squadron next week. The markings I will use is #8 on the kit decal sheet looks like 3A POAHHY. When were you planning to start yours ? I have an F-104 on the bench with a P-51 air racer on deck.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:01 PM

Hi Randy -- Sounds good. I'll be going with a closed engine bay and probably the Sqaudron canopy. Eduard make masks as well, they're a must. I searched eBay and Squadron last night, no luck on the Aeromaster sheets. I'll try the LDF experiment on the kit decals and see how they go, just a single marking from one of the schemes I'm not interested in. If it works okay then we can rock'n'roll with the kit sheet. If not we'll need to scrounge markings from elsewhere, or possibly do a custom job on some slogans and codes. If they're not white lettering it's not too hard. If they are... Angry [:(!]

Yes, the 12th Guards planes with the arrows are soooo iconic! Encore released their 1:72s in these markings, including the red wings version as well. I agree, it's hardly camouflage, but the experts seem to think it was done. Maybe it was a special marking that showed contempt for the enemy?

A white fighter is so unusual, I've never done a winter scheme yet, so that would really be attractive!

I'm also thinking of doing an ICM Yak-9. We have one flying here in Aus in squadron markings whose crest was a giant eagle clutching a Bf 109 in its claws! I got great reference photos when I saw the plane in action in February '07, and if I have the right -9 subtype in my stash (I'll need to check) it's an obvious project. The great news is Aeromaster have those markings (Falcons of the Red Star Part II) and I have a bid on that sheet on eBay right now.

Looking good, we need to get some bits and pieces together but we'll have some cool MiGs!

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:37 PM
Ranking as part of the GB sounds fun! I have several subjects that I want to build- tackling land, sea, and air subjects would be fun. First up I am gonna build the Alanger 1/350 Akula submarine kit.

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:02 PM

Thunderbolt how about we do the Red Arrows of 12 Guards Defence (PVO) of Moscow. It looks like there are 3 variants we can choose from. It will also force us to try out the Microscale decal saver as Aeromaster doesnt seem to offer these markings. After looking at the links and builds you posted ( spent last evening reading them) I am also thinking of doing an open cowling, I havent done this in the past but the detail just looks too cool. Microscale also offers a glue that allows removing a part that I may use on the cowling ( dont remember what they are calling it ). Anyway let me know which one you will build so we dont build the same one, anyone of them is fine with me. Mine will be built OOB with a few bits added for detail like wire and such and the vacufrormed canopy, want to be able to see the cockpit detail ya know.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by satch_ip on Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:06 AM

A whole hearted YES to the rankings.  I have made my first two choices.  The Dragon Malan Su 76 in 1/35 and a MiG I-270 in 1/72.  I have several more but let's start with those.

Satch

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:49 AM
hmmm, nice! although i dont think this is the one i was looking at online. that one is all resin, including the tracks...but same model! still, looks nice and i cant wait to see it finished. have you thought of a camo scheme for it yet? or are you going with boring old russian o.d.?? Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Sherman1111 on Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Resin with friulmodel metal tracks and lots of photoetch. I seperste the resin parts into plastic part dividers and so far I have 10 boxes, she is a beast
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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:02 AM
 Sherman1111 wrote:

I have't forgot, been busy wuth Dr's and Laywers = just got this in but I figure a year to build.

we will see how lonng the tunguska takes to build

jd

oooooo, Shock [:O] i was eyeballing this one from afar...let me know how it looks/goes together. it's all resin right? Tongue [:P]

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:58 PM
Sherman1111 great to se you back ! Dont let them lawyers and such get you discouraged they do take their own sweet time getting things done. But it will get done I am sure.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Sherman1111 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:43 PM

I have't forgot, been busy wuth Dr's and Laywers = just got this in but I figure a year to build.

we will see how lonng the tunguska takes to build

jd

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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:33 PM

 osher wrote:
Hey Tanker, you're really a tankie?  If so, I guess I am too - I used be a tankie on a Centurion, as the driver.  Now it's a museum piece!

     Ok, I think you out rank me in experience for sure. But, to asnswer your question, yes I was a Treadhead on M1A1 and M1A2 tanks for 6 years, being medically discharged in 2005. I did all 4 position on them, Driver, Loader, Gunner and Tank Commander(For all of 1 day, my TC was absent.)

     Sounds like people approve of the ranking system idea. So all put something together and present it soon.

See ya

Scott

 

 

 

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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:28 PM
 bondoman wrote:

Rank somehow makes perfect sense. This guy was a modeling animal!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:40 PM

Rank somehow makes perfect sense. This guy was a modeling animal!!

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Posted by sub revolution on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:00 PM

Ok folks, so here is my victim er, um, project for this GB, the Revell 1:48 SU 25 Frogfoot:

And here is what I have to deal with! I have started on some of the subassemblies, but am going "out of town," so you won't hear much from me for a little while.

NEW SIG

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:28 PM

Scott the ranking system sounds good to me Big Smile [:D] And yeah I think Thunderbolts idea for the stars would be great as I hope to get a second build in.

Thunderbolt thanks for the links. I do like the redwing winter fighters, but after reading one of the links I posted, those redwings dont seem right. They would stand out big time in the snow on the ground or in the sky, ( not a good idea for combat ). I would think that the green would have been more likely the true color. The red does look much better though. What are your thoughts.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:37 PM
Hey Tanker, you're really a tankie?  If so, I guess I am too - I used be a tankie on a Centurion, as the driver.  Now it's a museum piece!
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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:33 PM

No problem, osher. Changed it on the main post. Just wondering what scale?

And just so it is clear to everyone, you CAN change your kit at anytime.

Anyone else, want to chime in on the possible ranking system?

 

See Ya

Scott

 

 

 

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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:32 PM

Strewth Tanker, that must be a record - I change my build, and within seconds you've changed the front page.  Wow, what service!

Nice idea Thunderbolt for the stars.

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Posted by osher on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 PM

Slight change of plans:  I looked at the IS-3 kit, only to see it has a option for Egypt.  Ohhhh, must do that one!  My T-54 has a Polish option, which is nice.  So, time for something else.  I was very tempted by a variety of aircraft kits, but they all were either non-Soviet, or, in the case of the Havoc, in service post communism.  Then I found it, or them even!  Two Academy kits, one of the MiG-29, one of MiG-23.  Whilst no dates for either decal option, they seem to be Soviet era (red stars, no extraneous writing, etc).  So, either one, or the other, or, indeed, both for me!

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:48 AM

Hi Scott -- I had a quick count up and I have at least fifty kits appropriate to this build, so something tells me I'll knock off an extra one or two before the close date. May I suggest a line of small red stars on the badge to record the total number of builds... Kinda like the discrete stars that appear in the "P" in the Playboy logo... Big Smile [:D]

Randy -- great to see we have the same edition of the MiG-3 kit with the ten schemes. My info at the moment is there are good quality AM decals to be had on Aeromaster 48-313 and 48-314, so I'll be on the lookout for them, though it would still be worth doing the Liquid Decal Film treatment to see if the kit markings are any use before binning them.

Thanks for the links, great research data!

There's plenty of time for research and bringing the AMs together -- there's a first-rate cockpit set for this kit as well, Aires I think but don't quote me.

Here are some reviews of the kit and accessories:

http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/february/aviation/mig-3.htm

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Mig3.html

http://hsfeatures.com/features04/mig3tb_1.htm  <== This one's the kicker!

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelGallery/mig3_48.php

Yes, the winter schemes are iconic, and the red upper wings are that splash of color you don't usually find in military combat markings. The five schemes I'm interested in are that one, plus one of the all-white schemes with the red arrow down the fuselage, and three of the camo schemes -- the dark green/light green one, one of the green/tan loose-pattern examples, and the green/tan tight-pattern plus black 'tigerstripes' overall. There's plenty of challenge in that lot, and I'm not sure which to choose! The dark/light green scheme was featured in Trumpeter's 1:48 kit, which is probably very good, and should be for the price. They have a 1:32 as well.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:40 AM

Hey

      Bondo

                    Your in. Added you to the main post.

 

See ya

Scott

 

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:24 AM
Some versionof a BTR in 1/72, please. Crossover with the Bear trap and 8x8s.
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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:45 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:
 M1 A1 A2 Tanker wrote:

     Finally, from the beginning I want to do some kind of ranking system, so people could build more than one kit if they desired. But I didn't want to propose it then because I was not sure how much interest this GB would have. 

So I guess what I'm asking is what does everyone think about adding a ranking system?

Thanks

Scott

 

Scott I dont really understand what you mean by a ranking system, call me dense I dunno. You would rank someone by number of models built for the group ?

Hey,

      Randy

            I think the best way to explain is by example. So take a look at this link to the main post for dupes 1,000 Roadwheels GB, that is where I got the idea.

/forums/1036814/ShowPost.aspx

Thanks

Scott

 

 

 

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:05 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:
 M1 A1 A2 Tanker wrote:

     Finally, from the beginning I want to do some kind of ranking system, so people could build more than one kit if they desired. But I didn't want to propose it then because I was not sure how much interest this GB would have. 

So I guess what I'm asking is what does everyone think about adding a ranking system?

Thanks

Scott

 

Scott I dont really understand what you mean by a ranking system, call me dense I dunno. You would rank someone by number of models built for the group ?

 

Better go get another 1/2 dozen ruskie models on payday then Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:33 PM
 M1 A1 A2 Tanker wrote:

     Finally, from the beginning I want to do some kind of ranking system, so people could build more than one kit if they desired. But I didn't want to propose it then because I was not sure how much interest this GB would have. 

So I guess what I'm asking is what does everyone think about adding a ranking system?

Thanks

Scott

 

Scott I dont really understand what you mean by a ranking system, call me dense I dunno. You would rank someone by number of models built for the group ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by M1 A1 A2 Tanker on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:05 PM

Hey

    Everyone

          Just want to give an update on this GB. First, with newest participant "camo junkie" we have 14 modelers signed up including myself. Make a Toast [#toast]

          As this is the first GB I'm running. I would like to thank all of those who have signed up and will sign up later. Also, although I know this is covered in the main post I want to go over some of the rules:

1.) Soviet subjects, only. So anything from 1917 to 1991 in Soviet markings. (If it had markings.)

2.) Partial builds and Crossovers, OK.

3.) Start date: NOW or when you fell like it but must be done by June 30th, 2010.

     End date: June 30th, 2010.

     Join by date: NONE! So join anytime.

4.) Most important rule: HAVE FUN!!!!

     Also, WIP pics are highly encouraged but not required. The only rules I'm really strict about are #1 and #4, especially #4!Big Smile [:D]

     Finally, from the beginning I want to do some kind of ranking system, so people could build more than one kit if they desired. But I didn't want to propose it then because I was not sure how much interest this GB would have. 

So I guess what I'm asking is what does everyone think about adding a ranking system?

Thanks

Scott

 

 

 

 

“Computers are like Old Testament gods; lots of rules and no mercy.”  ~ Joseph Campbell

 

 

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