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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, June 7, 2010 10:21 PM

Soulcrusher looking good, the engine detail is really good if its OOB and I have seen much worse in the way of seams.  The cowls always look a bit different from the fuse on real aircraft so I like the darker cowl effect.  Yes

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, June 7, 2010 11:29 PM

So this one is Suppressions fault.....

After he posted up the pic of the NMF Spit i thought "cool" so i had a look around the net knowing that the RAAF had a number of NMF Spits...Anyway i got sidetracked from my initial search and got a warm fuzzy for this...

My LHS has the 48scale for $30 (hobbyboss) and Aussie decals have decals so i'm doing one...

Thanks Jason...Tongue Tied

 

 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 12:57 AM

Randy from what I have seen any of the alluminum panels that were subject to alot of heat would usally be a bit darker than the other so I figured I would darken up the cowl a bit with the black primer. It should break up the monotone finish a bit. I am thinking of primering most of the model in a meduim grey and then mabye primer controls surfaces in white.

Julez that should be a nice build with all of that wing area to show off the NMF!

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 1:50 AM

Julez72

So this one is Suppressions fault.....

 

Thanks Jason...Tongue Tied

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/3207/medium/mirage-40.jpg

Supressionfire Bow Down Way to go buddy !!! What a terrible thing to be blamed for huh Jason Stick out tongue

Julez72 now I cant wait to see this build come together shuweeettt

Soulcrusher from what you have planned with the white, black and gray panels under the Talon paints this P-35 is gonna be something else ( rubbing hands together in anticipation)

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 3:45 AM

I've been following the discussion of the Hobbycraft P-35 with interest, as I have the raceplane edition of this kit -- a prime NMF subject. After my bad experience with HC two years ago I wasn't able to bring myself to quite trust them, buuuutt... I just started their Avia S-199 for IDF 2 and have been very pleasantly surprised -- so pleasantly I've already ordered another. If these moulds are typical of the Hobbycraft Bf 109 series, I sense some lower-cost Messerschmidts coming along. The fit is very nice, the plastic works well and the level of detail is most acceptable. The proof of the kit is in the building, and after 24 hours I'm appreciably along.

Obviously, I'll be monitoring the P-35 build closely -- if this one also builds well, my interest in the brand will be somewhat vindicated!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, June 8, 2010 7:03 PM

Mike I have a couple more in the stash. I have the 1/48 Me 109 B and a Spitfire Mk IX. The basic fit of the kit is pretty good. The decals are as thick as cardboard and these is alot of fine detail missing but for the price I think they are a good deal. A bit of scratch building mabye a little PE and some aftermarket decals and they can turn out pretty nice.

I have a bunch of seam sanding to do tonight on the P-35 trying to get the best finish I can for the NMF so probally not much to look at in the way of progress.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:18 AM

Looking forward to seeing all these builds come together!!!! Will be taking notes on all techniques!!! Looking great guys!!!

Shame on you Jason for coaxing another build out of a master builder!!!!Whistling

Eats

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:35 AM

simpilot34

Looking forward to seeing all these builds come together!!!! Will be taking notes on all techniques!!! Looking great guys!!!

Shame on you Jason for coaxing another build out of a master builder!!!!Whistling

Eats

I dunno about master builderTongue TiedPerhaps competent modelerYes....I'll be picking up that Mirage tomorrowStick out tongue

Hey i have a WIP Pic......

 

 

 

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:37 PM

Hey guys,

Just had a chance to get on the internet for the first time while i am visiting the US and i can see i will have a lot of catching up to do when i get back early next month. All of you are doing great jobs and i am almost drewling on my chair here. No plastic or glue at the cabin in the mountains where i am staying....*sniff*

Just wanted to say i take a peek whenever i can and i can't wait to continue on the P51 and B17...

Cheers from Wa.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, June 11, 2010 2:03 AM

Washington!!!! My sister lives just out side of Seattle!!! Beautiful wilderness country up there!!!!! Hope you are enjoying your stay in MY motherland. Have mentioned once lol, American by birth, Southern by the grace of God, and Aussie by choice!!!! Toast Glad to know you are in a pretty part of the US.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, June 11, 2010 4:58 AM

Yes i'm extremely jealous Richard, and Sim you just made it worse....I'm planning a trip to Washington next year but only for a couple of weeks....I'll be staying at the Smithsonian i recon cause once i'm in i'm not sure if i'll leaveYes.....I should be in your neck of the woods for Xmas holidays this year though Sim, planning on going to the RAAF museum at Point Cook, there's a ME262 and 163 down there too....

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, June 11, 2010 6:16 AM

Looking forward to hooking up with you hopefully!!! Ummmm, I believe the 163 and 262 are at the war memorial in Canberra.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, June 11, 2010 8:22 PM

Yeah definatly Sim, I'li be flying solo on that trip (missus isn't interested) so we'll catch up for a cold oneYes So the Me 262 and 163 are at Canberra eh, might have to make a slight detour on the way.....

So i got the Mirage 111 from HobbyBoss and i'm happy with the quality oob, some excellent detail although the rivet detail is a little strong but i think with the surface prep needed for a NMF with all the undercoats it should be ok....The HB kit seems very similar to the Eduard version so i'm contemplating ordering a PE set for the office, Highplanes models do a nice decal set for three versions of 75SQD none of them are for the NMF version but i'll have enough to do A3-32.....This will be my first fast jet and i'm looking forward to getting stuck inYes

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 12, 2010 4:24 PM

Julez, I have both Mirage III kits, Hobbyboss and Eduard. Compared side by side the two kits are nearly identical part wise and just appear to be different surface detail wise. If there is a PE set for one, it should fit the other.

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, June 12, 2010 4:55 PM

Is it too late to join in?  I've been poking around the site for a while and figured I ought to try a group build. 

I think this one would be a good fit, my next project is the old Hasegawa 1/72 scale B-47 kit. Dad saw the kit at the model show we went to earlier this year and fell in love it.  Now every time I mention model airplanes, he asks if I have started his plane yet!!

OWL

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:27 PM

OWL,

vetteman42 is a very cool easy going dude! Of course he will let you join, in fact I believe Peter Fonda's character on 'Easy rider' was loosely based on vetteman!

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:05 PM

Julez72 me thinks you are more than a "Competent " builder because that P-51D of yours just keeps looking better and better each time I see it. Wish mine looked half as good.

Kermit I can tell ya this group is building them fast and furious and all are outstanding builds too. I have a hard time keeping up with them.

CallSignOWL it would be a pleasure to have you join us with one of your fine builds. I have been watching your MiG build and cant wait to see your B-47. That MiG is coming along nicely too cant wait for the finish. Your build is in and will be posted in the line up on the front page this evening. With that being said Welcome Sign to the shiny side.

 

SuppressionFire

OWL,

vetteman42 is a very cool easy going dude! Of course he will let you join, in fact I believe Peter Fonda's character on 'Easy rider' was loosely based on vetteman!

Supressionfire How'd you know that have we met ? Cool

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Julez72 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:09 AM

stikpusher

Julez, I have both Mirage III kits, Hobbyboss and Eduard. Compared side by side the two kits are nearly identical part wise and just appear to be different surface detail wise. If there is a PE set for one, it should fit the other.

Hey Stik, Thanks a bunch for that info buddyYes I'll order that PE set, it usually takes 10 days to get my orders from Squadron so i'll get that P-51 and 38 done in the meantime...thanks againToast

Owl, Welcome Sign to the GB, looking forward to seein some more of your workYes

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:27 AM

Fine builds still coming out of the woodwork!!! OWL I have that same kit and am looking forward to seeing your progress and taking notes!!!!

I went to a mate's place today to gobble up a few kits he wanted to get rid of and came back with a kit that was started but didn't give a .......well didn't care!!! KBC 1/72 727!!!!! The kit has American Airlines decals, the first time I had EVER seen that scale 727 anywhere and now have it in my possession!! Quite happy bout that lol. No, I am not committing a build yet but had to tell somebody lol. Got the Academy 1/72 B-29 Bock'sCar and Stratocruiser as well. Pushing the GB commitments but if I can I will surely do one for here!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:35 PM

Ok so i dry fit the Jug together over the weeked and i have a couple questions...arent the wings on a p-47 meant to be straight?...yeah thats pretty much my only question, kinda dreading this build, the fit is utterly terrible. ill try get some photos uploaded tonight.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:47 PM

Sweet! Thanks for letting me in!

OWL

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:08 PM

Scorpiomikey actually the P-47 does have quite a bit of dihedral in the wings and I think the Testors kit comes pretty close to being right in that respect. Heres a link with some pictures of the real thing, you will be able to see the angle of the wing fairly well in a few of the shots.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Republic%20P-47%20Thunderbolt

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:56 PM

Oh yeah i know about the dihedral, but the wing itself is normaly straight right? it doesnt curve downwards?

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:21 PM

Scorpiomikey sounds like it might be warped, shouldn't curve down. Can you post a picture of it ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:58 PM

yeah ill see what i can do tonight, ill have a closer look to make sure it not just my eyes too.

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, June 14, 2010 12:29 AM

simpilot34
Pushing the GB commitments but if I can I will surely do one for here!!!

Come on Richie, you know you want too, and so do weYes seriously though there's still just over 10 months to go......BTW good score, i imagine a 1/72 727 would be a big model.....

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, June 14, 2010 4:23 AM

Julez72

 simpilot34:
Pushing the GB commitments but if I can I will surely do one for here!!!

 

Come on Richie, you know you want too, and so do weYes seriously though there's still just over 10 months to go......BTW good score, i imagine a 1/72 727 would be a big model.....

Yep, almost as big as the KC-135.

Got pics of the model show, will be posting some soon. Lots of great builds!!!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, June 14, 2010 1:46 PM

Love to see a 1/72 727 in AA colors!  If'n you don't want it, I'll take it!! Wink

  

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:17 AM

Starboard wing warp

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Is it actually warped or is it just me?

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:31 AM

It's warped! Okay, my solution, that I used successfully on a Hasegawa Mustang with wing warpage many years ago, goes like this:

  1. Disassemble the parts and use metal clips to attach them to an engineer's steel ruler (straightedge), this forms a template to force them straight.
  2. Immerse the parts and rule all together into a dish or sink of very hot water for a good five minutes.
  3. Allow to cool, or immerse in a dish of cold water; repeat a couple of times.
  4. Remove from ruler and eyeball for effect -- repeat again if necessary.

While the result might not be absolutely percfect, the possibility is that any remaining warpage in the top and bottom parts will be running against eachother, therefore when you join the parts they'll probably cancel eachother out, leaving you with straight wings or an off-true factor so small the eye can't spot it. The heat effect migth cause the metal clips to mark the surface, so you'll possibly have some refinishing to do with whatever your prefered technique is -- CA and adze is the one I've used mostly.

Hope this helps,

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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