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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:26 AM

It's not easy being greenClown

#$#% straight!!! Big Smile

Thanks I've heard a lot of good stuff about the Hobbyboss F4Fs but it's not really the price as much as trying to get a handle on my stash. It's already about the size of Mount Fuji and quickly climbing to the size of Everest.

 And now the US company of Squadron has the Hawagawa 1/32 P-47D on sale for about 60% off starting next month. I don't need another P-47, I must not buy another P-47,  but still it's casting a voodoo spell on me forcing me to buy it. Devil

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:44 AM

Gamera

Simpilot: No worries friend, I certainly don't mind being confused with a modeler as good as Kermit. Guess since we're both green we're easy to confuse.... Wink

....and both amphibs!!!! Propeller

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by kermit on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:48 AM

...So we can also rephrase that as :"It's not easy having green"...Propeller

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:52 AM

kermit

...So we can also rephrase that as :"It's not easy having green"...Propeller

Richard

... would explain the large stash!!!Propeller

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by kermit on Friday, July 30, 2010 2:10 PM

Hmmm... might be fun (although offtopic) to hear about your personal stash count... I just counted 28 plastic kits in my stash of all disciplines (armor, planes and ships).... Maybe a Mt. Suribachi?Wink

Anyways...

I worked on the decalling tonight and taking a little break whilst about halfway through... These decals are great and release easily from the sheet but they are rather thin and don't really wanna move once theyre on.... To illustrate the problem i encountered just now i will repost a pic i showed earlier:

As you can see the upper and lower wings will receive diagonal lines from the gun roots all the way across the wing. Trying to apply one of the upper wing stripy things i curled it up, rendering it useless. I am now forced to paint them on instead...Embarrassed Being tired from work i will postpone that untill the morning. Pretty confident i can solve it with little effort...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 30, 2010 3:16 PM

kermit

...So we can also rephrase that as :"It's not easy having green"...Propeller

Richard

Very well put, I happen to resemble that remark... Stick out tongue

 

Simpilot: Not to quibble but actually I am a reptile not an amphibian. Unless you mean not the amphibian the animal but as a term to mean something that operates on land and in water. In which case I would be an amphibian reptile. Or something like that, I'm confused now.... Dead

Richard: sorry to hear about the decal, dang but the long thin ones are a pain. Looking forward to seeing her all decaled up.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, July 30, 2010 5:09 PM

Nice work Kermit! Your paint work looks nice and smoooth! Big Smile  Shame about the decals but I'm sure a fine modeler such as yourself will have no troubles painting those stripes. Yes

Gamera - Your little(?) B-29 looks like it's packed full of detail. Nice job of making it stand out! Should be a treat to see it all together!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, July 30, 2010 8:05 PM

 

I finally received my little package from Squadron. True details resin cockpit and wheels for the P-59.

I wanted the resin wheels to replace those horrible, plastic melting rubber tires that come with the kit. As you all know, when searching for one little thing for a kit, you always end up with some more! Big Smile  I don't know how much of the cockpit will be visible when the kit is finished but I'm glad that I bought the resin pit. Much more detailed!

I think I'll be building her as ol' Smokey Stover. Pretty cool! Cool 

This kit has lots of ejector pin marks so cleanup will be a hassle, especially being a natural metal plane.

I just finished building a plane for my friend and I'm trying to get a little work done to my FW-190 now but hopefully I can show some progress soon!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, July 30, 2010 9:28 PM

Looks like you have all the fixin's for a nice build there Jeremy. I don't recall seening any other P-59's being build anywhere. It should make for an itresting subject.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:36 PM

Richard, pity bout the stripy thingy. Those stripes shouldn't be too hard to mask up and paint!!! Looking forward to seeing your results!!Toast

Jeremy, she looks like a nice lil build is going to be happening soon!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:24 PM

Getting started on my B-36.  I bought this kit off eBay several years ago and was a bit concerned when I started going through the parts and was not seeing everything.  Great, I'm thinking, this same thing happened to a B-35 I tried to build recently.  But upon closer inspection of the parts and comparison against the instructions, I verified that all parts were in fact present.  Good news for me.

So I've done a lot of test fitting and have detailed-up the bomb bay and painted the interior parts olive drab.  I don't have any reference photos in color from B-36s in actual use showing if the interior was olive drab or zinc chromate, but I have photos of a restored B-36 where the color appears to be olive drab.  So I went with that.

I loaded up the bomb bay with wiring per the reference photos I have.  My work is not an exact match to the photos but I really just wanted to achieve a suitably "busy" look.  Some photos of my bomb bay work appear below.

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:15 PM

Jmabx,

Those are nice goodies you orderedSmile They will undoubtedly enhance the final model. Just a quick curious question though: I have never worked with resin aftermarket stuff; what do you glue it with? Ordinary modeling styrene glue or CA? Looking forward to this rare bird....Yes

Aggieman,

Wow, that must have taken some time to do... I admire your patience and it looks great sofar. By all means keep going LOL.

As for my humble attempts at modeling i can announce the decalling done on my wildcat. Had to paint on the port side upper wing stripes as i mentioned before but it went quite ok. Also installed the landing gear assembly and antennae to my model. Next up will be the antenna wires and finalizing the build. Guess it will take me another hour or so...:

As for the spinner... Ahem...Embarrassed

Kinda been a bit daft because i applied some decals to the back of the spinner as opposed to the front.... What was i thinking....: Forgot to turn the spinner around in the clamp i had it in for the decalling....

Hope you guys still like it after the laughing at my mistake lmaoWink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by NiceFit on Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:43 PM

Sorry folks, I've been on hiatus while waiting for my repaired airbrush and new Flex-i-File tools to arrive in the mail. The former arrived quickly, the later arrived almost two weeks late. I could have made minimal progress in the meantime but opted to go sailing instead. Now that both items are here, I'll be back at my AT-6 Texan shortly…

You all have made some great progress over the past few weeks. I've enjoyed reading all the WIP posts, seeing all photos, and hearing about the successes and setbacks. This is a fun group with lots of talented and supported members. Kudos to you all. Good to be back.

vetteman - I hope you didn't lap me with your Texan build… lol

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by maxfax on Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:32 PM

Hello everyone,

I finally got my camera and I am posting the finished P-47 and a WIP of the P-51. I have to say that I am the most satisfied with the result of the P-47 than any of my other planes(well, there are only 4!) I hope to have the P-51 done hopefully next week.

Thanks,

Rob

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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:38 PM

vetterman42,

The smell of fall and football also means the smell of glue has finally arrived for me!

After a long hiatus I will finally start my P-47 "Kansas Tornado" on Sunday. Took me a couple hours with breaks to catch up on all the updates. LOT's of great builds and tips.

IBuildOne48

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:47 PM

I'm still trucking along over here. Ive gotten most of the ID stripes applied now, but had to re-do the set on the undersides--the curve of the mustang made for some tricky masking and the stripes came out crooked!!    But the ones on the wing came out nice for my first attempt!  Smile

Maxfax and Kermit, those planes look outstanding!!  I'm hoping that one day my finishes will turn out as great as yours!  Toast

OWL

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:59 PM

Richard the Wildcat looks superb!!! lol really if you hadn't told me , I wouldn't have noticed about the decals on the prop. I know how you feel though, you get so frustrated with yourself you have to tell people lol. S'ok though I think most of us have been there a few times. Looking forward to seeing her finished!!!Toast

Rob, your birds are looking great!!!! Very nice to see the Jug finished!!!! Looking forward to seeing the Mustang finished up soon as well!!Toast Just a quick question about the stripes. Are the flaps down or is there actually a canted angle on the stripes on the flaps?? Just curious.

 

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:04 PM

Owl don't worry to much about the strips being perfect. These strips were added in the field in the begining by anyone who could hold a brush. Later onmany planes had them painted on alot neater but even then they were not always perfectly straight.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:14 PM

thanks soulcrusher,  I was aware of the haphazard-ness of the stripes---which is why I didn't fuss too much about the wings stripes being just a tad off--but the belly ones were very noticeable!!  Embarrassed

Ive been learning alot by being in this Group Build,  Thanks guys!!

OWL

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:23 PM

Wow guys!

Steven: I love the wiring in the bomb bay. I guess I should have done the same to my B-29 but as I said I'm just going to build her out of the box. If I can get the NM to work out smoothly I'll be more than happy.

Richard: the F4F looks great! As I said the colour scheme is very eye-catching. Much more than the blue and white even though I like them as well.

MaxFax: wow, both Polly and the P-51 look tremendous! Flawless natural metal finish and I love the sharp looking cowl on Polly and the gas stains on the drip tank.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:28 PM

I knew I forgot something a bit earlier.Embarrassed Steven , the work in the bombbay looks great!!! There is enough there to busy it up a bit, perfect.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:37 PM

Rob,

Very well done P-47!

IBuildOne48

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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:57 PM

I absolutely love that Wildcat, P-47 and P-51!  Like the Cat so much I'm thinking of doing one of my Cats from the stash in that scheme.

Having just returned from celebrating my MIL's birthday, I decided to see if the 18-year-old decals in my kit would still be usable, might as well know now.  So I cut out the IP decals, dipped 'em in water, and let 'em sit for a while.  They didn't disintegrate but they did seem reluctant to leave their paper backing at first.  Happily, they laid down fine on the IP pieces and are now curing with some decal setting solution.

I also installed the bomb racks and filled an ugle seam at the connection points of those racks that ran all the way along the surface just inside the bomb bay doors.  Would have been very noticable and I just couldn't allow that to pass.

As an aside, this is a kit that I've never built.  Actually I've never built a B-36.  I was just entering my teen years when this kit was first released and declined my dad's offer to get it for me that year for Christmas (he had given me all of those big Monogram bomber kits in previous Christmases) - I think at the time I just wasn't interested in building models any more, as baseball, football and girls were taking center stage (and not necessarily in that order).  Now I feel like I'm finishing something I began many years ago.

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 1, 2010 12:25 AM

MaxFax,

What can i say....?IndifferentBow DownBow DownBow Down You are showing what a NMF should look like! Flawless and gorgeous builds. I take my hat off to you in awe and amazement!

Well, she's done!Big Smile. It was a very welcome and fun build after the horrors of my Korean war F51...:

For fun and giggles i placed my later F4F3 alongside my new prewar one:

Thanks to all of you for your continuous support and kind comments. I am glad you guys like what i doYes

Soooo..... I guess that means there's no excuses left for me Vetteman.... I am pretty much scared sh*tless (pardon my dutch) but i am going to foil myself a mig!Wink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:13 AM

Richard that looks stunning mate!!!!Toast Very nicely done!!!! Don't sweat the foiling mate trust me. I honestly am scared sh*tless to do a NMF paint  than I am foiling!!! You still have to get the plastic right but rather than stripping paint, if it ain't right just peel it off lol. If it's stubborn than sanding /debonding with plastic friendly stuff. After seeing the Wildcat, you'll do fine foiling!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 1, 2010 4:02 AM

Thanks simpilotWink. Scared or not, i always look forward to new things and i am quite eager to give it my best shot.

Ok, it's sunday morning here, empty agenda and no shiny stuff to work on.... I just gotta start my new project LOLEats... Just took some time reading about the subject, studying internet reports about this model and i'm ready as i'll ever beSmile....i think

Customary introduction photo's:

Yes, umm..... that's about what you get in the boxConfused. It's an oldie but i am told it still builds up to a nice model. Kinda lacking on detail on the insides but for 11 Euro's i shouldn't complain. Besides, it's the outside and it's finish that is important to me.

As you can see the decalsheet is pretty much useless.... Luckily enough i have a sheet with aftermarket Mig15 decals from when i did the Tamiya migBig Smile.

With this low parts count i will probably be done with initial construction in no timeWink Keep watching!

Richard

 

 

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 4:13 AM

Looking forward to seeing her come together Richard!!!! Glad you aren't using the decals, looks like they are already shattered!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jmabx on Sunday, August 1, 2010 7:37 AM

Steven - Nice work so far! Getting things even a little busy inside makes a world of difference when it's done. I really can't wait to see this monster come together! Yes

Kermit - Man, I just can't keep up with you... let me catch my breath! Big Smile  Excellent work on the Wildcat!!! The pair of them make for a good lookin' couple! Cool  The old MiG looks like it will be a great canvas for foiling. I'll be watching closely on this one! Big Smile

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Posted by kermit on Monday, August 2, 2010 1:42 PM

A quick question for the foiling guru's on here{;)].

Working on my mig i failed to realize that all of the panellines, rivets and hatches are raised... Took me 48 hours and just finished filling and sanding the fuselage (pit was exactly 5 parts LOL) before noticing that might be a problem...? Have you guys foiled such a plane with succes or am i too cautious/ concerned about the whole raised detail thing?

I can always order a newer molded mig  and finish this one with an interesting painted camo but i just thought i might run it by you guys first...

Thanks in advance,

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, August 2, 2010 7:19 PM

More progress on the Peacemaker - I've completed the office and bomb bay and have sealed everything up in the fuselage.

A couple of shots of the cockpit:

A shot of the lower deck:

Bomb bay shots:

Fuselage layouts:

Weathered bomb bay bulk heads:

Everything's all sealed up with drafting tape holding everything together:

This kit is typical of Monogram kits of the era, good detail, decent but not great fit, and I'm really enjoying this build (having never built this beast).

 

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