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Posted by IBuild148 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:33 PM

That turned out really nice Randy. Yes PROPS!

I have 5 of these and I really want to build one soon in the yellow scheme. Maybe this will motivate me to start.

 

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:31 PM

Hey everybody,

Been away for a couple of weeks but i am back and eager to continue on my Academy P38Smile I already joined the pit to the lower wing and just now i have completed the nacelles:

While i can still easily handle them, i think it is best to do some seam filling and sanding on them before i try to close up the fuselage and wings. Wip pics soon gents!

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:57 PM

Randy - LOVE the Texan! Think I may have to pick one or two up for the stash...hmm...

Richard - I must've missed up-thread, is this P-38 a 48th? I've got Academy's P-38F in the stash now, in addition to the Revellogram on the bench, so I'll be watching this one with interest!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:02 PM

Not much progress on the Jug the past few days. A bit of sanding, a bit of priming...still have a more filling and sanding before I can even think about paint.

But...things are moving forward on the Lightning. Got the cockpit all glued up and I'm trying to figure out where to move on to next! Here are some pics from the other night before assembly. Not a lot to work with in the pit, and I wasn't feeling like diving hardcore into adding scratchbuilt detail (outside levers for the throttle quadrant), but I think these may be my best seatbelts yet!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:35 PM

Thanks guys for all the kind words, its this kind of encouragement that makes us all better modelers.

Julez72 sorry buddy, I will be keeping this build, I have a PT-20 to park next to it Big Smile Course I have to build it first.

Kermit !! hey our lil green buddy is back with us and has survived the madness Wink You do have a good start on the P-38 cant wait to see what fun you have with it.

DoogsATX those belts are very nice indeed Toast Did you make them with tape and PE buckles ? I think you would really like the AT-6 kit it is a nice one and fun to build. Hey ya know it would fit right into a yellow wing group build too Devil

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by raptordriver on Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:39 PM

Randy! Wow this has turned out to be an outstanding GB! Great work, I would like to build another shiny plane( no promises). Great work! Amazing success rate! I have my sunglasses on!

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:41 PM

Raptordriver hey buddy you know you are welcome in this group anytime, would love to see another of your builds here.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:43 PM

Got a small parcel of AM goodies fro the postman today!

I got my 4th AM add on for my Hasegawa 1/32 Starfighter F-104G, the Eduard exterior PE set. Now this has a couple of double ups on the Aries exhaust set, and more than likely some double ups on my soon to be delivered Verlinden cannon and cockpit set (the 5th and final piece of the AM puzzle!) but I should have a crazy AM build. Perhaps I should run it in a parallel AM Madness GB!

I was looking for some detailed wheel bays but this set has some nice features for the front wheel, including PE doors and electrical wiring.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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  • From: Hobart, Australia
Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, November 15, 2010 3:02 AM

Can anyone tell me what the technical name for the grills I have circled in red? Out of all the AM I seem to have collected for the 1/32 F-104 there is no PE or resin replacement for this part. It seems a shame to leave the plastic part form the kit for such a potentially detailed part. Trouble is I don't know the name of the part to search for an AM solution.

Any help would be most welcome!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, November 15, 2010 4:05 AM

You guys are killing me with all this P-38 lightning talk......I boxed mine after this little mishapBroken HeartCrying

Tis what happens when you don't give the undercoat time to cureBang Head

 

 

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, November 15, 2010 8:11 AM

whats wrong with it?

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Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, November 15, 2010 8:26 AM

CallSignOWL

whats wrong with it?

Ditto With all this P-38 talk, I thought for a second I was viewing the P-38 GB Confused

Randy - Great job on the Texan!  You forced me to go buy one of these kits Stick out tongue

  

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, November 15, 2010 8:32 AM

Nice work on the Texan Randy! Toast 

Sorry I haven't been around much lately but I have a little bit of progress to report. The sleek little Airacomet has been decaled and given a dark wash so far. On the home stretch now!

 

Closeup of the nose art... pretty cool! Smile

Julez - Sucks about the P-38! A few years ago, I built a beautiful Mb-336 in Australian colors, orange and white with a silver underside. I did the same thing and didn't let the undercoat fully cure before spraying the silver over it. Angry  At least it was on the underside so it's well hidden! Wink

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, November 15, 2010 10:14 AM

Casper those are actually louvers not screening behind and along one side of the nose gear bay, here are a couple of pictures for ya.

I remember seeing PE louvers a while back I think for car but cant remember who made them. In the second picture I remember Dad saying that air flowed over the 104 in a strange way, so I found the stains interesting. I also thought you would find the panel coloring under the ejection seat useful. Looking forward to this big build for sure and hope this helps you out.

Julez72 its hard to see whats wrong from the picture, but to me the surface looks a tad rough ? But not bad I dont think. maybe a light wet sanding to smooth it out and a coat or 2 of Alclad would fix it ? I hate to see it go unfinished, lotsa nice work you did on the model ya know.

Jmabx oh man thats a sweet finish, smooth as silk it looks to be. Cant wait to see her finished and yes I really like the nose art you have chosen YesYes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, November 15, 2010 3:35 PM

Thanks Vetteman, I had a look at the fuselage and it look like the louvres run parallel to the port side of the front wheel bay.

There is also another small louvre towards the tail fin on the upper fuselage as well. Nothing behind the wheel bay at all they didn't even try. The Eduard sets are pretty complete but it is odd they didn't at least inlcude one louvre.

BTW thanks for the ref shot of the airflow stains, I will definitely include that

Jmabx like the bird, nice metals. What did you use?

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by jmabx on Monday, November 15, 2010 5:22 PM

Casper - I used Alclad which I really love! Yes

I stayed home sick today so I decided to finish her instead of laying on the couch.

Have a few pics! Stick out tongue

















Sorry for the wierd purple color. One of my lights blew out and all I had left was one of those "reveal" lights.  Tongue Tied

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, November 15, 2010 5:41 PM

Oooh! that looks nice!! great job.

one question for you Alcad users...how do you get the decals over that? do you apply a gloss coat? but then your plane is flat and I thought you could not apply a flat coat on NMF without ruining it? Or do you apply decals directly to the paint??

Thanks!

OWL

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:45 AM

Jmabx wow thats a top notch build Bow Down A beautiful finish, a very nicely detailed cockpit, love the markings you chose too. And no glare in any of the pictures, not an easy thing to do either. Did you use a wash to bring out the panel lines or is that how the alclad brings them out. The only thing I can find wrong with your build is, it isnt sitting on my shelf, very well done indeed. YesYes

Now for the really tough part picking out which pic to put on the front page.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:14 PM

jmabx - LOVE IT! Great job all around. I'm particularly impressed with your canopy masking. Top notch! 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by kermit on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:25 PM

Owl,

Usually a good NMF paintjob will give a babybutt smooth finish like gloss so you can decal over that. The real problem is the subsequent paint layers like the anti glare panels for instance. Without some kind of coat i noticed that alot of people suffer from the alclad peeling off after tearing the masking off.

So yes, i would advise a gloss coat. Personally i use future. One bottle will last you for years to come. Alot cheaper than the varnishes the paint brands sell. Not that they are bad....

Jmabx,

What can i say. Your builds always seem to come out flawless... I envy you sir...Yes Great work!! I would strongly suggest applying for the gallery with this build. Seriously.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:55 PM

thanks for clearing that up for me Kermit!

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Posted by kermit on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:38 PM

You are welcome OwlWink Were all here to learn and i am no exception. Every model i see on here learns a lesson, big or small.

Just wanted to show you the progress sofar... Wings and fuselage are fitted and sanded. Tonight i have added the tail wing and the nose section. Still needs filling and sandingSmile. Almost done constructing. I have to say that there is minor seamwork but sofar i haven't had the slightest hint of misalignment and the likesBig Smile

Oh and btw, this bird really likes weight in the nose. I added more than the instructed 20 grams in the nose and it is juuuuust sitting right on the front wheel. Got lucky there....

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:22 PM

Richard...geez. I've managed to get the cockpit of my Lightning done, and you're already gearing up for paint! 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by jmabx on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 4:47 PM

Thanks for the compliments everyone!!! Beer

OWL - Kermit is right, the NMF is usually so smooth that you can lay the decals right on it. I've never had a problem with the Alclad lifting off with masking tape though... tuff stuff! I did put a flat coat over the Airacomet as an experiment to see if it would work. Think I got the idea from Julez. I usually just decal over the Alclad and leave it alone but I didn't want the decals to be too shiny on this one. I went a little heavy on the flat coat but it looks nice and aged I think.

Randy - I gave her a panel wash with black acrylic thinned with water and dish soap. Some streaking across the wings too but it's hard to see after the flat coat. No shine = Testors Dullcoat Lacquer.

Doogs - Thanks! Your builds are freakin' awesome so I'm glad you like this one. The canopy has recessed panel lines like the rest if the kit. Super easy to mask, just lay tape over it and run a sharp Xacto in the groove. Can't mess it up if you try. Nicest feature about this kit! 

Kermit - Thanks buddy! I might try for the gallery but the competition is fierce! Wink

Thanks again!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:55 PM

I got my Verlinden Starfighter 1/32 Update today and it contains some ok resin cockpit parts but some truly excellent cannon parts in resin and brass. I compared to the True details set and I think I have paid for a pricey cannon. They did, however, include small sheet of lead (to make seat harnesses from( but this can be nicely adapted to make a heavy fabric cannon cover that I have seen on more than a few reference shots.

I've labeled the tubs for comparison, True Details on the left and Verlinden on the right. Details in the Verlinden seem a bit 'cheap' although they did include an air-conditioning hose that fits across the back of the cockpit behind the ejector seat. So I guess I'll be making a hybrid from all of the best bits of the True Details, Verlinden and Eduard PE interior for an awesome cockpit.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:25 AM

jmabx - That P-59 is outstanding!  Got the kit of the first test P-59.  Now I'm looking forward to working on her. 

  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:33 AM

The old Jug is getting closer to paint! Have to do some touch up to the red cowl (thanks, CA accelerator...), prime and pre-shade, and then it'll be NMF time!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by maxfax on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 AM

Jmbax: Wow- great job! That finish is flawless!

Rob

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:46 PM

Wow, I get back and all kinds of cool stuff is going on!

Vetteman: Fantastic Texan/Harvard! The NM looks perfect and the yellow (which I find almost as hard to get right as the NM) looks solid too. I'm going to have to pick up one some day. On the air show I attended a stunt pilot was throwing one around the sky in ways I'd never think a trainer would go. 

Doogs: great stuff on the cockpit for the P-38 and P-47. The latter looks really sharp so far.

Richard: wow, you're going to have that P-38 done soon!

Casper: looking forward to seeing the cockpit come together for your F-104. In 1/32 you'll be able to work to serious detail in there.

And if I may, mandatory shot of the Blue Angels from the airshow I attended last week! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:58 PM

Ok, I knew this seat was going to be special when I opened the box. However a hybrid was going to be necessary to get a good seat. All the AM have some good elements but nothing 100% perfect.

I picked the best bits and a bit of scratch.

After washing and priming the resin;

This is the result after about 20 hours of work. When the oils have dried I will lay down some flat cote.

Can't wait to get to the rest of the cockpit if it comes up this well!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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