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  • From: Hobart, Australia
Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, December 5, 2010 11:53 PM

vetteman42

Casper man thats got to be one of the most detailed offices I have seen, very very nice work Toast

I just got back from NZ and am moving house in a week so that's all my modelling for the moment! But my new place gives me a dedicated model area that's not the dining room table!

Cheers and thanks everyone for their comments.

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, December 5, 2010 11:30 PM

Is it five already?Embarrassed Can't help it my friend, i just like NMF's and can't help always being busy on one... Know what? Just count 3 of mine as one official one and we should be okPropeller

Almost started the trumpeter wildcat ya know but the jug for the no aftermarket GB was planned already and yes, i do like jugsBig Smile.....Ummm..... ya thats what i meant, i like jugs...period.

Thank you all for your comments gents!Yes

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 5:59 PM

Doogs man what a bummer Censored Did you try brushing on a bit of clear to see if it took care of the clouding ?

Xradio81 the Jug is looking good from what I can see. You have really done well taking care of the infamous Monogram seams.

Casper man thats got to be one of the most detailed offices I have seen, very very nice work Toast

Kermit wow !!!!!!!!! my hat goes off to you sir for the beautiful save on that finish, I like it. The decals are a bummer but over all its a fine build, and I do like the markings you chose. YesYes The front page has been updated with your build

Now Richard that makes five builds for this group, I guess I will haffa come up with a booby prize for both quality and quantity. And I have to get to work on my second painted NMF build soon to.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 5, 2010 5:11 PM

Richard: sorry to hear about the decal woes. Sometimes it seems like the darn things just won't work no matter what you do. Still excellent work on the paint, she turned out a lot better than how mine is coming.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, December 5, 2010 3:35 AM

xradio81,

Nobody hates the jug!Smile In fact it would be in my all time top 5. Really looking forward to see what markings people choose for their model as there is a staggering diversity. Looking good sofar. Would you reccomend this kit to people or refer them to other brands? Got an Academy overhere that i did before and i did certainly like that one. Not the best but great considering price vs. features.

Well....

Just finished the P38.... Can't really say much more about it and to be honest it is probably ending up on the back part of the shelf. I came very very close to give Randy a Dear John message. The decals kinda screwed my build as did the canopy. Decals being Academy's fault and the canopy being one of my worst ever LOL.... Ah well. Construction itself was pretty straightforward without much problem. Canopy needs cutting off and no clipping off like i did; left a nasty gap on the port side...Bang Head. I would say that only the wheel well tubs need some attention with lining them up to the fuselage parts.

And the decals...... Well.... take a look at this next pic:

The tail decals were even worse! And the prop ones got countless coats of microsol mind you; they just would NOT settle down.

Conclusion for this kit/ model:

1. Great kit in dire need of AM decals

2. Not my best ever by a long shot and happy to be done to be honest

3. Another thing or two learned about black basecoats combined with Alclad. I miserably failed on this one ending up using the low tech metal paints.

4. I'm glad my sig depict very well what my thoughts are right now: Fall flat on your face, get up again and keep going with a smileWink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Julez72 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 3:29 AM

Richard, hmmm the green building machine strikes again...Your P-38 looks sweet sir, great job on a difficult kit buddyYesYesYes Thanks for the heads up regarding the declas, i will definatly paint on those stripes when the time comes...I tell ya something about the P-38 in NMF just looks so cool....

Radio wow that kit is older than me, looking good so far mateYes

Arghhh  i feel the need to shorten my life by inhaling some more alclad fumes, bugger it i think i may make a  start that B-29Stick out tongue

 

 

 

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Posted by xradio81 on Saturday, December 4, 2010 3:29 PM

I'm trying to get caught up to all the great builds so far. This is the 1967 monogram kit. after sanding I will primer it tonight in flat black. not sure of the markings yet.

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, December 4, 2010 1:16 PM

Julez,

Thanks mate! Wasn't really aware you were doing putt putt maru too...Zip it! Would have chosen trailblazer instead if i did. I liked both.

Word of caution though....:

DO NOT USE THOSE DECALS!!!

Seldom have i used such bad decals in my entire life.....Angry Even after 8 (!) coats of microsol the tail stripy things still look like pieces of plastic bag nearly falling off and all wrinkly... Really horrible decals.

Almost done on my model... some decals....the tiny fiddly bits...cleanup and weathering.... should be done tomorrowSmile

To be honest i am kind of eager to get done with this one and move on... NMF went pretty well but the decals were a nightmare and i am not too proud of that canopy.... Pretty nice kit though and would certainly do it again with AM decals.

Richard

 

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, December 3, 2010 4:15 AM

Havn't been around much lately, too much extra work in December...It's good to see that everyone is still making progressYes

Jeremy, Yeah i knew yours was going to be a beauty...You did an outsatnding build sir, well doneYesYesYes

Doogs, ouch man thats gotta hurt, hurts me just looking at the pic

Casper, Nice work buddy the office looks great, well doneYes

Richard, yeah thats the scheme i was doing, now i have to look at your pics and wonder what might have beenCrying I'll get there in the end though...Nice work on your Putt puttYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:36 PM

Bad luck Doogs, decals can make or break a model in the end! Crying

I've almost done the tub, in fact I've just weathered the True Details side walls and done some last minute cutting and sanding to get the heavy bottomed resin tub into the fuselage.

These tubs can sure look nice but are often not compatible with the kit they are meant to fit into. I also cut out the top of the dash where the HUD sits and have attached some copper sheeting to act as a small shelf so the dash sits flush and not on top so the front windshield will fit. This also means the exact fit of the upper instrument panel vs.the rest of the tub had to be excruciatingly exact and I spent almost an hour test fitting and whittling away small amounts of resin.

I also found the copper useful to get those 90 degree angles. Just popped them into my Hold'n'fold and they ensured a perfect fit to the resin. Also will help in fitting the part exactly into the fuselage.

So as I am moving house in two weeks I am delaying putting the plane together at all. Just concentrating on the little details so everything can live in the box and not become an annoying shape that needed to be carefully padded and braced.

I assembled the cannon using elements from the Hasegawa kit, Eduard PE and Verlinden resin. I also tackled the radome, the kit details almost non existent. I plan on displaying with the nose removable so I wanted some variety in there. I found an excellent photo of the radar assembly and it was real busy with wiring and tubing going everywhere. I approximated this look with audio cable, paper clips and B-17 & tank parts and unused bits of the Verlinden resin kit.

After some silver dry brushing and an oil wash it should really add some interest to the front of the plane.

Cheers

 

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:30 PM

Doogs,

Aww man...Bang Head From the look of it the camo worked out so well for you. It's a real PITA and i can imagine you want to walk away from your jug after this happened... I feel your pain LOL. What did you use to get the decals off? Rubbing alcohol or smt?

Had a bit of "old decal" stuff going on myself and i must say that the bottle of Microscale liquid decal film i invested in goes a long way in restoring them. Also works great as a protective layer on custom printed decals btw... Just my fifty cents. Still fragile and fiddly but workable.

This weekend ive been busy with mostly NMF spraying of ordnance, droptanks and the tiny bits and bobs but i also sprayed on the anti glare panels. Pictures of the restored "putt putt Maru" showed a glossy anti glare so i copied that with future coatings. Also these same pictures do not show the yellow lining to the fuselage panel but the instructions called for them and i thought it looked more dashing this waySmile

As soon as im done painting i can start on the decals and finalizing construction. WIP's to follow soonWink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:35 PM

CallSignOWL

aww, DoogsATX, sorry to  see such unfortunate results. Especially with a build so close to the finish! Crying It doesn't look like you gloss coated the paint though. Could that have been a contributing factor to the decal debacle?

OWL

I glossed it with Testors glosscoat lacquer...I think I probably could've sprayed it on heavier, but after the Future debacle with the Soviet birds I've been hesitant. 

But no, the decals were down decent last night, then this morning they were all jacked. 17 years old...I think the adhesive was just too degraded.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:30 PM

aww, DoogsATX, sorry to  see such unfortunate results. Especially with a build so close to the finish! Crying It doesn't look like you gloss coated the paint though. Could that have been a contributing factor to the decal debacle?

 

OWL

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:54 PM

Okay. The Monogram P-47 isn't getting finished. At least any time soon. The old Monogram decals decided to prove their worth:

And the ensuring removal left white residue all over the paint job.

I don't have it in my to go back to square one with this kit, so I'm starting over, this time with a Tamiyabolt and Aeromaster decals (same markings). I'm going to try to play it a bit straighter with the paint this time, which means that only the underside of the port wing will be bare metal. Not really enough to warrant putting it up here, alas...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:51 PM

Casper the Chihuahua

What's peoples thoughts on this, painting what's not going to be seen...

Personally I don't paint or detail areas that won't be seen. I don't even really like detailing areas that can barely be seen (anything beyond the seat in a Wildcat cockpit, for example). 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:12 PM

I really like the detail inside this Aires Exhaust kit.

Problem is with the rest of the engine, to paint or not to paint?! The whole thing apart from the 'up the shaft' view will be inside and not seen.

There is the possibility of building the kit with the engine out but I'm not sure if I like the look of the F-104 with it's tail off and on a trolley.

What's peoples thoughts on this, painting what's not going to be seen...

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by kermit on Friday, November 26, 2010 2:21 PM

Hey guys, been offline for a bit regarding this GB but i can explain...Smile

First of all let me congratulate everyone with outstanding WIP pics! Doogs's T-bolt is really shiny indeed with all the polishing and Casper's pit is really busy and colorful. Love it!!Yes

Ok, so ive been busy on my P38 all week... Tried a gloss black base with future coat.... looked great. Then i tried to mist on some Alclad after i let that cure for a day or two. Came out all lumpy and orange peely.... So i sanded down the lumps, refutured to get it smooth and tried to cover the (now irregular black base) it with another coat of Alclad.

BAD mistake. Every little speck and smudge showed through the coat.....

Been busy for a week now and i am tired of sanding and recoating, hoping for the best... So i sanded once more.... refutured.... came out baby butt smooth. Applied my trusty revell airbrush ready aluminum paint and came up with this:

Might not be the smoothest NMF paint but indeed the most forgiving i ever used. No need for black bases or even a smooth black base as this will cover in one go. Period.

What ive learned from this:

The Alclad 101 normal aliminum paint doesnt need a black gloss base so dont take any risks and botch the basecoat. It will only make the Alclad look bad. A future coat over your bare plastic will do with that paint.

Strangely enough i must say that this coat of revell paint looks better than the little t-bolt with Alclad i did before this one.... Maybe it's the Alclad/ sanded basecoat...?

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:41 PM

Casper - wow you're going all out on that F-104 pit! Looking forward to tackling my first 1/32 build here in the near future...looks like it's possible to work a lot more detail into the office than in 1/48...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:04 PM

Doogs: Wow, I wish I could get such an even finish, somehow I always seem to get dust in mine somehow. Looking forward to seeing her with all the paint and decals and stuff done.

Casper: First rate! Love how the cockpit is coming together.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:18 AM

vetteman42

Doogs wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the powders made a huge difference, hold on a sec I need my Cool there thats better. I am thinking I am going to have to do another painted NMF with the Talon paints, as the one I am doing next for the group will also have that old looking NMF. 

Yeah - the powders transform the finish. Big downside, though, is how messy they are. If you've already got other colors laid down, make very sure that they're masked, because the powder goes EVERYWHERE, especially once you kick the Dremel on. 

Honestly, despite the shine, I'm leaning back toward Alclad. I like the idea of being able to lay it down all shiny, and just reach for different colors instead of having to play with different polishing combinations to achieve that tonal variety.

Speaking of Alclad...I sprayed the prop hub and blast tubes with Alclad Airframe Aluminum last night. This is my first time shooting the high-shine stuff on anything other than that trashy Revell Dauntless I keep for random testing. And I LOVE how it looks, especially on the prop hub.

Also got the upper surfaces started with a base coat of Ocean Gray. Going to be fading and blending it tonight, sealing it tomorrow, then moving on to Dark Green on Turkey Day...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, November 22, 2010 9:17 PM

Doogs wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the powders made a huge difference, hold on a sec I need my Cool there thats better. I am thinking I am going to have to do another painted NMF with the Talon paints, as the one I am doing next for the group will also have that old looking NMF. 

Casper your IP and pit look fantastic ! YesYes I have a 1/32 F-16 I have been afraid to build because of the detail possible in the pit. You have pulled this F-104 off very well indeed.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, November 22, 2010 8:37 PM

I didn't quite expect the F-104 to have such a tight office! Quite squeezy in there. Let's hope it all fits into the fuselage.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, November 22, 2010 1:06 AM

And...the Jug has its NMF!

I'd originally intended to use Talon, but spray issues defeated me. I couldn't get it shooting consistently with anything less than 3/4 throttle, and at that point it's basically a fire hose. So after flooding one of the stabilizers, I switched to SnJ enamel. Still didn't spray Alclad smooth, but I got the job done.

After letting it dry for a bit (and wondering off to paint the prop and prime the blast tubes), I broke out the Dremel and polishing powders. The effect is pretty awesome, but a lot of work, and messy.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:40 PM

Well I should be working...but I'm not! This is pretty much my last week I can do any modelling until Christmas.

Time to have a look at some of the instrument panels. Once again, I like the TD resin but I like the Eduard PE better. They also included a very finely laser printed insert with tiny instrument details on them. Si I got out the razor and scratched off the resin details I would replace.

I'm glad I spent the time doing this, fiddly though it is to paint on PE sometimes. Here is the lower instrument panel and the HUD and under the front windshield (not sure what that bit is called). I saw a ref pic for the radar and it looked like there was some white details on the screen. I tried very unsuccessfully to paint those in and decided to use some discarded decals. The radar bubble itself was a mix between red/brown on the northern hemisphere and wood/brown underneath to simulate a gradient. Then for the gloss I used a thinned drop of red clear, it sorted of took away from the gradient effect but believe me it looks much better for real the photo doesn't do it much justice. I did the same technique with the HUD lens, white and apple green highlights on light green with a clear blue drop on top. It's a bit hard to see but I used some multicolored dots in oils to pick out the hint of fabric khaki covering just behind the dash.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:58 PM

Ok, I knew this seat was going to be special when I opened the box. However a hybrid was going to be necessary to get a good seat. All the AM have some good elements but nothing 100% perfect.

I picked the best bits and a bit of scratch.

After washing and priming the resin;

This is the result after about 20 hours of work. When the oils have dried I will lay down some flat cote.

Can't wait to get to the rest of the cockpit if it comes up this well!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:46 PM

Wow, I get back and all kinds of cool stuff is going on!

Vetteman: Fantastic Texan/Harvard! The NM looks perfect and the yellow (which I find almost as hard to get right as the NM) looks solid too. I'm going to have to pick up one some day. On the air show I attended a stunt pilot was throwing one around the sky in ways I'd never think a trainer would go. 

Doogs: great stuff on the cockpit for the P-38 and P-47. The latter looks really sharp so far.

Richard: wow, you're going to have that P-38 done soon!

Casper: looking forward to seeing the cockpit come together for your F-104. In 1/32 you'll be able to work to serious detail in there.

And if I may, mandatory shot of the Blue Angels from the airshow I attended last week! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by maxfax on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 AM

Jmbax: Wow- great job! That finish is flawless!

Rob

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:33 AM

The old Jug is getting closer to paint! Have to do some touch up to the red cowl (thanks, CA accelerator...), prime and pre-shade, and then it'll be NMF time!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:25 AM

jmabx - That P-59 is outstanding!  Got the kit of the first test P-59.  Now I'm looking forward to working on her. 

  

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:55 PM

I got my Verlinden Starfighter 1/32 Update today and it contains some ok resin cockpit parts but some truly excellent cannon parts in resin and brass. I compared to the True details set and I think I have paid for a pricey cannon. They did, however, include small sheet of lead (to make seat harnesses from( but this can be nicely adapted to make a heavy fabric cannon cover that I have seen on more than a few reference shots.

I've labeled the tubs for comparison, True Details on the left and Verlinden on the right. Details in the Verlinden seem a bit 'cheap' although they did include an air-conditioning hose that fits across the back of the cockpit behind the ejector seat. So I guess I'll be making a hybrid from all of the best bits of the True Details, Verlinden and Eduard PE interior for an awesome cockpit.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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