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Variable Geometry: the Swing Wing GB

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Posted by Medicman71 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:26 PM

Thanks everyone. I will be asking for help i'm sure. The resin cockpit is new to me and is gonna be fun.

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Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:43 PM

pordoi

GBs are great places to learn new things.  We'll be watching, but we're also here to help.  Just ask.

 

Don

 

Very true.  I learn a lot here in my first group build.  Plus you are less likely to take a short cut because others are watching.  I have since signed up for 5 other GBs since starting this one.  I don't know if I will finish all the kits I signed up to do but I do hope to learn a whole bunch more. 

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:16 PM

Medicman71

Thanks everyone. No pressure 'eh? Lol. Just be aware that this is my second kit (the Osprey being the first) in more than 20 yrs. I just hope it turns out ok. Not sure about the resin cockpit. First time i've used something like that.

 

Hey Medicman, it's good to push the envelope.  GBs are great places to learn new things.  We'll be watching, but we're also here to help.  Just ask.

 

Don

 

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Posted by Medicman71 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:45 PM

Thanks everyone. No pressure 'eh? Lol. Just be aware that this is my second kit (the Osprey being the first) in more than 20 yrs. I just hope it turns out ok. Not sure about the resin cockpit. First time i've used something like that.

Building- (All 1/48) F-14A Tomcat, F-16C Blk 30, He 129

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:31 PM

Nice set of goodies you got for y our build Medicman.  Gonna be fun to watch you build.

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:53 PM

Medicman71

Yeah I heard about the fit issues. Built this kit (I think it was that one) when I was a teenager. That's why i'm using the FOD covers. I'll let you know how to apply them when I get to that step. I may take em out and read the instructions before that too.

Big Smile  Instructions do help.  We look forward to seeing how you modify them  Wink

Agree about the resin though.  This one will be fun to watch.

 

Don

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:43 PM

Medicman Looking forward to seeing this come together. Is this an old kit, don't think i ahve ever seen a revell kit with that style of boxing.

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Posted by Medicman71 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:27 PM

oddmanrush

Medicman, some nice lookin' resin you got there. I built that kit a while back, a few fit problems (incidentally, that seems rather common in my builds lately) but not bad. Would you mind detailing how you apply those FOD covers? I'd like to see how that's done.

Yeah I heard about the fit issues. Built this kit (I think it was that one) when I was a teenager. That's why i'm using the FOD covers. I'll let you know how to apply them when I get to that step. I may take em out and read the instructions before that too.

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:24 PM

Medicman, some nice lookin' resin you got there. I built that kit a while back, a few fit problems (incidentally, that seems rather common in my builds lately) but not bad. Would you mind detailing how you apply those FOD covers? I'd like to see how that's done.

Jon

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Posted by Medicman71 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:14 PM

Ok here's a few teaser pics for ya.

 

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Posted by Medicman71 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:30 PM

The front page with the completed builds look great. Nice work everyone. Gonna wash all the resin pieces soon so that I can start. Hopefully Fightertown Decals will release thier new VF-1 decals soon. Shouldn't keep me from starting though.

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:13 AM

Don, nothing really struck me as being the problem. I'm not sure if the fuselage, where the wing root sits, was a little warped, or if the wing root itself just didn't fit snug. The top half of the fuselage would not correct the problem, tried that too. The mechanics of the wings were not all that sound as you can see in the second picture I posted. So I wonder if its simply that the wing didn't have enough to really grab onto to keep it up right. Everything else appears level so....here we are I guess.

Jon

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Posted by pordoi on Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:06 AM

oddmanrush

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/theoddsare/0119012200-1.jpg

You can see the starboard side wing has a nasty sag to it. I tried several ways to fix it but it wasn't working so I finally decided to glue it down and hold it in place. Sure, the wings won't be variable any longer but I'd rather sacrifice function than appearance in this case.

That's how she sits now. Hopefully the glue will set ok and I can carry on.....

 

Any thing specific that you saw that caused the problem in the first place?  Was it poor molding?  Would the top half of the fuselage hold the wing in place once it was assembled, or would the wing still have some sag?

Eitehr way, I did something similar with the B-1B as you probably know, so I can't complain.  The aircraft still has variable geometry even though you chose to depict it in one form.  Form over function, I agree.  Soldier on!

 

Don

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:53 AM

Hi guys, a little more progress, but the kit hasn't improved any....I'm really having a tough time with it, fit wise.

I put the wings together and set them on their pegs that they will eventually swivel on but look at this picture:

You can see the starboard side wing has a nasty sag to it. I tried several ways to fix it but it wasn't working so I finally decided to glue it down and hold it in place. Sure, the wings won't be variable any longer but I'd rather sacrifice function than appearance in this case.

That's how she sits now. Hopefully the glue will set ok and I can carry on.....

Jon

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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:04 PM

The front page is looking nice and full of great builds.  Nice job everyone!  I just gotta get my butt in gear and finish this thing.  Then I can start that F-14.  I might make it an Academy F-14a instead of a Hasegawa.  I don't feel like dealing with that kind of a kit yet.

Kevin

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:44 PM

lol, nice idea, i will see how the Mrs likes it. I have a move next year when i leave the Army. Got to move all my models, built and stashed, as well as all my tools home. Hopefully i will have somewhere to build and display them by then. And then i can do some of my larger projects. At the moment, my hobby room is also my bedroom, sitting room, kitchen and wash room. So space is a bit tight.

The front page is looking good. With whats already been built and whats under way, theres not going to be many blank spaces.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:11 PM

Geez, I'm responsible for updating this GB and I forget to post my own completed build on the front page.  Well, it's now updated for those who want a quick snapshot of all completed Swing Wings. 

Still waiting and looking forward to see several other builds near completion.  Plenty of time still left, though.

 

Don

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:30 PM

pordoi

 macattack80:

Did you celebrate the completion of the build with a glass of scotch?

 

 

You betcha!  Maybe more than a glass  ToastToastToast, ... I can't remember.   That must be why I'm a little slow today.  Wink

 

Bish, just build it and hang it from the ceiling over the dining room table.  After all, what's left when the meal is done?  ....   Bones. 

 

Indifferent   Sorry about that,...

 

Don

 

Atta boy!  Toast 

As for your joke....that's the scotch talkin'  Yes

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:46 PM

macattack80

Did you celebrate the completion of the build with a glass of scotch?

 

You betcha!  Maybe more than a glass  ToastToastToast, ... I can't remember.   That must be why I'm a little slow today.  Wink

 

Bish, just build it and hang it from the ceiling over the dining room table.  After all, what's left when the meal is done?  ....   Bones. 

 

Indifferent   Sorry about that,...

 

Don

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:35 PM

Thanks for those ones Don. Im dieing to build my Bone, but afraid its going to have to wait a couple of years when hopefully i will have the space for it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:33 PM

pordoi

 macattack80:

I found the post where you attached the landing gear and the issues/fixes you mentioned.  I even replied to it.  Embarrassed To my defense, it was a while ago.....Whistling

 

 

It's called aging, Kevin...  Wink   ...

Now where did I put my glasses...??

 

Don

Nice. 

Did you celebrate the completion of the build with a glass of scotch?

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:17 PM

macattack80

I found the post where you attached the landing gear and the issues/fixes you mentioned.  I even replied to it.  Embarrassed To my defense, it was a while ago.....Whistling

 

It's called aging, Kevin...  Wink   ...

Now where did I put my glasses...??

 

Don

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:14 PM
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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:06 PM

Cheers mac. I just managed to find the page with the links Don gave me. I hate this system where you can only move 3 pages at a time.

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Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:01 PM

Bish

Don, have you still got that link to hand for the pod. I can't damn find it.

http://www.shull24.com/

Kevin

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:54 PM

Don, have you still got that link to hand for the pod. I can't damn find it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Monday, January 17, 2011 6:28 PM

I found the post where you attached the landing gear and the issues/fixes you mentioned.  I even replied to it.  Embarrassed To my defense, it was a while ago.....Whistling

I will give your fix a go when I get to that point and let you know how it works out.  Thanks for the heads up......again.Big Smile

Kevin

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Posted by macattack80 on Monday, January 17, 2011 6:09 PM

pordoi

 macattack80:

Were you able to get her to rest on all 10 wheels? 

 

 

No.  That is one of the errors that I made.  You do have some flexibility with the positioning of the main gear.  Check out my previous post (trying to remember which page) for what I thought might be the solution.  My problem was that the right main gear ended up with the rear wheel set floating just a bit. 

 

Don

 

Hmmm...I didnt see that post.  I will go back and have a look.  I only asked because I had a look at the main gear for my kit and the port side wheels look a little off.  Your build looked like you were able to get all wheels to touch the ground. 

If you wanted to boost your post count you could always post a pic of this beast on Stikpusher's Show Your Revell/Monogram Builds thread.  Big Smile

Kevin

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, January 17, 2011 6:03 PM

vetteman42

Very well done sir, very well indeed. One to be proud of Toast

 

 

Thank you, sir!

 

Don

 

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, January 17, 2011 6:01 PM

macattack80

Were you able to get her to rest on all 10 wheels? 

 

No.  That is one of the errors that I made.  You do have some flexibility with the positioning of the main gear.  Check out my previous post (trying to remember which page) for what I thought might be the solution.  My problem was that the right main gear ended up with the rear wheel set floating just a bit. 

 

Don

 

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