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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:21 PM

Ack! The vandals are everywhere! Indifferent

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:35 PM

Obvously Klinger never knew about Catch 22... now I dont know anything about wires across roads but those folks messing with jeep rims...

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:07 PM

She's coming along nicely SP!

And not too shabby for an early build there John, a little glossy but you did a good job painting everything.

Well, here's the Jeep in progress. You can see some of the Terra Cotta paint on the side I've been using for mud, I went over and repainted everything today and added the pre-shading- hopefully I'll get to decals tomorrow.

Funny, I'm reminded of the time Klinger tried to prove his insanity by eating a Jeep piece by piece:

Then it seems the crew all ended up decapitated by a Chinese tripwire and had the wheels and tires stolen by vandals (BTW attached heads to the figures today too!)

The M40 with a non-standard travel lock for the main gun. I had no idea how big this thing was till I started the kit.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:29 AM

Helo, I am building the Revell kit. And yes it came with the bubbles to fit over the litters.

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:58 PM

I just realized that the 1/35 H-13D is a MRC kit not academy as I wrongly refered to it . Anyway after a bit of a search on ebay I found a MRC H-13D for $11 with $20 shipping . Certainly a lot cheaper than some of the on-line LHS here in my neck of the woods , they were asking for $49 which didn't include shipping ; (usually another 14 bucks) . So I bought the ebay kit , which according to the item desription does include weapons for the skids ....."I hope that's correct"

I then carefully removed some of the pieces from my original Revell H-13 build and I'll clean them up and re-paint the parts seperatly for a more accurate Vietnam H-13H

I'll place the figures and jeep in a plastic container and spray some Mr Muscle oven cleaner over them and seal down the lid for a day , hopfully that will remove most of the old humbrol paint

The jeep came apart nicely , mostly because I went and found the old instruction sheet in the files and saw how Revell provided rubber tyres and they came off easierly and the wheels themselves just click onto the axles anyway .

I hadn't planned on anything for the Korean War GB in 1/35 scale , so it's kinda wierd how this just came about ; A nice H-13D kit at a great price and I'll be able to breathe life into an older H-13H build as well Wink

John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:48 PM

Hi everyone ;

My apologizes for my absence of late , I've been really busy on the home front .

But first off , a big congrats' to Andy for the awesome F-84 dio . Everything looks great around the aircraft .

I would be taking that back home along with the firstaid station you built Andy , when you leave Korea . Their much too nice to leave behind .

Stik , awesome WIP on your H-13 build . I'm really tempted to go and buy one of those Academy kits as I have some really old MASH figures I could re-paint and include in a dio .

These original builds have been sitting in one of the spares box's for quite a few years now and if I remember correctly they were some of the first builds I ever did , probably about 25 years ago now .

The two MASH helicopters ( obviously in correct as Korean War H-13 versions ) were built and painted in one of those two day - gluue everything together and not much painting involved sessions .

A litttle more paint to the Figures and jeep but also finished in about a day

Am I to understand correctly Stik from that picture you posted earlier that the Academy kit doesn't have the Stretcher shields included , perhaps I could use one set from the revell H-13

I suppose I could rebuild my original Revell H-13 as Vietnam War Helo's ? I wonder if there are any weapons sets available to replace the stretchers ???

I sure am tempted to buy one of those nice Academy 1/35 H-13's Stick out tongue

John .

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:47 PM

a few updates on my H-13

here is a better shot of the IP with the instrument dials decal in place

the pilot figure with base colors painted on

tail rotor painted and installed

and overall...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:45 PM

That would be cool. The H-13 that I am building was originally released under the same banner as a M*A*S*H* kit. I do recall seeing both at the LHS  back then....

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by the_draken on Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:12 AM

Weirdly enough...  Revell did put out a M*A*S*H Jeep and tent with Radar and Hawkeye...

http://www.oldmodelkits.com/jpegs/Revell%204335%20Mashswamp.JPG

My wife has the kit (got it for her for Xmas one year, she's a HUGE fan of MASH!) an maybe I can convince her to put it together for the build.  Doubtful, but would be srsly cool.

Big Smile

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Posted by taxtp on Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:43 AM

Is that Radar and Hawkeye ?

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 10, 2012 5:48 PM

Well I was about to post a pic about the bubbles that covered the front of the litters... then I stumbled across this gem of a photo which answered my question. I know that it is the older version of the H-13, but the litter bubbles are nearly identical to those in the Revell kit

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 10, 2012 12:41 PM

The fuselage frame work is a very complicated and impressive piece of molding. Most of the boom, the the lower two sides of the V triangle is a single piece from where the tail rotor guard attaches to where the cockpit bubble attaches. Just the top cross member framing, some framing below the engine, and few other items here and there such as the skids need to be attached.

This is about 5 or 6 parts attached to the main framework part.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 10, 2012 8:55 AM

SP: You're charging ahead like a fireball now! Nice work, I'm pleasantly surprised that all those struts aligned without any major problems.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 10, 2012 12:06 AM

A little more progress on my H-13 today. I was able to get the tail rotor shaft and radiator glued on. I just need to go back and touch up with OD where the glue shows. And I also applied the instrument dials decal to the instrument panel. Unfortunately that pic was way out of focus. So here are the pics that did come out. I was able to get the IP face in the back of a couple pics.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:17 AM

I guess it looks complicated cause it's nekkid... Nothing covering up all that intricate framework like we are used to seeing on current stuff. The kit itself is not complicated at all.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:30 PM

Excellent dio Andy, I really like it. Are you leaving it or taking it ? It seems a shame to leave it behind. There is so much to see in it, it's worth a second look.

The H13 looks complicated Stik. I guess it was.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:36 PM

The latest update on my H-13- last nite I appled a wash to teh engine and then glued it in place.

I need to attach the radiator and tail rotor drive shaft next, do a bit more work in the cockpit, then I can attach the cockpit bubble to the framework...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 6, 2012 2:54 PM

Oh that is a beauty DrakenYesCool I am gonna have to ponder awhile as to which photo to use for the front page here. So much good stuff! Confused

Well on another thread here where I had posted requesting some info for my H-13 build I recieved the info that I wanted. But I was also told that the IP center console needed to be repainted into OD. So I did that last night. No big deal, but here are a couple shots.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 6, 2012 11:12 AM

Nice work there Andy, I love the cluttered look to the base that you seem to get in any garage/maintenance situation.

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Posted by the_draken on Monday, August 6, 2012 10:51 AM

So, I'm done with my next to last kit before leaving Korea.  I still have the Matchbox/Revell Privateer on the bench and it's finally sitting on its landing gear.  Without further ado, the completed Thunderjet Diorama!

I like this picture and how it shows off the cockpit and the guns.

I used the wire out of a pair of broken headphones for the fuel hoses on the truck.  The Hasegawa kit comes with all three figures!

A few comments on these pics:  I'm using natural sunlight at a very low angle (at about 0800hrs in the AM) because that's when it actually comes in my classroom windows.  Some things that have gotten lost are the gloss weathering on the fuel tank and the puddles on the diorama base, as well as the different colors on the base..  Things that got highlighted are the chroming and different panel colors on the aircraft and some of the figures (and the cat hairs!).  The kit was wonderful, the figures okey dokey, and I liked the base.

Take your pick Stikpusher, whichever one you want is fine with me.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:35 PM

SP: She's coming along great, as you said not much left to do now! And I'll try OD under yellow in the future, I'd been using white to a light tan before.

John: A series of recee birds does sound cool, go for it!!!

Though I'm thinking maybe the Hawaii 5-0 theme may be a most recognized theme song though! Paradise

Well, the Jeep is green, was going to get some photos and then forgot, I think I'll wait till I start pre-shading her now. Grabbed the razor saw and the big box of spare figure parts and went into Frankenstein mode this weekend, a leg here, an arm there, ah a head........

IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIVE AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:20 PM

Oh the Tigercat...Stick out tongue I really do not know enough about those. A very good looking bird. My dad, who used to aircraew on B-26s after Korea with the 452nd took one look at the Tigercat and saw that it must have been a "hot rod" with those two big radials and sleek lines. Not that his beloved Invader was any slouch either...There is an older gentleman in our local IPMS Chapter who was a Naval Avaitor in that era. Every meeting that I get a chance to speak with him it is always great to hear his reminisces about flying Corsairs, Hellcats, Bearcats, Tigercats, Panthers, etc. A really great guy to speak with.

Anyways here is my H-13 up to this point- first up I masked off the main rotor tips. Then I painted the lower surfaces Flat Black, per the instructions. Then it was time to hit all the OD areas needing touch ups so I masked off the Yellow tail fin and tail rotor guard areas. So I airbrused all those areas in need with more OD, and on the upper surface of the main rotor.

but I did get a bit lazy on the masking... I will have to repaint the the tail fin stiffener in red again...Whistling

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:19 PM

I completely forgot about the TARPS pod fitted to the F-14 and I have plenty of Tomcats in the stash ...Wink

Speaking of all things 'cat' ; I was just looking through Squadrons F7F Tigercat in action book and spied a pic of a F7F-3P (photo recon) Tigercat

This would make for another unusual naval recon bird that operated in the Korean theatre and I don't think it would be too difficult to add some camera windows

It wouldn't suprise me if the theme from MASH , would be the most recognizable music theme in the world .

John .

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:05 PM

Helo H-34

And this is slightly off topic but I was thinking of building a series of Photo Recon birds starting from WWII right up to the present day for the Navy / Marines . I already have a RA-5C , RF-8G and a RF-4B in the display cabinet . Other aircraft I was thinking of getting were the F9F-8P , F7U-3P , AJ-2P Savage , RA-3B Skywarrior and RF-18 Hornet . Does anyone have any suggestings of other naval aircraft .

Dont forget the F-14 with the TARPS pod

And thanks about the H-13. You know how it is when a kit gets close to the finish line you start to feel the need to bear down and get it finished. Last night I had to go to Youtube and look up the MASH movie intro... the song lyrics with the images of the wounded on the H-13 was quite haunting. And believe you me, I was quite pleasantly suprised about OD and yellow until I remembered the mixing properties of OD.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:35 PM

I was looking through the Steve Ginter AJ Savage book and came across a small pic of a AJ-2P Savage of Photographic Squadron Sixty-One VJ-61 .

I'm not 100% sure but am I right in what's written above that this aircraft participated during the Korean War and flew secret missions over North Korea ?

The paint scheme of natural metal undersides and gloss sea blue upper surfaces looks unusual ; Would this be a suitable build to add to the Korean War GB ? . Even though it was stationed in the Philippines .

John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:17 PM

Great WIP Stik on your H-13 Yes

Especially the detail painting in the cockpit and engine parts , She's starting to look like a medivac chopper now .

I never realized that olive drab is a suitable undercoat for yellow , I alway's used flat white but I've now lernt something new ...Great stuff guy's .

I haven't had much bench time this past week , so sadly there hasn't been any real progress .

I was tidying the kit stash last night and started sorting the US. Navy/USMC Photo Reconnaissance aircraft kits and compiling a list of what I had in 1/72 scale . Along with the Banshee and Panther photo birds I've started , I have another High Planes F4U-5 , which I thought I could easierly convert to a 5P version . I was wondering what other Photo Recon aircraft the US. Navy/USMC used during the Korean War ?

And this is slightly off topic but I was thinking of building a series of Photo Recon birds starting from WWII right up to the present day for the Navy / Marines . I already have a RA-5C , RF-8G and a RF-4B in the display cabinet . Other aircraft I was thinking of getting were the F9F-8P , F7U-3P , AJ-2P Savage , RA-3B Skywarrior and RF-18 Hornet . Does anyone have any suggestings of other naval aircraft .

TIA ,

John .

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 4, 2012 3:28 PM

Gamera

Steve: That's great! I wasn't sure how well the trigger would work for fine spraying so I went with the conventional button model XG. Good to see it's working out for you.

Yes indeed that trigger takes getting used to. The loaner Grex that we have is the Tritium TG-2 model with a trigger and not the button like I am used to.

Gamera

SP: Nice work there on the chopper! And yeah I have to agree, I hate yellow, I swear it's even worse than white! Still everything came out great there!

BTW: The Jeep is OD green now, came out more greenish than I wanted, I may end up respraying her.

Well, as I learned here, OD makes a good primer for Yellow, amazingly enough. In the past I had used flat white or yellow zic chromate to prime. But considering that to make OD all you need to do is mix black and yellow, it is not too suprising. And I know what you mean about OD coming out too green. There are so many shades to choose from... dark, light, brownish, greenish, grayish... I love it Heart

well last night I did a bit more work on the H-13, I painted red on the stiffener bar on the rudder

then I painted the exhausts and fan belt on the engine

and painted the various details in the cockpit- seat cushions, stick and collective handles and boots, etc...

and a couple overall views

thanks for looking

 

 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 3, 2012 9:56 PM

Steve: That's great! I wasn't sure how well the trigger would work for fine spraying so I went with the conventional button model XG. Good to see it's working out for you.

SP: Nice work there on the chopper! And yeah I have to agree, I hate yellow, I swear it's even worse than white! Still everything came out great there!

BTW: The Jeep is OD green now, came out more greenish than I wanted, I may end up respraying her.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 3, 2012 9:00 PM

Well I know it is part me and my preferences... part paint issues... and part trying something new/different... Wink I tried it again today with Polly Scale (a new bottle of QM Yellow) and trying a different thinning ratio, 8 parts paint to 1 part thinner, had no issues whatsoever... and with YELLOW of all colors. In my experience with every brand, enamel or acrylic, that color is usually a beast to paint. By hand or by airbrush. Go figure...

Anyways without any masking I airbrushed Polly Scale QM Yellow (an Army Air Corps between the wars color) on the tail rotor guard, main rotor tips, and rudder rear (and also the boarding ladder for the F-100 that is my main current WIP). The boom/tail area was already OD so that acted as a primer, while the main rotor (and F-100 ladder) was unprimed.

Anyways a few pics...

main rotor

tail rotor guard/rudder rear

in a day or so I will mask off the yellow and do another coat of OD to clean it up. And a inplace overall shot

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, August 3, 2012 7:56 PM

I got back into modeling about 4 years ago and knew I had to have an airbrush.

My new best friend ( my LHS owner) had just gotten the new Grex brushes and

he let me buy one !  

At that time their line was small but the XT model was just for me .  While its true I'm not a Van Goth with airbrush I have been able to more confidently try various techniques with much less trepidation and have a grand time with my XT, spraying what ever doesn't move....Opps   

 gone too far back in history.

The guy from Grex has been down to my LHS several times for our swap meets and demonstrats the capability's of the various models and is able to answer any and all questions or show you how to do something . Good guy, Good company support.

Oh and I like my Grex

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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