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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, January 24, 2011 6:08 PM

Great work on the F-51 and F-82 Greg ,

I have both those kits in the Korean War stash , so I appreciate the heads up on both builds .

I think they came out quite well , the F-51 looks ready to roll with that sharks mouth grin .

Perhaps the Special Hobby F-82 might be a better option to build than the Monogram one [ I have both ]

Anyway nice builds overall Toast

                            John .

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Posted by pepper kay on Monday, January 24, 2011 7:41 PM

Helo H-34

Perhaps the Special Hobby F-82 might be a better option to build than the Monogram one [ I have both ]

FSM did a side-by-side review of both F-82 kits, when was it,  just a month or so ago ? ... pluses to both - minuses to both ...

Guess you make yer picks and you take yer chances, yes ? ...

I just wish someone would do it in 1/48 ... if anyone knows of one, please give a shout ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by Gregbbear on Monday, January 24, 2011 9:27 PM

Thanks Pepper and John.  I agree, a 1/48 F-82 would be nice.  There is an early model one made by Hobbycrap (?).  It is supposed to be one of the most atrocious kits ever.  I read the side by side comparo too.  Ideally, I guess it would be to combine the two kits by using the props and radar from the Monogram on the Special Hobby.  If I can find one of the SH kits on sale, I will get it for sure.  Meanwhile, I have the RoG boxing of the Monogram kit in my stash.  John, the kit is good, but since you have both... well, I guess I would build them both.

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:27 AM

I found some 1/72 decals for a ROK RF-4C Suwon AB 2003 and F-4E Suwon AB 1998 .

Both aircraft are finished in the two gray color scheme however the national insignia's are Hi-Viz , most of the pic's I've seen on the net so far show a Low-Viz insignia ; If I can find some low-viz one's to go with the rest of the decals I might be in business for a ROK Phantom ???

                              John .

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:50 PM

Nothing wrong with combining different decal sheets to get what you need/want.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:55 PM

I just ordered Academy's 1/72 F-16C ROK ; It has two sets of low-viz insgnia's on the decal sheet .

So hopfully I'll get to build a Korean RF/F-4 Phantom's along with the F-16C .

Sooooooo many builds ;

I think my Korean War kit builds may end up lasting as long as the Korean War Embarrassed

                           John .

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Posted by the_draken on Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:46 PM

Not sure if that's what you ordered, but I can lay hands on a KF-16.  I don't recall the price, abou $14.oo (USD) I seem to recall.  It's a special production kit put out by Academy.  I also happened upon their 1/72 scale Stryker kit that was a special production (didn't realize it was at the time).  Got home and opened it up to find resin stowage!  It was same price as the regular kit.  If you're really interested, lemme know!  The shipping can't be that danged much, and I owe you for the prop.  :)

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:03 PM

the_draken

Not sure if that's what you ordered, but I can lay hands on a KF-16.  I don't recall the price, abou $14.oo (USD) I seem to recall. 

I'll take the KF-16 if it's not already spoken for ... ...

pepper

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:03 PM

the_draken

Not sure if that's what you ordered, but I can lay hands on a KF-16.  I don't recall the price, abou $14.oo (USD) I seem to recall. 

I'll take the KF-16 if it's not already spoken for ... ...

pepper

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:15 PM

the_draken

Not sure if that's what you ordered, but I can lay hands on a KF-16.  I don't recall the price, abou $14.oo (USD) I seem to recall.  It's a special production kit put out by Academy.  I also happened upon their 1/72 scale Stryker kit that was a special production (didn't realize it was at the time).  Got home and opened it up to find resin stowage!  It was same price as the regular kit.  If you're really interested, lemme know!  The shipping can't be that danged much, and I owe you for the prop.  :)

Thank's Andy ,

I sent you an email .

      John .

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Posted by the_draken on Friday, January 28, 2011 12:12 AM

Ha ha ha!

Not a problem Pepper, there's two or three at the store.  I don't know when I get back on post with cash to get them, but they'll be there for a while, that's for sure.  I'll let you know as soon as I lay hands on them.  By the way, my email is landrew(DOT)hill[at]live.com  Replace the (DOT) with a . and the [at] with an @ to get the unmunged email addy.

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 10:00 AM

the_draken

Not a problem Pepper, there's two or three at the store.~~~  I'll let you know as soon as I lay hands on them. 

I'd certainly appreciate you keeping an eye out for me ... the only kits I see here are either Aggressors or Alaska ANG units ...

Now, another topic ...

I was looking at photos on Google last night and thought this might be a good Group Build (although I'm not volunteering to lead it :-) ...

How 'bout a GB on 'TARGET DRONES' ? ... not the drones like the Predator,  but real deal aircraft that have been and are now used as target drones ...

The variety was amazing, going back to WW II prop fighters all the way up to F-16's (can you believe that one ?) ... Google 'Aircraft Target Drones'  Images (upper left hand corner of the Google toolbar) for a sampling ...

In just the first row of pictures that come up, there's an F-4 Phantom, F-100 Super Sabre and an F-86 SabreJet ... there are also drones from England and, and , and ...

Any thoughts ?

pepper

PS I know that everyone is already swamped with projects, but his might well be low key ...

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 10:02 AM

pepper kay

In just the first row of pictures that come up, there's an F-4 Phantom, F-100 Super Sabre and an F-86 SabreJet ... there are also drones from England and, and , and ... 

And the paint schemes are really different !! ...

pepper

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, January 28, 2011 1:07 PM

Great idea Pepper .

I have some 1/72 QF-104 and QF-4S decals in the stash for a couple of future target drone builds . I would like to find some for a QF-8 Crusader , they had a great color scheme on them .

                              John .

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Posted by Gregbbear on Friday, January 28, 2011 2:34 PM

Pepper, that is a cool idea.  I have an old, and I mean old Revell F-4B and the only decals I can find are either Navy or drone.  How about drone controller aircraft?  I think there is a F7F tigercat controller version?

On another note, John, do you have the Ginter Skyknight book?  I'm thinking about ordering it, but I wanted your opinion on it.  By the way, do you have any good photos of the tail pipes?  I'm starting to put it together in my mind where I want to go with the Skyknight.  I didn't plan ahead for my P-70, and it has caused me to slow down at times, as if I don't build slow enough!  Also, I need to order a Skyraider book for my AD-4N conversion I want to do.  I would also love to build one of the USMC HEDRON Avengers that had night duty and ambulance duty.  I've never seen such an animal in kit form.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:01 PM

Hi Greg ;

Ginter's Skyknight book is good , all the photo's in the book are B&W .

Sadly there are no close-ups of engines , access panels , exhaust , wing folds etc ;

Which was quite disappointing Sad

I could be wrong but I think I saw a 1/72 Hasegawa Avenger kit for the JMSDF which looked a bit like those HEDRON Ambulance Avengers . the kit was over $60 , waaaaaay to expensive for me .

I spend so much time browsing Hannants web site , I can't remember exactly what type of Avenger it was ...sorry .

I have the Warbird Tech series , vol.13 Douglas A-1Skyraider and AD Skyraider vol.67 in detail and scale .

Both books are excellent for info on the Skyraider .

                 John .

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:20 PM

Gregbbear

Pepper, that is a cool idea.  I have an old, and I mean old Revell F-4B and the only decals I can find are either Navy or drone.  How about drone controller aircraft?  I think there is a F7F tigercat controller version?

Hey Guys:

Let's give it some thought ... I've also seen controller aircraft - F-7F included - for just about every airplane ever used as a target drone ...

I've no idea about decals as this thought just occurred to me today and I've not researched decalsI but from what I see in pictures, most of the unusual aspects of the drones revolve around paint schemes ... most everything else probably can be had from your decal stash ...

Anyhoo, let's give it some thought ...

BTW, the F-7F Tigercat drone controller aircraft  is a 2 seater with the second cockput located above and behind the original ... the drone controller sat in that cockpit with everything needed to fly the drone ... the first pilot flew the controller aircraft ... the canopy for it came from F-8 Bearcats ... it's a weird looking beast ...

pepper

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:31 PM

pepper kay

BTW, the F-7F Tigercat drone controller aircraft  is a 2 seater with the second cockput located above and behind the original ... the drone controller sat in that cockpit with everything needed to fly the drone ... the first pilot flew the controller aircraft ... the canopy for it came from F-8 Bearcats ... it's a weird looking beast ...

Here's the Tigercat drone controller ...

pepper

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:35 PM

I think I have got the decals sorted out for two ROK Phantoms , a RF-4C and F-4E using Hi-decals F-4 decal Sheet ,

I will replace the hi-viz ROK insignia's with some low-viz ones from a couple of KF-16C kits and I'll be building these two Fujimi 1/72 Phantom kits ,

I alway's get really excited about new builds , so I'll start today with some interior painting to the tubs and fuselage insides .

I now have half completed builds stacked up on the floor around the living room , I'm going to try and finish something this weekend , hopfully some armor , It's a little awkward tip toeing around the room in fear of falling head first into a nearly completed build , being a bachelor , I guess model aircraft building can get a little out of control ; A "wife" would never allow such things I suppose ???????????

                  John .

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:47 PM

Helo H-34

 A "wife" would never allow such things I suppose ???????????               

Hey John:

Mine does ... she sez she'd rather have me working a model at the kitchen table (when it's coooold outside) or at my workbenches, than be out foolin' around at some bar ...Cool ... she encourages me all the time and is most knowledgeable about what I'm building ...

pepper

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Posted by Gregbbear on Friday, January 28, 2011 4:57 PM

Ha ha John!  Wives are over rated anyways.  When I got married this last time, she took over half my closet for starters (more now) and started "organizing" my stuff.  My house was already clean and very well decorated, but she's ocd, and can't leave stuff alone.  They are expensive too!  She'd kill me if she knew half the model stuff I had.  My locker at work looks like a hobby shop shelf.  I should complain, she keeps me in line, and I probably need it.  I was a compulsive ebay buyer, and she has cured me of that.  And she isn't bad to look at either.

Thanks for the book info too.  I will pick up those books then.  It is just frustrating to order stuff, and it turns out to be useless except for entertainment value.  The A-20 in Action book I got is just that.  By the way, what kind of Phantom get the Texas flags on your decal sheet?  I have a Hase F-4E that would be cool to do in a Texas scheme.

Pepper, that Tigercat is what I was thinking about.  Pretty cool.

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, January 28, 2011 5:11 PM

Gregbbear

 what kind of Phantom get the Texas flags on your decal sheet?  I have a Hase F-4E that would be cool to do in a Texas scheme.

Hey Greg:

Probably Texas ANG I'm thinking ... and the Tigercat is just one of how many drone controllers ? ... in the old days, all the target aircraft were flown by controller aircraft and to keep things simple, they were usually of the same type ... that way, there wouldn't be performance differences raising their ugly head ...

And another 'drone' to consider is the Boeing 720 that the Feds flew into a ground target out in the desert to test a new fuel fire retardant ...

pepper

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, January 28, 2011 5:47 PM

Got any F-4D's Greg.....

                            John .

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:34 PM

Well the past 24 hours has been good for my Centurion. I painted the rubber tires on the road wheels and return rollers, the bare steel on the sprockets, idler wheels, and retunrn rollers that had no tires. Then it was a wash of Raw Umber over the inner face of the tracks to tone them down. And then some touchupsof areas needing it of the Bronze Green. Once everythign dried, the tracks were fitted on. Now I wanna reinforce them in place with glue, gget the outer faces of the tracks painted and it will be the home stretch. She's getting there finally!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:26 PM

Hooray!!! Great to see everyone getting lots of stuff done. Been away a bit myself trying to get stuff finished up. Finished off two GBs (Early Jets and Ho-229) so now I'm concentrating on this GB, Bear's Nightfighter and my B-29 for the NM. 

Base is starting to look like asphalt, just need to add the grass areas. Most of the civilian figures are done, now need to paint all the detail stuff. Funny how much trouble I had making a pair of heels till I figured out I could cut the ends off a round toothpick for the pointy ends. Surprise

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by MAC on Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:51 PM

Stikpusher  This it what i have chosen for the group build  Mas

  

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:10 PM

OK MAC, looks good to me. What are you planing to do with the figures?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Dr Win on Monday, January 31, 2011 2:54 PM

Pepper I wish more wifes, girlfriends or partners were like yours. My girlfriend doesn't understand why I have this hobby, at least with not living together she isn't on my case about it. Though she did like the 32nd scale Tiger Moth I made as part of her birthday present (she been for a pleasure flight in one the year before we met and I made her a model of the one she flew in).

An old collegue at a railway museum I used to volunteer at came up with a memorable (if slightly inappropriate) comment once  - we were standing on a summers afternoon watching an 1879 locomotive we had spent the last couple of weeks repainting being pulled out of its shed gleaming like a new pin, generally admiring our handywork when he turned to those present and said "women are very much like steam engines, they look good, smell good, cost you an arm and a leg, frequently cause you pain and you always want a go on someone elses..." How his wife put up with him I'll never know!

Anyways, an update on builds, the LA-11 is nearing completion and I shall be mightily glad when its finished. There is only so much polishing a turd that you can do. All it needs is decals onto the gloss coat when its set, then satin coat, glue on the remaining transparencies and peel off the parafilm on the canopy.

Also completed a couple of Italeri 'alto zero' M7B1s'. One is going on ebay and the other has been done as a Korean war one.

Stik, for my need entry into the group build can you put me down for a Hasegawa Damiler MK2 armoured car and a Damiler Dingo, both in 1/72nd. Ive already got the armoured car into primer, it just flew together in an hour, sheer joy after the LA-11!

Dr Win.

Pics below.

 

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..."

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, January 31, 2011 3:03 PM

OK Doc, your builds have been updated! Keep up the great work. The La is coming along nicely, and ya just gotta love those kits that fly together after a challenging build! It helps to recharge the batteries.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 9:16 AM

[quote user="Dr Win"]

Pepper I wish more wifes, girlfriends or partners were like yours.

(/quote)

I am blessed ... even on those nights when i can't sleep and get up at 3 in the morning to 'do just one more thing on the XXX' .

No painting today as it's snowing ... we had 3 days of 75's and woke up to snow and black ice this morning ... guess I'll keep pluggin' away on other models today ...

pepper

 

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