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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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  • From: Yangju, Gyeonggi-Do, Korea
Posted by the_draken on Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:24 AM

WIP Pics of the Lockheed jets I'm currently building.  Rather than a production line I ended up doing them separately.  There's just enough different on them that it made more sense.

Oh, and the first two are of the HUP-2 in progress...

Hasegawa bought the molds from AMT, who'd originally bought the molds from Frog...  A T-33.

Completed builds of the Hasegawa T-33 and the Gran F-80.  Might have well as done the Airfix kit over again except for the dropped flaps.

The Heller RT-33, which has the canopy on prior to respraying.  I still need to make the radio compass (fitted to all Recce a/c and to all USAF fast movers (F-80, F-84, F-86) which performed ground attack.  On the RT-33 it would have been on top of the rear seat equipment.  It was also fitted to the F-94's flying in Korea.  I've done one for my Starfire already and will do a few pics of it when I get it all painted and installed.  A PERFECT example can be found in the academy kit.  It's the little radome thingy that's kind of a rusty cream colour on the back deck of the Thunderjet.

My particular kit had a few shortcomings, no splitter plates for the intakes were included (I'm thinking that they fell out in the US when I opened it and it fell outta my hands) and ther's a defect in the canopy.  It's like a white or light grey pellet was included in with the grey ones during the plastic melting process.  There's a definite white streak INSIDE the plastic of the canopy.  I tried polishing it and nothing.  Yes, from both sides.  I'm also disappointed that the glass panes for the camera ports are dished in, but no clear parts are included.  I'm going to paint the areas flat black and then drop successive layers of gloss coat on them. On the Hasegawa kit I went with Flat black on the inner portions of the tip tanks, the Heller kit is getting OD Green, and the Starfire will get black.  I'm still not sure what to paint the radome on the Starfire.  I'm leaning towards white or rust just to be different, but radome tan is nice.  Just not freaking flat or gloss black.  The markings are black and that would just be too much of it on one a/c for me!  The T-33 will get markings for an F-80 unit and I'm going to search around for the markings for a Recce unit from Korea.  If nothing else, I'll just dump some F-80 markings on her.

Of the three kits, the Gran has the best detail, the Heller kit the best fit, and the Hasegawa the best combination of the two.  In a nutshell, none of them are nice.

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Posted by the_draken on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:31 AM

Heya Stik!

Here's finished pics of the HUP-1/2  It's built as the HUP-2 version.  Amodel 1/72 HUP1/2 is in DA HOUSE!

The kit includes a really nice engine and transmission that's barely visible when finished.  If I'd had more patience I'd have put some screen over the transmission inlets.  This is a serious dog of a kit.  Nothing fit well, the instructions weren't very clear, and the decals were VERY thin...  It turned out okay, all things considered.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:20 AM

Andy , Great work on the HUP-2  Toast

The WIP on the Lockheed jets are coming along nicely as well ;

Looks like you will have 5 or 6 builds done over just a couple of weeks .......Awesome stuff !

I've had a busy week on the home front , I've been wanting to build some new display cabinets for my finished models for a couple of years now as the other three cabinets are pretty much full .

I also needed to replace the old robe and dresser in the bedroom , so I was able to get my brother to come with me to the hardware and I bought some of those "Flat Pack" robe and drawer units ,

I  also bought 6 lengths of 2.4m x 600mm x 17mm shelving board  and 8 lengths of 1.8m x 600mm x 17mm board for the model aircraft cabinets . 600mm deep will be great for the larger 1/72 scale birds ,

Like the B-29 , C-97 , C-119 , C-121 and some more SB-17's . Anyway I finished the three robe cupboards and two draw units and I've moving kits around to make room for when I start the display cabinets .

I'll probably only have enough left in the wallet for glass sliding doors for the display cabinets and just use the same white board for some shelves and add glass shelves when I can afford them .

Unfortunatly I'll have to make room for the flat screen TV , which takes up a good chunk of the display place in one of the new cabinets and I'll have to get the power outlet and cable TV connecting plate

moved higher up the wall as well .

Anyway I'll try and get some airbrushing done over the next few day's , although my thoughts are distracted most of the time planning the new cabinets , especially now I have most of the material required

and I can start building at least two of them straight away .

Again great work Andy on the HUP-2 .

                         John .

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:12 AM

Draken Andy: Have to second what John already said, really sharp work on the Lockheed jets and the HUP-2 looks great!

John: Good luck on the storage shelves. I end up shoving everything I finish in a cardboard box since I don't have room to display anything.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:41 PM

Draken, your HUP 2 has been added to the front page. Very nice addition!Yes It seems like we have a slew of Navy Blue additions lately here. Nut I suspect were are gonna be seeing a few USAF NMF in the near future here. Now we need some more Soviet Green, Bronze Green, USMC Green, and Olive Drab subjects here next...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by the_draken on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:41 PM

Yeah Stik, you're right...  We need some variety.  Especially since my next addition is a nebula of Lockheed stars...  I'm working on the Starfire right now, but already have the RT-33, T-33, and F-80 kits done minus decaling.  I'm not sure what's next after that, but it's likely going to be more NMF.  I've got Sabres and Thunderjets on my mind.  The interesting thing about them is that I'm going to be building several different brands.  For Sabres I've got the Frog/AMT/Hasegawa/Heller kit, the Fujimi, Matchbox, and Academy/Hobbycraft kits.  I'll be doing one of the Matchbox kits as an RF-86A, another as a straight up A kit, the Fujimi and one Hobbycraft will be F's, the others will all be E's.  For T-birds I've got the Tamiya kit which I'll have on a diorama base and the panels all open, the Academy kit, and the ancient Heller kit.  I've robbed my previous Academy kit for weapons for the Heller unit so that it can have SOMETHING other than guns and fuel tanks.  I've still got that Lindberg LSU down and may delve into that ad throw some Haze Grey into the mix... 

Type to ya later folks!  Toast

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:41 AM

the_draken

Heya John! 

I don't remember who makes it, but there's a kit out of the AF-2W/S, it's from Russia and it's not a horrible looking little unit.  I've got one back in the states but can't remember the name of the outfit.  ISTR that it was a two-off run by that company.  They only did the two kits (S version and W version) and I didn't see anything else.  I could be wrong about that last bit, but I know it exists!

RVHP did the Guardians in 1/72 resin, 7298 for the AF-2S and kit 7299 for the AF-2W.

They look pretty good in the box.

John

John

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:24 AM

stikpusher

I suspect were are gonna be seeing a few USAF NMF in the near future here. Now we need some more Soviet Green, Bronze Green, USMC Green, and Olive Drab subjects here next...

Hi Guys:

Just now really  rolling on the Mig 17bis ... WIP photos later today ... don't know if I'm going to go with a NMF or not - hmmm ? ...

Then, back to the Bell 47 which will be finished in drab olive drab :-) ...

And then, maybe try another tank ? ... we'll see !! ....

As always, great builds,  guys !! ... it's a genuine pleasure to share work with others all around the globe ...

pepper

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:52 PM

Hi All:

As promised - some WIP photos ... if it desn't get too cold later this day, I'll start airbrushing ... who woulda thunk it but just a few weeks ago, it was way too hot to be painting ... last night we had a cold front move in and the temps are to go down into the low 30's before nightfall ...

Anyhoo, here you go ...

Parts is parts ...

Left side ...

 

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:55 PM

Ooops !! ...

Left side ...

Right side ...

Front view ...

pepper

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, November 3, 2011 3:18 PM

pepper kay

 stikpusher:

I suspect were are gonna be seeing a few USAF NMF in the near future here. Now we need some more Soviet Green, Bronze Green, USMC Green, and Olive Drab subjects here next...

 

Hi Guys:

Just now really  rolling on the Mig 17bis ... WIP photos later today ... don't know if I'm going to go with a NMF or not - hmmm ? ...

Then, back to the Bell 47 which will be finished in drab olive drab :-) ...

And then, maybe try another tank ? ... we'll see !! ....

As always, great builds,  guys !! ... it's a genuine pleasure to share work with others all around the globe ...

pepper

Glad to hear we will be having more color variety here soon PK(not that I dislike overall Sea Blue)! But isn't your MiG a 15bis? Not a 17. Different war(s) for that bird

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, November 3, 2011 3:45 PM

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stikpusher
 

Glad to hear we will be having more color variety here soon PK(not that I dislike overall Sea Blue)! But isn't your MiG a 15bis? Not a 17. Different war(s) for that bird

Ooops - you're right ... don't know why I keep calling it a -17 ... 'tis a -15 for sure ...

pepper

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Posted by the_draken on Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:27 PM

jeaton01

 

 the_draken:

 

Heya John! 

I don't remember who makes it, but there's a kit out of the AF-2W/S, it's from Russia and it's not a horrible looking little unit.  I've got one back in the states but can't remember the name of the outfit.  ISTR that it was a two-off run by that company.  They only did the two kits (S version and W version) and I didn't see anything else.  I could be wrong about that last bit, but I know it exists!

 

 

RVHP did the Guardians in 1/72 resin, 7298 for the AF-2S and kit 7299 for the AF-2W.

They look pretty good in the box.

John

 

I looked on google and found that the one I have is by ACE.  The same company that does so much Soviet armour.  Not a bad kit, at least, according to reviews.

 

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Posted by Gregbbear on Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:41 PM

Hey Fellas!  Looking good.  All I can do these days is lurk, but you guys make being a spectator still pretty enjoyable.  Unfortunately, I had too much studying to do on the weekend of the Korean War themed AMPS show, so I missed it. 

No bench time hasn't stopped me from spending money though.  I got a steal on a couple of AMT/Matchbox F-86A's, an M-40, another Priest, armored Jeeps, and a BA-64 armored car.  Darn ebay on my phone! 

I can't wait till Christmas break so I can have some bench time.  So, I will have to live vicariously through you guys in the mean time.

By the way, Squadron has some pretty good books on sale.  They are in the back of the flyer including:  Air War Over Korea, Mig Alley, F2H in Action, M3 Half Tracks in Action, US Tank Destroyer Walk Around, among others.  They run anywhere from $1 to $5, most for $3.

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 4, 2011 10:14 AM

Pepper: Very nice job so far on the Mig-something or the other Stick out tongue

Greg: Good to hear from you. I know how it is, I get less and less built these days but still buy stuff at the same or a faster rate Huh?

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, November 4, 2011 10:27 AM

Hot dang, guys:

Cold temps have arrived ... 33 when I got up this morning, but it's up to 67 now, so I'm going to try to put the first coat of paint on the Mig-15 ...

So, out to the garage I go ... I'm thinking I'll be finished with this one over the weekend ... photos to follow ...

pepper

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Posted by the_draken on Friday, November 4, 2011 10:56 AM

The Heller F-94B as a WIP!  I've include some detail pics of the Radio compass...

Yeah, I'll probably finish it before I go to bed...

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, November 4, 2011 11:31 AM

Lookin' mighty fine so far ...

Looking at that long canopy and the way it mounts to the fuselage, was it a real squeeze to get the back seater in and strapped down ? ... seems like you'd have to be a contortionist to do that ...

One note on the Tamiya kit I'm building now ... the plastic is very soft ... as I trim off the pour stubs from the sprues or scrape a wee bit of flash off, I've found I have to be extra careful and use very light pressure to keep from lifting plastic all around the areas I'm working on ...

Anyone have this problem ? ... this is the Tamiya Clear Edition Mig 15 ... don't know if the plastic is different or ? ...

pepper

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Posted by the_draken on Friday, November 4, 2011 11:51 AM

pepper kay

Lookin' mighty fine so far ...

Looking at that long canopy and the way it mounts to the fuselage, was it a real squeeze to get the back seater in and strapped down ? ... seems like you'd have to be a contortionist to do that .

 

As a matter of fact, yes!  In the kit the radar scope for the GIB is in the 'aloft' position.  I cut it and trimmed it,  then replaced the top of the scope so that it would be in the 'ground' position.  Fact is, the GIB rarely if ever left the cockpit safely in the event of an emergency, he had to push the scope forward and down to enable an egress.  The GIB was a very TREACHEROUS position in the Starfire...  The Starfre also had the thrust to weight ratio fo a brick with a herring attached.  With full ammo and fuel, it could almost get off of the ground in standard temp/pres/hum...  In the Guard, they often went aloft with underwing tanks.  God help them...

As an aside, when Kelly Johnson (the guy who CREATED the shooting star for the USAAC) saw the first F-80 lift off with the Misawa tanks and full war load, he turned his head hoping that it wouldn't crash...

One can only wonder what he thought of F-94B's leaving the ramp with full load and ammo...  Even with an AFTERBURNER!

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 4, 2011 2:47 PM

Draken that Starfire is coming along nicely! I am looking forward to seeing the completed build! Soemthing manacing in those bulky lines of that bird. Can I ask a BIG favor though? PLEASE stack your images verticaly, rather than side by side. This makes it so much easier to read all posts that follow since you dont have to move the screen side to side to read each line...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by the_draken on Friday, November 4, 2011 9:00 PM

stikpusher

stack your images verticaly, rather than side by side.

Wait a sec...  You're seeing them side by side?  I wonder why... 

This is a really interesting issue here.  I'm using Firefox and have done so on three different versions of Windows (XP, Vista, 7) and two versions of Linux and I've never seen them side by side, only vertical.    I remember a discussion a month or three back where someone was asking about picture size and I ignored it because I always see the pictures the same size.

Is this a browser issue?  Is it different in Internet Explorer v Firefox or Safari?  Or is it because you're the admin of the group and you're seeing things differently because of the abilities that you have?  I'm very curious about this...  Is anyone else dealing with side by side pictures or different sizes?  What browser are you using, if so?

And I'll do my best to try and remember to put a carriage return between each picture from now on. Big Smile  It's just the internet weirdness that interests me. 

 

Back on topic...  One of the things that you'll notice about my F-94 is that the canopy is opened.  It's always annoyed me that Heller put such nice detail in there and gives you a one piece freaking canopy!  So I took the razor saw and opened it.  I painted the inside of the tip tanks OD green for anti glare and went with a heavily weathered 'red' radome.  I painted it rust brown and then gave it a lot of radome tan for weathering.  The two dielectric panels on the tail are off white for the center one and radome tan for the tip.  Since the markings are all black I wanted SOME colour to this bird...  I'm also going to mix the serial numbers about so that it's different from the bird that Doc Win built.  I don't want to build the exact same kit as someone else on the build.

Have fun y'all!  Toast

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, November 5, 2011 4:32 PM

Pepper: Temperature falling off here too, the morning is back to frigging freezing and then very mild and comfortable by noon. Too bad I don't have a job where I can go in at noon. Stick out tongue

Draken: Very nice work on the F-94B.

 

Funny, I'm running the latest edition of Firefox on Win7 at home and Draken's photos come up in a regular vertical strip. And some version or other of Explorer at work under WinXP and the same. I do get weird formatting issues at times on the latter but not generally with Draken's photos.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:57 PM

Draken the side by side photos show up on my home computer when i am using explorer. that is my primary browser there, although i am using  google chrome and safari occasionaly these days as well. I do not like firefox. I am posting this from my phone where your images are verticly stacked. Go figure...   

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by pepper kay on Saturday, November 5, 2011 7:07 PM

A couplea questions for the group re sizing ...

Ofttimes, when I open this forum, the pages will extend so far to the right that I have to scroll, scroll and then scroll again ...

And every time I post photos, I see the yellow line at the bottom of each, telling me the photos have been resized ... supposedly, each is resized regardless of the size I post up -. as an experiment, with my WIP photos posted a few days ago, some of them were more than 3,500 pixels in width - some were only 500 pixels in width, yet they all looked the same regardless of the size I'd posted ...

Any suggestions to either question ? ...

BTW, I'm running the AOL 9.1  browser (an IE 7 clone I'm guessing) with Windows Vista ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by the_draken on Saturday, November 5, 2011 8:05 PM

Re:  Picture viewing

It's gotta be a function of how IE works with the FSM groups.  That's all there is to it.  I went back and tried Chrome on both of my home computers and everything was fine there, also.  I'm not all that enamoured of IE simply because of all the security issues, and dislike having to deal with so many ads (Adblockplus on Chrome and Firefox!), otherwise I'd give it a shot.

 

Re:  Lockheed stars

No new progress, the Starfire is nearly completed, I have to add the landing lights on the nose gear and the gunsight, that's it.  After that it's decals, decals, decals!  I might get to that today, as it's raining here in Korea and I hate dealing with going out in the rain.  Some idiot somewhere decided that polished granite is a cool thing to have in buildings and on sidewalks.  VERY DANGEROUS in rain and snow.  So.eday I hope to meet him in a dark alley whilst carrying a ball bat.  Two years ago I actually slipped and broke a toe because of that stuff!!!

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:36 AM

Andy , Great WIP on the Lockheed "Stars" .

I like the little 'thumbs' on the F-94 canopy , excellent work ; I did something similar on Italeri's F-8E Crusader .

Pepper , thanks also for the offer on those metal landing gear struts ; I saw some metal gear legs for the C-121 Constellation on the link you posted and there might be some others I'm interested in as well .

I ordered the Vacuform AF-2W along with the C-140 , so I will wait till they arrive and see what Airmodel suggest for the landing gear struts . I also ordered from Airmodel the RF-8 / TF-8 and F8U-1 Crusader III vacuform sets . I have a stack of 1/72 F-8 Crusader kits in the stash and I have already built two RF-8 crusader's using the Falcon vacuform sets and they came out okay ; I've wanted to build a two seat crusader for years now , so I look forward to them arriving in the mail .

Sorry there's been no progress on my builds this past week ...Embarrassed

Instead I've started building the new shelving and cabinets for my ridiculously large kit stash .

There's five cabinets in all and I started with a new bench top and shelving for the computer ;

Before ... 

I want to utilise as much of the wall space as possible , so I moved the Navy/Marine Corps cabinet and made room for the computer ;

After...

Tomorrow , I'll install the new Navy cabinet under the front window ;

Before ...

And the new cabinet will go here ;

It takes about a day to cut the shelving board to size , pre drill and carry each piece from the garage to the house and  upstairs , so I'll be on this for another four to five day's . Late this afternoon I cut the shelving board to size for the Navy/Marine cabinet , so first thing in the morning I can put her together and then add the glass shelves and start cutting more board for the next cabinet after lunch tomorrow ....

That's the plan !

                          John .

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Posted by pepper kay on Sunday, November 6, 2011 12:59 PM

Helo H-34
....

That's the plan !                         

John, as my dear Granny would say: "Good Grief" ... man, what a room ... goodness gracious, what I'd give to have cabinets like that ...

 I have a 'dedicated' shelf in the living room where I can put my  'bestest'  builds ... right now, just the P-80 and the F-86 are displayed ... with the exception of a 1/32 P-51 that I'm finishing to look like 'FRENESI'  -. a WW II aircraft flown by a great guy that I met and corresponded with for a number of years right up until he passed away ... he was an ace in both the Pacific theater as well as the European theater of action - everything else is carefully boxed and stored in a big cabinet out in the garage .... this one will also go to the living room shelf ...

I just sprayed the Mig-15 and disaster struck ... I don't know what went wrong but the paint pooled and puddled everywhere ... same paint I used on the F-86, P-80 and F-84, but this is just a mess ... after it's dried and cured, I think I'm going to have to carefully sand the whole airframe down and start over ... too bad I've not found any descriptions of Mig-15's flying as night fighters ... I could just paint the whole thing black and be done with it ! ...

Enjoy the rest of the weekend ... BTW, draken - easy as it goes outside ... don't want you breaking something ...

pepper

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Posted by the_draken on Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:10 PM


Well, I've got the F-94, the T-33, the RT-33, and the F-80 done!  WOOHOO!  I've got them at work, and remembered the camera, AND I remembered to take some pictures.  I have to wait until I get home to upload them as Photobucket is blocked at work and they won't let you log into the site with a proxy.

I rearranged my USAF shelf so that it no longer has any DPRK equipment (now on the shelf with all of the armour) and there is now room for all of the Lockheed 'stars'.  I'm not going to get rid of my original Airfix one even though it's not so good looking and was evil as heck to build.  I like the markings on it and they go well with the rest of the 'stars.'

As for the pics, I hope that they're okay,.  I tried to use a solid background (tough at this school) and had direct sunlight on the subjects.  They look good in the camera, but you can't always tell.

Type to y'all later!

 

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Posted by the_draken on Monday, November 7, 2011 3:43 AM

And here they are, in all of their glory, or not.

 

The Heller F-94B has a few minor issues, it has no fuel drains at the back end, the canopy is a single piece, the radar scope is set in the in use position, the gun ports aren't opened, and there's no gear bay detail at all.  Despite that, I made it into a decent kit, and included the AN/ARN-6 Radio Compass inside the canopy.  I also opened the canopy and chopped the radar scope to be in the ground position.  I'd also like to see some afterburner detail for this kit.  It's too bad that no ones made a photo etch or resin set for it.  The on KW unit to have decals is the one that both Doc Win and I used.  I'm sure that he'll agree, this is one of the most poorly done sets I've ever seen.  The instructions are incorrect in several ways, the USAF markings are too small, and they only give you port side no walk markings!  Enough for three kits, and not a single one of them is for the Starboard wing.  I trashed one in the process and then snatched some from an F-80 set.

 

Overall, not a horrible build.  Very basic, both in design and detail, this is definitely a kit that's long in the tooth and shows it.  Frog originally designed it in the late fifties/early sixties, it was re-leased in the US by AMT, and then Heller bought the molds when AMT switched to ERTL/ESCI for products following the demise of Frog/Novo.  Did you get all that, a quiz comes later...  The cockpit is incredibly basic, but does have control panels and sticks.  This is the only the second kit of this build that I've done that had pilots, so I used them!  Ther' is an absolute minimum of pretend detail in the gear bays, none of it accurate, and the main gear is incredibly fiddly and thin.  I was surprised that I never broke one of them!  One of the peculiarities of the F-80/T-33 is the strange fit of the tail.  Both this kit and the Gran Kit had a weird panel line seem and included the vertical fin with one side of the fuselage.  It was very difficult to fill and caused many issues.  I used Superscale decals and was danged glad that i always spray at least a single coat of clear gloss over the decals.  THIN!!!  Eventually everything went on satisfactorily, one of the intersting side notes is that nearly all of the F-80 units had one or two T-33's as liaison/hacks/spotters and the buzz number designation didn't change from the FT to anything else because it was considered a TF-80 at the time.

 

Oh, heck...  This thing was horrid.  I should've forked out the money for a Sword kit.  In many ways a knock off of the uber useless Airfix kit, it does have a few slightly interesting additions:  Gear bay detail, control panel, accurate seat, dropped flaps, and decals that are worth a dang.  It's made with an incredibly soft, almost translucent, white plastic.  There is flash all over!  I felt at times like I was building a vacuform kit.  The kit includes both standard and Misawa tanks as well as two bombs.  The decals are nice, thick enough to be put on without 2 coats of clear gloss, they're fairly accurate, the fit is acceptable, and they snugged down just great with Micro-sol.  The only thing to watch out for on the decals is that the wing do not walk areas are not a thin enough line and don't say "DO NOT WALK" anywhere on them.  The fit of the intakes is pathetic, and the fit of the wings to fuselage needed nearly an 1/8th of an inch hacked off of the inside of each wing.  This one's getting a serious DO NOT BUY from this modeler...

 

Heller's RT/T-33 kit is currently out of production and quite hard to find.  I ended up paying about $18.00 [USD] plus shipping for mine.  It's the easiest way to make a recce bird from a Shooting Star.  Wonderful interior detail!  The only thing missing was the radio compass that sits on top of the recce gear in the back seat.  Neither the standard nor the recce nose fit entirely well.  I followed the instructions and glue the nose together before attaching it to the fuselage (easier to install nose weight).  If I were to build this kit over, I think I'd do it so that I glued each have to the fuselage halves first.  Very little flash, easy assembly, straightforward and no issues.  I was a little disappointed that ther wer no clear inserts for the camera glass.  I was also disappointed because my canopy had a flaw in the top center of it!  A big white streak that was inside the plastic and was not a stress mark.  I've talked to a few people and the conclusion is that it might be tiny bubbles.  I ended up putting layers of clear gloss over flat black to  fill the indents for the glass.  As I couldn't find any easy markings for a recce group with RF-80's/RT-33's I went with the markings from an F-80 unit.  Maybe I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that some of the units had these birds for post strike BDA.

 

I'v3 learned a lot by doing this set as a minigroup build of my own.  I've got three more that I can do like this:  F-84's by Tamiya, Heller and Academy; F-86's by Matchbox, Fujimi, Frog, and Academy; and MiG-15's by Hobby Boss, Academy, and KP.  It's just as much fun learning how to do things differently and learning how different manufacturers tackle problems as it is building and displaying the kits.

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Andy Hill (the_draken) landrew.hill(at)live.com <*> ASE Master Auto Tech, Imaca certified.  >^.^<

PADI OWSI Certified, BA Poli Sci (NDSU), BS Secondary ED-Social Studies MSUM (Sigma *** Laude)

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 7, 2011 7:44 AM

Draken Andy: Yay, a whole constellation of stars! Great work and congrads on making something out of some 'dog' kits.

John: Very nice, gosh I need some display cases or something, I hate finishing stuff and sticking it in a cardboard box for lack of room.

SP: Ok I'm getting a weird formatting issue now, WinXP and some version of Explorer at work. Draken's photos are all coming up in a vertical row but the paragraphs won't format. Rather than lines each sentence is coming up in one long horizontal line that I have to use the bottom scroll bar to see the whole thing.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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