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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:40 PM

tiger, from what i have read, your right about the 251 Ausf C, and i have never seen pics of any in France at that time. And the Schwimmwagen deffinatly would not have been there.

Panzerwaffe, are you doing that S35 in the box markings or French.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:35 PM

tigerman

Manny, which tank do you have in mind?

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:16 PM

The classic Tamiya 251/1...I guess C....if not the Stuka is looking more and more tempting

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:11 PM

Hi Eric.......   I think I'll jump in too       (no micro build though,, ha)

This era, in my opinion, is absolutely one of the most interesting of the war......   I just ordered this kit Saturday, 8/13, so the timing couldn't be better!

Going to go with the Dragon 1/35 Pz 38(t) E/F. I'm not sure which variant yet though. I don't have the kit yet so I can't post a box art pic.

 

Count me in,,  should be fun

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:10 PM

I'm not sure about the Tamiya 251. Is it the C version or the D? The C was issued mid-40 from what I could find, which would make it awful close to the surrender. 

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:09 PM

tigerman

Carlos, the 75mm Pak 40 wouldn't qualify, they were issued in late 41.

&*%$#!^...Bang Head...early release???Embarrassed

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, August 15, 2011 12:03 PM

tigerman

Carlos, the 75mm Pak 40 wouldn't qualify, they were issued in late 41.

&*%$#!^...Bang Head...early release???Embarrassed

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:59 AM

Manny, which tank do you have in mind?

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:58 AM

Okay, let me catch up here.

Boyd, hop in when you can. I would think the 222 would be a pretty quick build

Bondo, we finally have some targets!

Panzerbob1, you threw me a little curveball. Since your build is on another site, I will allow it, assuming it hasn't been started or lightly at that.

Carlos, the 75mm Pak 40 wouldn't qualify, they were issued in late 41.

Darson, looking forward to the new Pz III E

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:57 AM

Manstein's revenge

Put me down for a small dio/vignette showing a French tank surrendering to German soldiers...

ahhhh...it would just be another fraud.....Whistling

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:54 AM

Put me down for a small dio/vignette showing a French tank surrendering to German soldiers...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:41 AM

Tiger

I'm really interested in this GB, but I got it in my head that it was going to start later and be longer... I'm worried that it will conflict too much with the Panzer III GB that I've committed to.

Having said that, I really, REALLY want to do this GB with an SdKfz 222. I figure it'll be a quick build, right? So put me down for that puppy (the new-ish Tamiya kit).

By the way, I should know this, but at this point, would German armor still have that cool grey/brown color scheme? I'll have to check my refs....

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, August 15, 2011 11:10 AM

Tiger,,,,,I'm in.....although not sure yet if aircraft or armor.....I just picked up Tamiyas Hanomag and 75mm anti tank gun. 1/35.....then again this might also be a good excuse to pick up that Stuka I've always wanted...I'll let you know..

Carlos

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Posted by panzerbob01 on Monday, August 15, 2011 10:59 AM

@Bobbaily;

Hi!  I'm another Bob!

For my 2c worth; do the Tristar Pz 38 if you have it or can get it cheap (the ausf B, E/F, and G kits are all around eBay and at shows for very reasonable bucks) - these are all super nice kits with great detail and go together very very well - just wrapping up an E/F as we speak and I loved the build!  And, as long as you take care and dry-fit things first, you will find about everything really goes together very cleanly and without lots of trimming or fiddle-faddle.   IF you do the B or G, you have the option of doing a Befehls-panzer with the frame antenna.Smile

Warning!: The B kit comes in 2 versions - with or without interior.  The interior is just fantastic stuff, but you will be taking on an involved job with lots of brass if you go there!  It's not for the PE-phobic!

 @All concerning the listed possibles:

I'm pretty sure No VW Schwimmwagens! Designed by Porsche in 1940, but I don't think any actually left the factory until later 1941, so they probably missed the Blitz in France...Whistling

Sounds like a cool GB!  I'm fingering my Dragon 15cm s.IG auf Pz.Kpfw. 1B and wondering if I can actually have any chance of getting it done for this...! But there are some other options in my stash...  Pz 38, Pz 1A, PzJgr 1B early, Kleine PzBefWgn 1B, SdKfz 223?

@The lords and moderators of this GB:

Can I "share" a build between this GB and a "campaign" on another site?  I'm hoping to be able to participate in both builds and could save some money and actually get something complete if I can use 1 kit in 2 places... 

BobSmile

 

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Posted by darson on Monday, August 15, 2011 4:39 AM

Hey Eric and guys, this GB sounds like it will be a lot of fun and I actually have something in the stash that fits the theatre and time period (for once).  Put me down for a DML Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.E.

Cheers

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:58 AM

tigerman

Yes, once I get this thread cleaned up (something happened when i save it) I will direct this to the A/C forum.

That would be "Bon!", because then I would add two models.

The Amiot 143 by Heller 1/72:

And the Potez 540 (same).

Both of these were frontline bombers that participated in the Battle of France.

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 15, 2011 1:26 AM

Sounds good Cliff. Welcome aboard.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:07 PM

TIgerman: Please put me down with a 1/35th Tamiya Char bis. I may end up doing a small dio with it and a German 37mm 'doorknocker' AT gun. I'll have to see how things work out.

I'll have to watch DP Andy's kit and try to go with on of the alternate schemes to the one he does.

Cliff

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:05 PM

bufflehead

 

 tigerman:

 

Hmmm, maybe someone can pinpoint the StuG B's timeframe even closer. I think there must have been if they produced them in June, for it was a 6 week war, therefore near the end of June with the armistice signed on June 22.

Bob, Ernest, glad to have you aboard.

 

 

The Battle of France only lasted 6 weeks?  My little A13 must have had a very short battle life!!  Guess that means I don't have to weather it.........much!!

Amazing isn't it? 6 weeks for something that they couldn't do in 4 plus years in the first war. However, 2 million soldiers, 1000's of A/C, over 2,000 tanks LOL= Blitzkrieg 

From most of what I've read and blah blah, the Phony War Sept 1939-May 1940, kind of lulled the French into a complacent attitude. They, perhaps more then any other combatant, were still shell-shocked from the horrors of the Great War. They lost an entire generation of men. They wanted peace. The Wehrmacht was just getting started and their tactics were superior.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:56 PM

bufflehead

 

The Battle of France only lasted 6 weeks?  My little A13 must have had a very short battle life!!  Guess that means I don't have to weather it.........much!!

Well, tanks don't just weather once the war starts, so you don't get off that easy Wink

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:53 PM

tigerman

Hmmm, maybe someone can pinpoint the StuG B's timeframe even closer. I think there must have been if they produced them in June, for it was a 6 week war, therefore near the end of June with the armistice signed on June 22.

Bob, Ernest, glad to have you aboard.

The Battle of France only lasted 6 weeks?  My little A13 must have had a very short battle life!!  Guess that means I don't have to weather it.........much!!

Ernest

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:49 PM

PANZERWAFFE

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Now THAT's a vehicle you don't see everyday!!  Too bad it doesn't qualify for the GB!

4-5 kits Rob??  Wow,  I'll be happy (and hard pressed) to complete ONE kit in time! Propeller

Ernest

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:48 PM

Hmmm, maybe someone can pinpoint the StuG B's timeframe even closer. I think there must have been if they produced them in June, for it was a 6 week war, therefore near the end of June with the armistice signed on June 22.

Bob, Ernest, glad to have you aboard.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:41 PM

bob, as i understand it, the StuG III B didn't begin production until June 1940. So i guess it would be possable that some could have caught the end of the conflict if they were sent straight from the factory to the front line.

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:41 PM

Sept. 18 will arrive pretty darn soon!  Eric, sign me up with this:

Should arrive from LuckyModel by the start date.Whistling

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:26 PM

PANZERWAFFE

BOB, ANDY - Think Eric has it in the title, Sep 18 2011 - Mar 1 2012.

Bob, were you going to do armor or aircraft?

Thanks Rob-yeah, I caught the date in the title AFTER my post....Embarrassed

Dunno if I'm going to do armor or aircraft-my choices are an 1/48 Airfix 109E3 w/aftermarket decals, a 1/35 Tristar Pz 38(t) at my LHS or the latest Cyber Hobby/Dragon Orange Box 1/35 StuG III B with some Archer transfers.  It's a combination of trying to be cost effective, accurate (some question if the StuG III B was involved or only the "A", if I read some of the earlier post correctly) and skill level required-I'm thinking the Tristar kit may be pushing my skills.  I had given consideration to a Tamiya D.520, but I don't want to have to try to do paint matching for a French plane....and I don't want to have to blend Tamiya paints.

Hope to make a decision by the end of this week and get something ordered or purchased. 

I'm looking forward to this GB.

Bob

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:22 PM

Thanks tiger, i hate to pass up a great GB, but the next year or so is going to be very hectic. But if theres the slightest gap, i am in.

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:20 PM

Bish

If you do decide to push it to Oct, i might, and its a very big MIGHT, be able to join in. I would love to take part in this, but can't commit to anything at the moment. But either way will be looking in on it.

Would love to have you. You can always jump when you have the time. As long as the GB is in progress, you can start anytime.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:04 PM

If you do decide to push it to Oct, i might, and its a very big MIGHT, be able to join in. I would love to take part in this, but can't commit to anything at the moment. But either way will be looking in on it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:56 PM

PANZERWAFFE

BOB, ANDY - Think Eric has it in the title, Sep 18 2011 - Mar 1 2012.

Bob, were you going to do armor or aircraft?

Correcto. However, if we decide to push it to October 1, I'm very cool with that. 

Andy, glad to have you friend.

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