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The unOFFICIAL 2011/20012 Veteran's Group Build
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:12 PM

For those who are interested in making a model of an item of equipment that they served on or with, this GBs for you. Or to comemorate an immediate family member who served but is not here or able to participate on the forums. Veterans of all nationalities are the focus here, but since this is an open site, and has members who have not served, but have a Veteran family member, that they wish to build for , those site members are welcome.

Rules:

The subject must be somthing military or military related- land,sea,or air. Civil subjects pressed into military service are acceptable- example: airliners chartered to deliver troops (or bring them home) to Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, or other deployment land are acceptable- the car you owned while stationed somewhere is not.

The subject should be something you served on or with- it should have personal meaning to YOU!. For Navy types, I know the ship kits out there are limited, so if the class of ship you served on is not available, a ship in the Task Force is perfectly fine- spending six months escorting USS Alfred E Newman across the Seven Seas is a significant event in a life, even if it is dull duty at the time. For those building in tribute of a family member, I know getting specific markings and info for their subject is difficult at best. Please at least try to represent their unit.

The kit may already be partially started- sidelined builds no more than 1/3 completed are acceptable

Crossovers from other GBs are allowed.

This Group Build will commence the day after Thanksgiving, November 25th 2011, 0001 hrs your local time,  and conclude at midnight Memorial Day, May 28 2012 Pacific Standard Time.  

Have fun, share, and swap stories- factual and otherwise, like we would over a cool frosty malt beverage at the local Legion Hall or VFW.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:13 PM

Participant roster:

Stikpusher: Italeri 1/35 M163 Vulcan (completed)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/stikpusher/models/033-5.jpg

Jeaton: TBA

Bondodad: M40 GMC

Rob Gronovius: Academy 1/35M998 HMMWV, Tamiya 1/35 M2 Bradley

RESlusher: Trumpter 1/35 BMP-3

gonavycv64: Revell 1/720 USS Intrepid

kbuzz01: Monogram 1/48 F-102 with C&H TF-102 Conversion, Hasegawa 1/48 P-51D (completed)

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/kbuzz_photos/Hasagawa%20P-51D/DSC01805.jpg?t=1331172144

dupes:  1/35 HMMWV, Real Models M1037 Shelter Carrier w/ S250 Shelter conversion

1SGDavis: Tamiya 1/35 M60A3

deattilio: MiniHobby 1/35 AAV-7, Hobby Boss 1/35 LVTP-7A

Scorpiomikey: Italeri 1/72 C-47

Daddy1: TBA

Chopper9994: Tamiya 1/35 M60A1, Tamiya 1/35 M60A3

Buffirn: AMT 1/72 B-52H

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r117/buffirn/AMTB-52H5.jpg

Hans VonHammer: Italeri 1/35 M109A3

 OddmanRush: Academy 1/48 F-16C (completed)

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/theoddsare/Academy%20F16C/IMG_0275.jpg

USMCSKI: 1/35 UH-1N (completed)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7328722964_462ac2292f_z.jpg

Lots of ground stuff here so far... Yeswhere's our flying and sailing things?Whistling some flyers n swimmers are starting to showSurprise

The badges:

1st completed kit-

2nd completed kit

 

3rd completed kit

4th build

5th build

6th build

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:13 PM

Saved for completed builds

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, November 18, 2011 6:45 PM

Hey Stik , like i said before i'm in Yes. Not sure what i'll be building yet . Hmm

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, November 18, 2011 7:03 PM

But I don't wanna build another one of these!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by bondodad on Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:29 AM

I've set up my Dad as this member. We are going to build a kit for the GB, the M40 GMC 155mm gun.

He served 1950- 1958 in the Michigan National Guard.

I'll let Dad post in from here as the history is his, but I thought it would be a good thing for us to do to introduce him to this circle of my friends and let him share his experiences.

Here's the two of us at Moffett Field several years ago when he hosted me on the B-24 with him.

You'll like him I know.

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:18 AM

Hello Bondomans Dad ..............Yes

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Posted by sub revolution on Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:26 AM

Bookmarking. Hope to see some good stuff here.

NEW SIG

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:44 AM

I'm in with probably either a HMMWV that I had assigned to me (that is a wide choice there) or one of the tanks I commanded (another wide choice).

There's also a "beute panzer" Iraqi T-59 that my maintenance team recovered and delivered to the Kuwaiti 6th Brigade Camp after the war in 1992. My guys got that thing started up (with the back deck off) and we rode it around the Kuwait desert for a little bit until all the oil spewed out; the oil coolers were attached to the underside of the back deck so as we rode, black oil blew all over the engine compartment. We eventually put the deck back on and towed it to their base.

Now to find a T-59...I know Trumpeter did one before they made good kits [shudder]...

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Posted by RESlusher on Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:12 AM

I've got a few options...

  1.  The Trumpeter up-armored BMP-3 I'm working on now...
  2.  The Tamiya M2A2 Bradley ODS that I'm waiting to finish...
  3.  The Academy HMMWV that' still on the shelf...

Decisions...decisions.

Hey Carlos!  You got any ideas for a GB badge yet?  

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:41 AM

Rob , i dont know what the "beute panzer" looks like , it sounds interesting . Yes

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Posted by gonavycv64 on Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:33 PM

So if we can do a build in honor of a family member then I'll do the USS Intrepid for my dad, whom I lost when I was four.  We both served on board the USS Constellation (20 years apart) but I've already done three different models of the Connie.  I don't know a lot of my dad's Navy career but I do know he served on board the Connie, Shang Ri La, and the Intrepid.

I have Revell's USS Intrepid and it's modeled after the ship during WWII.  I'll have to look and see what planes were on board in the 60's and find some in 1/720 scale.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:03 PM

Shellback

Rob , i dont know what the "beute panzer" looks like , it sounds interesting . Yes

It was German (WW2) term for a captured enemy tank that they put into German use. Literally translates to "Booty Tank", that's booty as in loot (pirate booty) and not as in "call."

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:47 PM

RESlusher

Hey Carlos!  You got any ideas for a GB badge yet?  

 

some great ideas here so far.... as far as the badge goes, I am gonna base it off the WWII discharged vets insignia, the "Ruptured Duck"

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:11 PM

Rob Gronovius

 Shellback:

Rob , i dont know what the "beute panzer" looks like , it sounds interesting . Yes

 

It was German (WW2) term for a captured enemy tank that they put into German use. Literally translates to "Booty Tank", that's booty as in loot (pirate booty) and not as in "call."

Thanks for the answer Rob   Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:14 PM

stikpusher

 RESlusher:

Hey Carlos!  You got any ideas for a GB badge yet?  

 

 

some great ideas here so far.... as far as the badge goes, I am gonna base it off the WWII discharged vets insignia, the "Ruptured Duck"

 

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/stikpusher/online%20photos/Ruptured_duck_pin.gif

Sounds interesting . "Ruptured Ducks G.B. ...............Whistling

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:27 PM

I never understood the term myself but...Hmm nahhh...

OK. I have the inital roster as of this eveing posted. When all you TBA's decide upon a kit, please let me know the specifics- maker, scale, variant, etc.

Bondo, which kit of the M40 will it be? AFV Club 1/35?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:08 PM

Stik - I plan to participate.  I guess I'm in the TBA group for now. I may build the 1:48 Hasegawa P-51D or might be goofy enough to try something beyond my talents like converting Monogram's 1:48 F-102 to a TF-102 and cross-build with Hammer's Monogram round 2.  Those two are the alpha and omega of my USAF time.

Ken

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:47 PM

Wow, talk about some serious bookends to your career KenYes I want to say some like Koster did a conversion to turn Monogram's Deuce into the TF-102. I will add you to the manifest with a TBA for nowWink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by dupes on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:08 PM

Ooooh, definitely in on this one (if only because I want to see Stik build that Vulcan!) Former intel guy, will be building a HMMWWV similar to the one we used to cart all of our electronics gear around in back in the mid '90s. Official designation unknown (and which manufacturer's kit I'm going with), currently...have to figure out exactly what it was.

I think I saw over in the GB feeler that you guys were discussing the shelters for the rear of HMMWWVs? I recently acquired a couple made by Real Model - items 35067 and 35068, they're listed as a M1037 shelter, and a S-250 shelter. Are those what you were after? Links here:

http://www.realmodel.cz/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3277

http://www.realmodel.cz/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=3278

Both look very similar to what we were using. Any info you guys could feed me about what base model to use to go either route would be highly appreciated!

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Posted by castelnuovo on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:17 PM

Now you are coming up with this GB SmileSmile I have alredy built the Camell and the Lancaster, my grandfather-in-law was flying them. I served on this ship but, as far as I know, nobody makes it as a kit.

Well, will be watching this forum to see where you guys served...

Cheers Smile

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:30 PM

Yes, the basic HMMWV that carried the S250 shelter was the M1037 Shelter Carrier. The same vehicle fitted with a winch was a different nomeclature. I never drove one so I don't know the M series number. Just saw it in the -10. for a basic HMMWV kit in 1/35 to use as a 1037 I would suggest either Academy M998 or Italeri/Revell Germany kits M998 or M1038

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/aca/kit_aca_13405.shtml

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rg_3027.shtml

http://www.spruebrothers.com/Nexternal/135-italeri-m998-hummer-command-vehicle-273.htm

How much did you pay for the S250 shelter Dupes?

EDIT- Dupes,looking at the kits, either the Acdemy M998 or the Revell Germany M1038 would be the best starting points in 1/35. And you are now on the roster.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 21, 2011 7:58 AM

The Revell M1038 HMMWV is my claim to fame. It was my O/C HMMWV during REFORGER 1990 (the Great Nerf Ball War). Our battalion had umpire duties for that exercise, but we did not have enough HMMWVs in an armor battalion to assign to each officer so the division's ADA battalion was tasked to provide HMMWVs for us.

We were in a snowy field during some down time when some guys came and took pictures of our trucks. HMMWVs were still relatively new to the Army and these were just a few months old.

We had a lot of down time because a handful of HMMWVs were representing tank companies and mechanized infantry companies. While tank companies and Bradley companies can find and attack one another, small groups of HMMWVs can easily pass each other by going down parallel trails 100m from one another and never know it.

We kept having to reset the opposing forces so they could fight.

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 8:13 AM

Mmmmmmmmmm...REFORGER '90!  I remember that one!  I was two days in-country when my company saddled up to go out on that one.  I remember Top sayin' "...If I can get you over to CIF, you're goin' with us on this!  No sense in you sittin' around the barracks and going to the NCO Club to nail our wives!"  Needless to say, I didn't make it to CIF to get my gear...Devil

Something else I remember is watching Armed Forces TV and seeing a story about the "unsung heroes of REFORGER" and them talking about the intel guys.  They opened up one of the MI battalions' TRQ-32s and showed all around inside it and THEN the icing on the cake, "...and here's some live traffic coming from somewhere in East Germany..."  I almost had a heart attack!!  Crying

I think a platoon leader got relieved and a bunch of people got Article-15s.  I don't remember whose it was for sure.  I wanna say 108th MI, from 8th ID; but I've slept since then!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 8:23 AM

dupes
Ooooh, definitely in on this one (if only because I want to see Stik build that Vulcan!) Former intel guy, will be building a HMMWWV similar to the one we used to cart all of our electronics gear around in back in the mid '90s. Official designation unknown (and which manufacturer's kit I'm going with), currently...have to figure out exactly what it was.

Say again??  Huh?  another intel puke??  That's gotta raise the property value around here!!  Big Smile  All these darn DATs and Gun-Bunnies gotta have someone tell 'em where the targets are!!  Propeller

Who was ya with, Dupes?  I was with 101st MI (1st ID, hence the avatar) in the sand-box and QuickFix platoon, 4th CAB (4th ID) stateside after ODS.

Seriously though, I gotta love my DATs and Gun-Bunnies!!  Silver bullets and Copperheads are a few of my favorite things!!  Bow Down

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 21, 2011 9:03 AM

My take on the intel guys are that they were great at messing with platoons and companies while we were trying to train, learn formations, break in new tank commanders, platoon leaders, etc. in smaller training areas like Grafenwohr or Hohenfels, but useless when we were in large scale maneuvers like REFORGER, Caravan Guard or the sand box. Any information that got down to us was either too late or too wrong (at that moment) to be of any use to the guy who has to creep over the ridge to determine where the enemy was.

The first indication of suspected enemy contact was simulator fire, not intel.

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, November 21, 2011 9:18 AM

No arguement there, Rob.

The problem had(has?) to do with the way information has to travel.  If I'm Joe Intel-Guy and find out that Ivan is sending a brigade of heavy armor into the area where LTC Gronovious is setting up shop, I can't get on the radio and give him a heads-up.  It's gotta go from my site up to battalion, brigade, division and back down and that's even if we're in the same division.  It's even worse if I'm attached to your division from another.  You know how that all works though. 

Much to my dismay, intel is not omniscent.  There are times when we were just as surprised as you were.  Bang Head

We still love you guys though!  Toast

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:51 AM

stikpusher

Yes, the basic HMMWV that carried the S250 shelter was the M1037 Shelter Carrier. The same vehicle fitted with a winch was a different nomeclature. I never drove one so I don't know the M series number. Just saw it in the -10. for a basic HMMWV kit in 1/35 to use as a 1037 I would suggest either Academy M998 or Italeri/Revell Germany kits M998 or M1038

Hmmm. I wonder why they label one of them as the S250, and the other one as the M1037? There are some minor differences...but I'd have to take a closer look to tell you exactly what they are.

stikpusher

How much did you pay for the S250 shelter Dupes?

I got lucky...both of them involved in a private sale for 11 bucks each. Surprise

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:53 AM

Reslusher - I was 502nd MI Bn out of Fort Lewis. Worked the Korean theater back when it looked like Korea would be a problem again! 98C with a KP modifier...not that I was very good at speaking Korean.

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Posted by dupes on Monday, November 21, 2011 10:57 AM

Rob Gronovius

My take on the intel guys are that they were great at messing with platoons and companies while we were trying to train, learn formations, break in new tank commanders, platoon leaders, etc.

Hmmmm...that sounds eerily similar to how things went at Yakima. Whistling

Rob Gronovius

Any information that got down to us was either too late or too wrong (at that moment) to be of any use to the guy who has to creep over the ridge to determine where the enemy was.

The first indication of suspected enemy contact was simulator fire, not intel.

And this, unfortunately, also sounds familiar. The biggest challenge was always getting what we knew to someone that it would matter too. Chain of command usually did it's best to prevent that.

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