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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:54 AM

      well done

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:23 PM

Nice work Bish,was eagerly awaiting the start of this!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:18 PM

Finally i am able to get a couple of pics up. Progress has been a bit slow due to one thing and another. But it should pick up now.

One issue was me loseing the cockpit floor and bulkhead. Assuming the cats had got hold of it i made a new one and was about to fit the fuselage together when the kit one turned up. So i fit that one in as it was better than my effort.

The seat is a resin one for the He 162 and the Me from a Me 262 set, though i have trimmed it a bit and moved a few bits around.

I now have the front fuselage together and you can't see muych. I have a bit of sanding and some re scribing to do next. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:57 PM

Thanks Tony ,glad you got something out of it! Appreciate the compliment!

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, August 13, 2012 7:19 PM

I think it's an exceptional model Trey. I've really enjoyed the WIP along the way too. Well done and I'll look forward to learning some more from your next one.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, August 13, 2012 4:37 PM

Thanks Bish!

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 13, 2012 2:33 AM

Interesting. I think i will give that a go next time.

Well, what can i say. Yet another stunner. Yes

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:03 PM

Bish you're right I put down a coat of floor polish or testors clear kote first,the dullcote hangs on to the tint to hard and it effects the color tone.

I'm calling it done,please feel free to critique

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:42 AM

Interesting that you use pastels. Am i right in thinking this is done to a gloss surface.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:39 AM

Thanks Bish I mix my own with ground pastels and a few drops of dish soap then thinned with water to the consistency I need.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:00 PM

I'll get some pics pics up at the end of next week. Progress has been a bit slow what with one things and another.

Great looking paintwork TREY. What are you useing for the wash.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:13 PM

Wash time

I had to scratch the trim tab actuator the carpet monster got the stock one

Ready for some dull cote

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, August 10, 2012 5:22 PM

Bish looking forward to seeing that scratch built office floor,shame about the cats, I can lend you my Dog for a bit if ya want he loves cats;)!

Decals went down good after a couple of coats of future and sone micro-sol

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:06 AM

I was able to get the bench set up at the weekend. But since i have moved in full time, the other half has kept me busy. It is under way but i have encountered a challenge i have had to deal with before. Cats. The cockpit floor was completed but has gone missing. I can only concluded that i have droipped it and one of the cats decided i was giving it to them. So i am now trying to scratch build one. Hopefully i can get some pics up during the week.

The camo is looking good. i don't think any paint scheme is 100% accurate. That looks accurate enough to me.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:26 PM

Bish thanks ,when we gonna see that Triebflugal start taking shape? I'm anxious ;)

Cammo is fini,I used a ref pic for the rt side and went with a mix of the instruction and some geuss work for the top and port surface. Its not 100% accurate I'm sure, but it will do for my level of building.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 6, 2012 2:27 AM

Much better now she has her legs. Looking forward to the paint.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:28 PM

Thanks Tony really appreciate the compliment!

Masked and ready for some paint!

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, August 5, 2012 4:46 PM

This is looking like one of the great buil Trey. Your work is impeccable.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, August 4, 2012 10:01 AM

I got the gear sorted and its sitting proper! The flaps are now in place as well. The canopy masking is next and then some painting.

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:35 PM

I've made a little more headway. I decided to reposition the nose wheel in concert with the rudder. I hope it remains strong enough to support the 50+grams of weight I had to add to keep it off its tail.

The canopy fit looks real good, The radar operaror top window shoulders into the wing roots and needed just a tiny bit of ca and some fine filing to get right.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, July 30, 2012 3:21 PM

I have heard that about the landing gear, i think it was a review on one of the sites. Same goes for the RATO pods, but i am sure i could spare a set from one of my Ar 234's.

Sweet looking build. Odd that such an advanced design had these old fashioned wheel spats.

Now if only i could get my hands on the Huma DFS 230. thats my holy grail kit.

I use PB and haven't noticed any difference since the change. I have never used Flickr so have no idea what the problem could be.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Real G on Monday, July 30, 2012 2:50 PM

Bish,

The Ju-287 is a lot better than the Triebflugel.  The overall shape looks pretty good to my eyes, and the kit bulds easily enough.  The panel lines are really trenchy thoguh.  Huma includes a tiny sprue of very fine detail bits, almost like P/E but in plastic.  The Walther RATO pods are best replaced with ones from DML's Ar-234.  The decals are like frosted Scotch Tape, so you should source aftermarket ones.  The landing gear are fragile, so I replaced the main legs with Plastruct plastic coated steel wire, and drilled into the tires to anchor them.  The wheels have those huge, ugly spats, so you can't see the wire going into the tires after construction.  Linky:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ntizumi/5829165057/in/set-72157626675319419

Sorry, I still can't figure out what the problem is with pasting photos.  Didn't have that problem before the website was revised.

 

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 30, 2012 2:23 PM

Ye, we are a bit spoiled. As a fan of Luft 46 aircraft, i will take what ever i can get. By the way, how is that Huma 287, thats on my to buy list as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Real G on Monday, July 30, 2012 1:39 PM

Bish,

We are actually very fortunate in this day and age, where even obscure prototype aircraft are available as injection molded kits.  When the X-Waffe bug hit me in the 1980s, they were extremely scarce.  I bought a bunch of vac-form and a few resin kits back then, but most have been superseded by injection molded versions.  I was chugging along with an Air Model Ju-287, but immediately ditched it when Huma came out with their kit.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 30, 2012 1:32 PM

Nice tip, thanks. I didn't realise the Arba kit was resin, i have just seen it mentioned. But i know what you mean. I have a few resin kits but keep putting off building them. Maybe one day lol

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Real G on Monday, July 30, 2012 1:23 PM

Bish,

One thing you might want to do is make some kind of jig to hold the fuselage straight up, so that when you are fitting the outriggers, they all touch the ground and the model will not tilt to one side.  I got lucky on mine without using a jig, but it took quite a few tries to get it right.

I know of Planet and Arba's resin kits, but I wanted a nice injection molded kit.  I'm lazy and spoiled. Big Smile

Anyway, good luck on your Huma kit!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 30, 2012 1:14 PM

Ye, i can see what you mean. I have been considering it to give extra support, now thats two good reasons.

There was/is a 48th kit by a company called Arba, who i had never heard of before, and a resin one from Planet Models. But no idea if these are still around.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, July 30, 2012 12:36 PM

Bish,

I only replaced the extenadable struts with brass wire.  My primary reason for doing this was that the moldings were poor.  Rather than trying to clean them up, I thought it was faster to just cut them away, drill some holes in the fins and outrigger bodies, and stick in some wire.  The outrigger bodies that the castors are attached to are not round either, but I decided to live with them.

I wonder if anyone will do a mainstream kit of this wacky plane.  I had hopes that AM Tech would follow on after their 1/48 Ta-183, but it was not to be.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:22 AM

Sweet. Did you replace the outriggers for those 4 small wheels. I know someone did that as they thought thge plastic would not be strong enough.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:52 PM

Bish,

Hmmm, the cut-n-paste for the URL is not working for me now.  Maybe some compatibility problem with the new web page?  I dunno, it's all Greek to me.  Anyway, here's a link to the photo:

set 72157626675319419

Let's see if that works.

 

 

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