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US CARRIER AVIATION GROUP BUILD 2013

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:38 AM

Back again with a small update. I have the wash on the lower wing completed. At first I thought I applied the wash excessively but after looking at a couple of pictures I feel a lot better about it. First the pics of the wash and then the actual planes. And yes I drilled out the dive flap holes. All 250-260 of them!!!

  

                   

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Posted by Greg on Monday, October 14, 2013 10:25 AM

Thanks for the straightening tute, Joe. I might have caught on about the boiling water from your 'making tea' comment. :) (But I didn't)

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 14, 2013 6:48 AM

Hey you guys. I got up this morning and painted the inside of the dive flaps red and applied a wash to the lower wing area. Landing gear is about done and just waiting on the tire/ wheel assy to be done. Will move on to fuselage starting tomorrow I think. Got to go over the instructions to make sure I didn't miss anything first. There really aint that much to this thing. I think the kit contents have around 40 or so parts in all.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:47 AM

I use a pot of boiling water like I do when I make tea. I usually grip the part with a hemostat or holding device and dip it into the water for about three seconds , pull it out and bend it to correct. If it doesn't want to stay formed I dip it back in for about 4 seconds and so on until it wants to stay formed the "correct" way. Works every time!

And by the way heat has a funny way of warping plastic. My garage temp exceeds the 100 degree mark. My 190 was a pain in the neck at first. Warped wing and fuselage parts!!

The stubborn decals are due to age I think. I've had the Hasegawa kit for about 14 years.

                   

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:22 AM

How does one go about straightening such a thing, Joe? I wouldn't have thought any structure would get hot enough to warp styrene. Wow, live and learn.

Do you attribute the stubborn decals to the heat as well? 15 min soak is very long, didn't know that could happen either.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:22 AM

Here we go fellas. I got up this morning and was actually able to get some stuff done. For those of you who were (and still are) on the Butcher Bird GB with me you will recall that I had warp issues. Well..........guess what? Going through it again! I would like to take this opportunity to tell all of you who don't know to get your stash OUT OF THE GARAGE if you live in Texas! Particularly South Texas. Mine is indoors now! Anyhow the first two pictures are of the dive flap before and after straightening and the third is an update on the lower wing. A little unorthodox way of building I know but I've got a plan in place...............

Before making tea

 

 

..........and after making tea. I notice a small warp or twist. Gonna have to make another batch of tea! I do like taking pics of progress. It makes me notice imperfections BEFORE I install the parts!

and the lower wing. Man these Hasegawa decals gave me a lot of trouble wanting to break free of the backing. I was finally able to force them to move after about 15 minutes in warm water! They literally "broke free" !

  

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:57 PM

Greg

Poor dog, she didn't do it on purpose. You already know that.

Outside of her OCD for licking herself to pieces and using the indoors for the outdoors and being deaf  she has all of her wits intact. I give her a lot of attention due to the fact that she's living on borrowed time already. .

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:38 PM

mustang1989

Pictures of the floor or the bird? lol.....I should have some photos tomorrow or Monday depending on how much I get done tomorrow morning.

the bird, man, the bird!

 

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:15 PM

Poor dog, she didn't do it on purpose. You already know that.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:12 PM

Pictures of the floor or the bird? lol.....I should have some photos tomorrow or Monday depending on how much I get done tomorrow morning.

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:56 PM

Pictures please! After dog mine removal of course ;-)

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:31 AM

Well folks I got up this morning and was able to weather the landing gear and gloss over the lower wing. I re-painted the windscreen which still needs some touch up but I think its gonna be ok. I was going to go further but was interrupted by my 15 year old dachshund takin a crap in the floor!!!!! She's getting to be a full time job lemme tell ya!! You gotta love her though. She's a sweet old girl! lol

                   

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Posted by Greg on Friday, October 11, 2013 3:29 PM

I think I got it straight now, Stik. :)

That dark blue styrene threw me off. :)

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 11, 2013 3:14 PM

Oh this is getting Twilight Zone now... ;-) Whats funny is that when I started this project, there was an early AM resin/white metal set from a company called Medallion Models out there that had the cockpit parts, engine, etc. Unfortunately I could never lay my hands on one (pre internet days). They also did sets for the Monogram TBF and F4F kits ( I did get the two F4F sets to correct & detail the Monogram kit engine cockpit & landing gear, and the second set to make it into an F4F-3). So beyond the parts I could not scratch for this SBD, it was an old teenage build of a TBD that I chose to sacrifice to salvage parts from for this project.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, October 11, 2013 2:29 PM

You know stikpusher I have the Confederate Air Force Ghost kit as well and I have the Detail in Scale book on it. Ha ha!! Not only the same Monogram stuff but also the same boxing and the same reference.

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 11, 2013 12:32 PM

Greg, this is a new build kit, not a rebuild of an old kit for me. The dark blue is the color that the plastic originally came in. Yes, I bought this release (Monogram's Confederate Air Force Ghost Squadron boxing) at a LHS in the early 90s.

My previous early 1970s build of this same kit (I remembre building that one with my dad sitting on the living room floor) was disposed of when I came off active duty in the Army and I got out all my stuff that my other had put in storage.

When I finally decided to build this kit, I bought the Detail and Scale book, and decided to use components salvaged from a Monogram TBD to improve the cockpit. As they were both Douglas aircraft and photos in books showed many of those components to be very similar, if not identical. But as the build went along, the D&S book showed more and more areas needing correction/alteration. Of course, in the meantime, first the Hasegawa, and then the Accurate Miniature SBD kits were released...

But yes it is a fun project, and a nice trip down memory lane as well. Thank you for the kind words.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Greg on Friday, October 11, 2013 10:22 AM

Stik, I'm confused (a normal state for me). Why was the airframe exterior a dark blue and why did you have to strip it? Nice strip and repaint job, btw. I thought you started out with a new kit, same as you built all those years ago?

Looks like a fun project and trip down memory lane.

I like very much like your Evergreen styrene rod push rods, btw.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, October 11, 2013 6:27 AM

Well folks I was going to get up this morning and work on the landing gear/ lower wing area and the dang power went off line at around 2 this morning and came back on (wouldn't you know) at about the time I am wrapping things up at the bench normally at 6 am. Oh well. Progress report tomorrow.

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:45 PM

Thank you, but I don't see it as "that good". I see all my flaws, and know I could have done better on the older work nowadays. I just know that it is now better than the original kit.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:43 PM

If it makes you feel any better 1) we'll just stick with departed on "that other place" and 2) I feel the same way about the "better than original" on mine. LOL Big Smile

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:41 PM

I think that I may have posted it over on the dear departed original SP&R. Thanks for the kind words. I see all the flaws in my work and dont see it as THAT good... just better than the original ;-)

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:35 PM

I remember this now. I saw it on another forum we were both on last year. Man you are knocking this thing WAY out of the park pal!!!

                   

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:08 PM

Yes, it will be an SBD-3. And I will still be building that A-4E as well here.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:00 PM

I added it to the list. What version of the SBD is it? An SBD-3?

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:51 PM

Thank you for the compliments. You are the host. As it has been such a long WIP and never completed under a couple of GBs, I would not ask to have it included here, but... since you asked, I will finish it up under the banner of this GB here. Especially since the finish line is so close for this one apparently. I know that today with all the little tricks that I have learned since this was begun in the 90s I could do the interior better but hey, it will never get finished if I keep sidelining it. I plan on building it in the markings of an aircraft that served on USS Wasp and at Guadalcanal after Wasp was sunk.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:31 PM

That's some really nice work, stik! How about adding it to this GB? I want to make it annual, so you could just throw in an update when you want to continue work on it. There won't be any time frame for this one. It's just a suggestion though...

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:47 PM

Then finally, last year as I was working on a new TBD build for the 1942 GB, I decided that since I was painting that one, I amy as well boot myself in the rump and get more done on this too. So with the same Aeromaster Warbird Acrylics (sadly a discontinued paint line), I apinted up the 1942 colors of Light Grey and Blue Gray used on the SBD on the airframe, wheels, etc.. I also stripped off the original paint from the TBD prop using Polly Scale/Testors Easy Lift Off

Then since I had deadlines on other projects for GBs, and then I had to move again since then, this project is sidelined once more. And it sits on a shelf, as is, as this is written...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:40 PM

and finally the last stumbling block- the rear gunner twin mount .30's. Originally I tried using some guns salvaged from other aircraft kits like I did with the cowl guns, but none looked right. Then I bought a Verlinden 1/48 US aircraft machine gun set and tried scratch building the mount, but the .30s appear a bit overscale, and I was having terrible results scratchbuilding the remaining mount. But once I decided to pirate the engine from the Hasegawa A-24 another idea hit- I plan on building my A-24 as was used early in the New Guinea campaign in 1942. Those aircraft were produced with only the single mount guns, so I decided to pirate that kit's twin .30's for my project here. A test fit showed that they were not overscale like the Verlinden guns

so once this project came off the sidelines for more work again last year, I painted them up too

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:33 PM

My remaining two stumbling blacks were the engine and the twin mount .30s for the rear gunner. So again it sat sidelined due to this, other projects being more interesting, and other reasons. Originally I was going to use a resin KMC Wright 1820 engine so I bought it and built it, as you can see from the post above. But Ilater learned that it was the wrong version, being of a later type than carried by any SBDs. That stalled me for a long time until Quick Boost came along and released the proper type of 1820 for the SBD-3 for both the Hasegawa and AM kits. I  have a few Hasegawa SBDs in my stash ( a -3 and A-24), and figured I would buy the QB engine then pirate the Hasegawa engine into my Monogram kit and do what I needed to make it fit. But on a whim I decided to see if the QB engine would fit my previous work done for the KMC engine. It fit... perfectly! I had already swapped the kit's SBD-4 propeller for one salvaged from that TBD since that looked far closer to the -3 propeller, and a  unneeded spinner takn from a Hobbycraft P-35.

so I proceeded to add the needed push rods from styrene rod (gotta love Evergreen Products) to the QB engine and paint up the whole shebang

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:21 PM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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