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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:59 PM

Just got a notice- BACKORDERED!

Conan, do your bidding. I want to hear the lament of their women!

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Posted by P mitch on Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:37 AM

I'm looking forward to start this on the weekend. As I'm doing Iron Man I'm tempted to see it I can light it which may slow me down a little but the rest isnt a complicated build so why not challenge myself!

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by shivinigh on Thursday, October 3, 2013 5:56 PM

got a start on my spiderman. started with the statue.I know he isn't a gargoyle but I am going to call him Bruce. Started with a black primer.

than used different shades of grey oil paint to try and replicate concrete

going to wait a few days for the oil paint to dry thuroughly and than weather it some more with acrylics

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, October 3, 2013 6:12 PM

Shiv - looks right on.  At this point to me, it looks like polished stone - which is cool.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 3, 2013 6:27 PM

Needs bird doo.

That looks really cool. It looks like granite, which is appropriate.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:04 PM

Yeah nice Shiv, I was thinking it looks like polished granite too.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, October 4, 2013 8:53 AM

Shiv,

That's coming along nicely! You've definitely gotten the stone texture down. A few years ago I worked with a colleague in the art department on this model. We toyed with the idea of using natural metal on the eagle like the Chrysler Building.

However, because we were under a stiff review deadline, we didn't do it. Maybe one day ...

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, October 4, 2013 3:05 PM

Great jump-off, there, Shiv. You can almost feel the cool of the granite through the picture!

Here are the semi-obligatory sprue shots of the old Superman kit, as rereleased by Revell around 1999 with a changed/resculpted head. Though it's not as horrific as some of the reviews I'd read lead me to believe, that new head needs work: it's a bit too large, that forelock needs toning down a bit, and the weirdly arched eyebrows will have to be fixed. (I know there is an aftermarket resin of the original Aurora head design available, and I'm not ruling it out, but I'll see what can be done with the kit's first.)  So far, my only concession to aftermarket stuff is a sheet of Archer Fine Transfer eyeballs, should be fun.

With the exception of the hands, which are badly pitted and pin-marked, the rest of the moldings look okay considering their age. A quick dry-fit showed parts fit is generally atrocious, so I'm looking at lots of puttying and sanding of body parts.

Have a great weekend, everybody.

Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, October 4, 2013 8:17 PM

Wow, stainless steel would be awesome!

Superman looks like a real challenge. Those hands, looks like he stole em from the mouse! Three fingers?

I am not going to have my guy for between 48 hours and 48 days, according to M in M! Let's hope its soon. But, I will need a few Vlogs to learn the basics as I've never built a big resin fig before. No idea where to start. Pins in the arms? How to hide the seams?

All new to me.

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Posted by NucMedTech on Friday, October 4, 2013 9:23 PM
Hi everyone, looking forward to starting. May not be 'til next weekend though, I'll be heading out to ASMS's model show tomorrow and Sunday will be a clean-up day to prepare for Han's start.

- Stephen

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 4, 2013 9:33 PM

Greg: Wow, that head does look... odd. To me he looks kinda like Jordan Hembrough from 'Toy Hunters'.

Ya know you could always turn his 'S' backwards and make him Bizarro Wink

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, October 4, 2013 9:58 PM

Gamera

Greg: Wow, that head does look... odd. To me he looks kinda like Jordan Hembrough from 'Toy Hunters'.

Ya know you could always turn his 'S' backwards and make him Bizarro Wink

My first thought was that it looked like a young Martin Landau. My second thought, I kid you not, was Bizarro.

Definitely something a little strange.

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 7, 2013 8:12 AM

Hmmmmmm, yeah I can see Landau there too!

Ok, both figures are primed. Only big hang-up is the white metal disruptor pistol for the Romulan figure had vanished - right off the workbench. I've looked everywhere and am starting to really get annoyed. The darn thing is pretty big, about an inch / 3 cm square and hasn't been anywhere outside the bedroom where the bench is. Anyway going to try to spray the flesh on this evening, maybe I should leave it for last but it seems the face and hands should be easier to mask than the uniforms on both figures.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, October 7, 2013 3:12 PM

It's great to see you guys getting underway.

I have to finish up a review model that Aaron roped me into before starting on Conan--but it won't be long now, by Crom!

GMorrison: I use pins, and depending upon the joint, I will use either 2-part epoxy or think super glue (CA).

As for disguising joins, I really like Kneadatite 2-part putty. It doesn't shrink, and you sculpt it while it's soft. You can also sand and file it once it's dry.

The first vlog should be this week, so long as I remain sane.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:58 AM

After thinking about my Superman's "weird head" off and on over the weekend, it fairly quickly came to me that part of the oddness is due to the fact that the basic proportions are wrong.

It's a good rule of thumb in facial anatomy that the distance from the chin to the center of the eye should be roughly equal to the distance from the center of the eye to the top of the skull. In this regard our Kryptonian, as modeled by Revell, is rather seriously deficient:

His hair on top is noticeably flattened. It's almost like they molded him with the top of the skull lopped off, with a little hair brushed over to cover it up.

I did a quick, very crude lashup in MS Paint to alter the Satanically-arched eyebrows, and add a little profile to the upper part of the head, and this is what I came up with:

I think it's a bit more "normal" looking, at least for a non-human alien. On the downside, it exacerbates the chief problem, which is that Revell's re-molded head is too large for the old body, to start with. But one problem at a time.

While I'm performing the required surgery, I think I'll add a little tendon definition in the neck, as well.

(BTW, Tim, thanks for the tip on the Kneadatite putty.)

Up, up and away!

Greg

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:47 AM

Nice looking work so far. Resculpting Superman's head should be fun, if nothing else, Greg.

Tim Kidwell

I have to finish up a review model that Aaron roped me into before starting on Conan--but it won't be long now, by Crom!

Excuses, excuses.

Tim Kidwell

GMorrison: I use pins, and depending upon the joint, I will use either 2-part epoxy or think super glue (CA).

As for disguising joins, I really like Kneadatite 2-part putty. It doesn't shrink, and you sculpt it while it's soft. You can also sand and file it once it's dry.

Ditto for me. I really like Aves Apoxie Sculpt for blending seam on figures. It's easy to work with, can be smoothed and feathered with a wet finger while it's soft, the dries hard but still sandable. Also doesn't shrink.

Tim Kidwell

The first vlog should be this week, so long as I remain sane.

Too late, methinks.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 11:10 AM

Ouch Greg, does no one do an aftermarket head for Supes? I've seen them for other figures.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 11:57 AM

Gamera

Ouch Greg, does no one do an aftermarket head for Supes? I've seen them for other figures.

There are several versions available, including a re-pop of the Aurora original, and quite a convincing version of George Reeves. It would be both logical and rational to get one of them.

Logical...rational...nope, doesn't sound like me. (At least, not until after I've tried the "pain and aggravation" path first. As the old saying goes, "If it was easy, anybody could do it.")

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:14 PM

Ahhhhhhh, I see what you mean - go for the challenge!!! 

Hmmm, I think I have a spare Peter Cushing head somewhere but it would probably look kinda strange...Stick out tongue

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:36 PM

Gamera

Hmmm, I think I have a spare Peter Cushing head somewhere but it would probably look kinda strange...Stick out tongue

Yeah...strangely epic!

(Plus, think what a beautiful speaking voice he'd have!)

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:27 PM

LOL- that's awesome!!!!

I was thinking what Super Van Helsing could  do to Dracula!

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:04 PM

Gamera

LOL- that's awesome!!!!

I was thinking what Super Van Helsing could  do to Dracula!

Ah, yes, but in that convoluted scenario, the Count might well take on some of the characteristics and/or powers of General Zod. Could be a messy business before the dust settled.

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:48 PM

Haha! Hope Lex Luthor's new baldness cure doesn't cause him to grow hair all over when he contracts lycahthrophy.

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:10 AM

Hey all-looks like we (the wife & I) will be relocating at the end of the month.  With the move and the new job, I'm not confident that I will be able to devote much if any time to the Green Goblin over the next few months.

However, I will be following this GB-it will be a great learning experience just to see how you guys address the various 'opportunities' of some of these kits.

Bob

 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:48 AM

Bob,

Congrats on the new job!

We'll leave you signed up. If you find that after you get into the new digs you have some time for the fig, you're welcome to jump back in. If not, that's totally cool and completely understandable.

Good luck with the move!

Tim

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:52 PM

Thank you Tim-hopefully the dust will settle shortly after the move and I can meet the deadline.

Bob

 

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Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:54 PM

My congrats as well, Bob, on the new job, and all best wishes for the move. Hope things go smoothly in both departments!

Greg

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:11 PM

gregbale

Yeah...strangely epic!

(Plus, think what a beautiful speaking voice he'd have!)

General Zod: A foundation has to be built on something. Even your father recognized that.

SuperCushing: You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: Where is the rebel base?

General Zod: Uh ... Son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!

SuperCushing: Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

General Zod: ... 

 

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Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:55 PM

Tim Kidwell

General Zod: A foundation has to be built on something. Even your father recognized that.

SuperCushing: You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system! I grow tired of asking this so it will be the last time: Where is the rebel base?

General Zod: Uh ... Son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!

SuperCushing: Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

General Zod: ... 

You forgot my absolute favorite one:

SuperCushing: "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances."

Greg

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, October 11, 2013 10:25 AM

Happy Friday!

OK. I hope to have my review model off my workbench in the next week, which means Conan is now on deck.

It may interest you guys to know that Moebius has some new figure kits coming, including the '60 Adam West Batman and Superman from "Man of Steel". I think they have Zod coming, too. There's also a 1/6 scale Robot from "Lost in Space". Saw them at iHobby Expo. By the way, this video ate up all of my vlog time for this week. Plus, Aaron took the day off, the scoundrel.

Good to see work getting underway. Very interested in what will transpire with Supe's head.

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