I listened to them both together, and ye, you can hear the difference. I found the English version on you tube. Apparently it was broadcast by German radio to Commonwealth troops in N Africa in 1942. Now that was nice of them.

Great information Jack. Thanks.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays everyone!  Hope everyone is having or will have an awesome Christmas!

Eagle90

Ditto what Eagle90 said.  Happy Holidays to all.  I'm traveling for the next week and to those who are also on the road;  be safe.  Looking forward to starting the GB when I return.

Best to All,

Don

Happy holidays to everyone!!!

put me down on the list. going to tackle eduard 1/48 Mk.IXc spit.

Hi Randy, sorry to be scrooge, but The GB is open to armor, softskins, and arty.

tigerman

Hi Randy, sorry to be scrooge, but The GB is open to armor, softskins, and arty.

It's a HUMBUG!!! 

Seriously, Merry Christmas to everyone!  

Merry Christmas everyone!

We're getting close boys. I might crack open the box and check out the goodies later today. Pics to follow.

Can't wait to get started on the Bishop. Was looking at my kit today and oddly Esci didn't include the limber to go with it. The Bishop always towed one along with it. Did some searching online to find an Esci 25 pdr kit with the limber but no luck oh well.  

tigerman

We're getting close boys. I might crack open the box and check out the goodies later today. Pics to follow.

Pz I DAK box already cracked open!  This is probably the first of your GBs Eric that I started building at the opening date!  Previouly I didn't get started until near the end of the GBs. 

I am leaning Pz III for this one Eric....

Eric-a little change in plans-I'm planning on building the 1/35 Dragon Sherman Mk II-the El Alamein kit

Probably won't get started for a while-still getting settled in and trying to decide where I'm going to setup the airbrush.

Cleaning the work bench tonight!  First I'm cracking open the bubbly!    and then right after cracking open the plastic bags of the DAK Pz. I!

Hey Don, built same Dragon Kit for Pz III GB in 2012 - III Late Ausf. J Vorpanzer - excellent kit. Photo below. Armor86

Almost start time - assembling everything to begin Dragon 6779  Panzer IV Ausf. D DAK Smart Kit with DS Track; pick up a Friel ATL-02 Track set; noted kit reviews and previewing the kit parts found it lacking in regard to the vehicle tools provide - May use tools from another kit and order Tamiya Pz IV tools set. Have a Tristar IV D (015) and Pz IV Road Wheel Set to vary different road wheels; early Jerry can set; have several super Panzer IV Dragon kits (3 in 1).

Photos

Sweet build Dan!

Ernest, glad to have you at the starting gate for once. LOL

Bob, no sweat. I got you down.

I guess I will wait until tomorrow to crack the box. Just a bit subdued right now.

Happy New Year and Welcome 2014!!  I think this is going to be a good year for modelmaking!!

This is the earliest I've ever started a GB!  Lets hope I finish in time!  

The open box!

A couple of AM accessories I've had for a few years.   Lion Marc corrected idlers and Adler's Nest MG13 metal gun barrels. 

And a few roadwheels cleaned up and started working on the suspension!

Dan, nice selection of kits you got there. That road wheel set looks handy.

Nice to see you making an early start Ernst. Going to be digging mine out of the shed later, but there two to do before I start that.

armor86

Hey Don, built same Dragon Kit for Pz III GB in 2012 - III Late Ausf. J Vorpanzer - excellent kit. Photo below. Armor86

Nice looking stuff guys!!!

I broke out the Crusader and since I had the day off got a good bit of work done on the suspension. One question here though- I'm assuming the tanks left the factory in UK bronze green and were repainted in sand. So I'm assuming in the nooks and crannies there might be some bronze green left? I've started painting the kit that colour and will spray her sand when assembled leaving a little bronze green on the bottom and under the fenders etc. I think this is right- any issues here?!?

Great question Cliff, but if they knew they were heading to the desert, might they have been sprayed in desert-yellow?

So I'm thinking of Dark-yellow or whatever color was prevelent with Panzers in the desert with some sponging of dark grey to show wear. Is this a better move then the hair-spray method? It just seems a waste to spray it twice.

Wish I could help you Cliff, but I know almost nothing about British armor in North Africa.  

Eric, I've been thinking the same thing for the last few days.  I was planning on using the h-s method on the Pz.I B, but I've had pretty good results with just drybrushing/sponging dark grey over the sand color to represent the paint wear.   That's how I did this old Tamiya Pz. II a few years ago.

The effect is rather subtle though.  The h-s method might yield more dramatic results.  I may try experimenting with that on a scrap turret first.

Thanks guys, I'm going with the bronze green in the nooks and crannies unless I find out something different. I can always take a brush and get in there and paint over it if I have to.

That Panzer IB looks great Ernest, now I'm wondering if could use the same sponge method with the bronze green! I think I'm just going to skip it though as well as the Caulter (sp?) scheme and just go with the sand and do her as an experiment in shading and colour modulation. I've tried it a few times on olive drab and liked the results- this will be the first time on a yellow/tan vehicle.

Best research I've seen on British camou/vehicle colours is that by Mike Starmer:

http://www.mafva.net/other%20pages/Starmer%20camo.htm

I'm not sure definitely where British desert vehicles were painted, but back on page nine of our thread I had posted a war film of equipment being painted at a workshop in Egypt.  There is the odd dark vehicle in the background (waiting to be painted?).  So maybe some, many, all? were sent over in their European scheme?

There is also this well known photo of a shipment arriving in Egypt, and to me they do look dark:

You're probably right in going with a simple one tone scheme for the Crusader.  Only the first few Mark I's of that type carried the Caunter system, and by October 1941 the scheme had changed to just one disruptive colour over the base.  By the beginning of 1942, many vehicles were just finished in one desert tone.

regards,

Jack

Well, I got started on my Sd.kfz.222 yesterday morning.  Here's a few pics of what I got together....

the chassis

the upper hull - I filled in the indents for the jerry can racks

Hey Jack, thanks! That's a wealth of useful information there.

Greg: Good to see you coming along. Hopefully I'll get some photos up sometime this weekend.

i did the tamiya DAK one a few years ago. assumed it was overpainted when it got to africa so the interior of the turet, under the fenders and behind the markings stayed gray.i base coated it gray, painted the yellow and i think i tokk 1500 sandpaper and sanded off some yellow on the edges.

The MII looks very convincing Ernest.
Any 221 scouts around on the African scene?

What brand and color did you use on that Pz. I Ernest if you dont mind my asking?