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  • Member since
    January 2014
  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 6:19 AM

So, after a couple hours Stick out tongue this build is done!!

First off, here's the WIP on the final salt weathering:

Starting on the wing:

Fuselage salting:

Top salting:

Results:

Final addition of delicate parts that surely would be broken off if I had installed them at the step in the instructions:

And, here she is, war weary and ready for action:

In conclusion, loved the Airfix version of the Lanc. As I started off saying, i did the Revell B.I earlier and it really cannot compare to the Airfix offering. Airfix offers finer detail (antennas, guns, engines, weighted wheels), better build dynamic (strong through fuselage spars), better wheel well detail, superior decals, better molded clear parts. My only critique is the rough textured plastic and no clear plastic windows for the ventral portholes. Really enjoyed this build and I have several more Airfix 'new tooling' kits in my stash. Moving on to the 1:72 O'Mania GB and the 100th Anniv of WW1 GB. Will keep on cheering on my mates here on their finishes. 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:13 AM

Allen: Great work on your Tiffie! I love those gun bays!

Rob: You nailed the finish on that one! Very impressive work! Just tell me the picture you want to see on the front page and I'm gonna add put her up there!

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:40 AM

I`m thinkin` the 3rd shot. Thanks!!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, April 11, 2014 8:05 AM

I got her added to the wall of fame!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 11, 2014 8:44 AM

Rob, now that's really nice. But I have never seen salt used like this before. So, have I got this right, you just sprinkle it on and leave it. How long does it stay on for.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 11:48 AM

Bish, here`s the method: I use a thick brush to brush warm water on the surface (in sections depending on the size of wing surface). I prepare a dish with salt cracked out of a salt mill (best, you get a better variety of salt sizes and shapes). I sprinkle it on over a cookie sheet and then move it around with a smaller brush to conform to whatever shape I`m looking for (for the Lanc, I moved the salt away from the panel lines). I then use a hair dryer on low air and high heat and start with the air blowing a few feet away (you`ll see the moisture evaporating). After that, I shake the surface over the cookie sheet to relieve the loose stuff, then start airbrushing. Sure, you`ll blow off small amounts but the salt has had enough time to melt a bit to adhere to the surface. It will stick for the most part. The best part is if you are not happy and want more, you just repeat.

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, April 11, 2014 12:07 PM

Rob - super job on the Lancaster.  Yes

Interesting variation on the salt technique, so in essence you've added salt stains to surfaces?

regards,

Jack

edit... forgot to ask, but do you add a clear coat afterwards to protect the salt staining?

  • Member since
    February 2014
  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, April 11, 2014 12:23 PM

Great looking Lancaster!

I got my decals on, stowage finished, lights painted, and a wash to start the weathering done over the past couple of days.  Got so caught up I forgot to take pics as I was doing it.  

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 11, 2014 4:24 PM

Bob, looking nice, be nice to see this on the front page.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jibber on Friday, April 11, 2014 5:06 PM

Rob that Lance is terrific, it looks like she's on the runway and ready to go. The wires are very taught, I would think in a build like this that would be one difficult job. Very nice detail to that Zombie, great build.

Terry

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Posted by CodyJ on Friday, April 11, 2014 6:40 PM

Thats a really cool LCVP!  Nice progress!

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:24 PM

Jack: actually, no, not salt stains. I used a dark grey spray on the black and a muddy mix for the upper surfaces. The rinsing phase washes away any salt staining.

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:26 PM

Way to go on that LCVP...almost done!! Excellent work

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:27 PM

jibber

Rob that Lance is terrific, it looks like she's on the runway and ready to go. The wires are very taught, I would think in a build like this that would be one difficult job. Very nice detail to that Zombie, great build.

Terry

Terry, the tautness is a result of EZ-Line...love that stuff!! 

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, April 11, 2014 7:29 PM

jgeratic

Rob - super job on the Lancaster.  Yes

Interesting variation on the salt technique, so in essence you've added salt stains to surfaces?

regards,

Jack

edit... forgot to ask, but do you add a clear coat afterwards to protect the salt staining?

Jack, also, I realize in my description, I did not mention anywhere that I actually used my airbrush...sorry for the mislead Embarrassed

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Posted by jibber on Friday, April 11, 2014 9:18 PM

EZ Line eh….In my spare time I build tall ships and theres no way to tighten them except through any number of blocks and deadeyes. EZ Line eh..

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:06 AM

Rob: Your Lancaster looks fantastic. Congratulations on finishing it up and for doing such an excellent job on it. I have to chime in also on your salt technique. I too have never seen, let alone heard of, this particular use of salt before. It definitely surprised me with the results. Just goes to show you that no matter how much you read, watch or learned through experience there is always more skills and techniques to fill your tool box with. It has truly been a pleasure to build along with you Rob, as well as get to know you.

sb: The LCVP is outstanding. You have definitely applied some really choice skill to that..

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:23 AM

Many thanks Joe!! I've only been a member of this site a few months and I've already picked up several new techniques that I've never known or tried. One of the first questions I posed when I joined the site was on weathering black surfaces and I got tons of responses, including salt weathering (which I'd heard of, but, never tried). I tried it on my last Lanc and liked it enough to try it again. Pin washing with oil based paint is something I just tried on this last build too. Jury's out on that one, but, gonna try it again on my next build till I get it right. You really do need to use odourless turpentine!!

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:30 AM

I just started a new build on the 1/72 O'Mania GB. Very quiet over on that GB and I encourage anyone active on this build to have a look at joining!!

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:55 AM

I have a few aircraft that will have black undersides, including a Lanc I think I might give that a try. I have seen the new 72nd GB, but I am going to wait until I  have completed some of those I am already in before committing to another. I have decided that I am not going to do cross overs or commit to GB's unless I know for certain I can commit to it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:30 AM

 Pin washing with oil based paint is something I just tried on this last build too. Jury's out on that one, but, gonna try it again on my next build till I get it right. You really do need to use odourless turpentine!!

I personally prefer pin washing with oils myself and I am still working on perfecting that technique. I strongly suggest using Turpenoid. It is a weaker variant of odorless turpentine and works very well. I thin artist oils with this and I love the results.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:32 AM

Hmm, That quote of Rob came out in an odd format. Can't say as I have encountered that before.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:02 AM

JOE RIX

 I personally prefer pin washing with oils myself and I am still working on perfecting that technique. I strongly suggest using Turpenoid. It is a weaker variant of odorless turpentine and works very well. I thin artist oils with this and I love the results.

Yup, bought a bottle of Turpentine, opened the cap, and lo and behold, my whole apartment reeked of Turpentine instantly!! I went out, sucked it up (cuz the price almost knocked me off my feet) and bought a bottle of Turpenoid from Michael`s ($27 Black Eye). I did use a 50% off coupon though!! Still....

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:07 AM

Rob just a little oil paint with the turpenoid goes a long way, it can really darken it up unless you keep it thinned and I use different oils depending on the base color of the build. Thanks for the tip on EZ line i'm going to look into it.  

Terry

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    August 2009
  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:36 PM

jibber

Rob just a little oil paint with the turpenoid goes a long way, it can really darken it up unless you keep it thinned and I use different oils depending on the base color of the build. Thanks for the tip on EZ line i'm going to look into it.  

Terry

Terry, EZ line is simply a must have. It is just incredible stuff. I forget the hobby shop that carries it but you can find him on ebay. Just search "EZ Line". Prepare to be amazed.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:41 PM

I bought my EZ Line from Wingnut Wings. It was prob expensive ($16) but no shipping costs, so, that's why I went with it.

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:41 PM

For those that haven't seen my post in "The Longest Day" GB.....

Well, managed to get a little time to work on the turret today.  I even took a step outside my comfort zone and textured the turret. Surprise  Here's a few pics.

 

I still need to take some 200-grit to knock down some of the high points.

Tags: M4 , Sherman

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:30 PM

Have to admit Greg, you do pretty darn good working outside of your comfort zone. Very nicely done. Did you use Mr. Surfacer to achieve that effect?

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:13 PM

Joe: yes, it's Mr. Surfacer(500) from the jar.  I, at first, brushed it on, then I realized I should dab it on.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by Jsmyth on Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:32 PM

Its been about a month and a half since I have worked on my B-17 for this group build. I have seen all the great work going on and tried to find some time to work on my model and today was that day. I worked on my cockpit and bombardier areas. Here are the pictures from todays work. I hope you all enjoy them. Sorry about some of the blurriness.

 

 

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