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PACIFIC CARRIER AVIATION GROUP BUILD

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:16 PM

Found out that this is proving to be quite a test in patience and skills though as this model definately wasn't meant to be built as a bird with the wheels and flaps up. Here's where I'm at so far today....

Here's a wing to show one of the flaps up, the outboard flaps on the wings after the "bend" were the easiest...

Then there's the matter of the flaps directly near the fuselage, before the "bend" if you will....
First off, on the starboard side of the aircraft, one of the flaps has a square missing, I believe this is the foothold or what have you for pilots, I read in some review that the earlier corsairs did not have this, I can't remember when they added it but I looked at some photos of the birdcage corsairs and they did not have this.

So with my limited supply of sheet styrene I cut and sanded out a piece to fit the top half of the flap, and glued it in...

Unfortunately though my sheet styrene is too thick to be able to do that to both sides but not thick enough to cover up the hole on the bottom half...

So I filled in the hole with putty, it's deeper than I wanted it to be, but at least there is a bottom for the putty to sort of adhere to.

This is what both flaps look like, I needed to remove the tabs on the end, and the thing hanging off the side on the smaller flap.

In addition, where the flaps are now going to be, theres a bunch of empty holes that you can see where the tabs were inserted,


When I dry fitted the flaps on, you could see the holes, so I had to fill them with putty...

Here is one side of the flaps dry fitted, still have a lot of work left ahead on just the flaps, but the good news is after this there isn't to much to be done construction wise.

-Josiah

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Posted by oortiz10 on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:15 PM

Looking good Josiah.  If (and it's a big if) I get in on this GB, it'll be with Tamiya's F4U-1D.  A little different than yours, but it's still good to see your progress.  Gives me some idea of what I might be up against.

Hey, just as an FYI, that cut-out in the flap is a step, but you did the right thing filling it in on your build.  Here's what one of my reference books says:

The cut out step in the inner flap section was only on the right side, and it was found on late F4U-1Ds and all F4U-4s.  It was not a production standard on F4U-1s or F4U-1As, however, because the flaps were interchangeable, some of these earlier Corsairs may have had them fitted as replacements.

Just thought you might find that interesting.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

Cheers,

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:58 PM

Josiah, nice work, and interesting question about the flaps.  

From what I can tell from this manual, the flaps would be up during flight and combat:

http://rogerdodger.net/files/F4U_Checklist.pdf

regards,

Jack

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:15 AM

jgeratic: That's a nice page to reference.  I'm always looking for things like that.  

ygmodeler4: I remember hearing recently how the bomb window on the underside of the Corsair was eventually omitted on the D variants.  They were left or painted over on the -1 and  -1As but I think they were left off the Ds.  I would check that out.  =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:39 AM

ajd3530

Question for you guys. Did the Fleet Air Arm opperate Mk. XV Seafires in the SE Asia theatre? If so, does anyone know where one could find decals for any of those units in 1/48? Thanks!

The first Seafire XV's were on route to the Pacific theater just as the war ended, but would be operational there post war.
Both Xtradecal and Model Alliance have a single XV on their respective Seafire themed decal sets.   Freightdog set looks to have several options:
regards,
Jack

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:33 AM

Hey Josiah, Wow, You are doing terrific. It appears to me that you are tackling all the alterations quite nicely. I regret that I was distracted from the forum for a bit but, it looks like you got the answers you were looking for and have handled them appropriately. Bvallot brought up the point of the lower fuselage window. From my references concerning the 1A the window was indeed installed but, was often simply painted over. Yet, I would consult references on your particular aircraft to verify that.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:28 PM

Thanks for the comments guys,

O, thanks for confirming that for me, glad I remembered correctly.

Jack, thanks for that  checklist, helps a lot.

Bvallot, I remember reading that somewhere recently as well, thanks for confirming it Joe, I figured that was the case and was hoping as well as I didn't try to be neat with the glue inside the fuselage.

Thanks again for checking it out guys

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, January 31, 2014 11:35 AM

You are doing some great work indeed, Josiah!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, January 31, 2014 11:36 AM

Tal Afar Dave

For clarification, this is the pacific carrier aviation GB....but, it is restricted to World War II??  If not, I may continue on with my original F-4 Phantom build as I plan on building one that supported carrier operations over Vietnam.  What are your thoughts??

Thanks,

Dave

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but yes, it is WW2 only...

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, January 31, 2014 6:45 PM

Thanks Clemens....

Well here's where my Corsair stands until I paint it which will probably be a couple weeks when it warms up.

-Josiah

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Posted by Raven728 on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:00 PM

Hi SchattenSpartan, I'd like to join up if I can. Unfortunately, I can't offer much variety as I was planning to do the Revell 1:49 Corsair F4U-4. Wink Thanks!

- Steve

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:28 PM

The more the merrier! I'm talking about group build members and F4U's both of course!

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:19 AM

You're on the list, Raven! Welcome aboard!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:22 AM

Some of you might have wondered why there is no badge for this GB yet. That's because I can't come up with an idea I really like. Do you have any wishes on how you want it to look (a particular plane for example)? Last year's GB had a badge with a Corsair and one with a Wildcat, so I'll go with a Hellcat for the American badge and a Zero for the Japanese one if nobody here wants anything different.

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Saturday, February 1, 2014 8:47 AM

Hellcat and zero sound fine to me

-Josiah

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:48 PM

Too easy; I can adjust to WWII.  I'll get back with my kit choice soon.

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:54 PM

Cheers, Clemens.

I would like to join the group build.  Last go-around I made up some 1/700 Wildcats for a model of USS Lexington in February, 1942.

Now, I need some SBD Douglas Dauntlesses for a 1/700 scale USS Enterprise at Midway.  With your approval, I'd like to construct both VS-6 and VB-6, using Trumpeter's 1/700 scale planes, and Starfighter Decals markings for the two squadrons.

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:20 AM

Welcome aboard, Checkmate! How many Dauntlesses are you going to build?

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:06 PM

Thanks, Clemens.

I'm not sure how many come in the box.  

According to the after-action reports I found on the internet, both VS-6 and VB-6 had 18 planes in each squadron, plus the CEAG's aircraft--Lt. Cmdr. C. Wade McClusky.  It was McClusky, leading the scout bombers, who located Kido Butai for the dive bombing attacks.

I'm working on Enterprise for the Hollywood Group Build, and left the hanger deck open, so I'll need 4-6 planes to fill up the space there, plus some for the flight deck.

However, many I have, I'll just split them up between VS-6 and VB-6.

I'll get around to posting some photos of the box, parts and the after-market decal sheet I'm going to use, later today.

Thanks again.  I enjoyed the first carrier group build you hosted Looking forward to this one, too.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by taxtp on Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:53 PM

Hi Clemens, I'll change my build rfom a 1/72 F6F-3 to a 1/72 Eduard F6F-5and use Superscale 72-735 to make an aircraft from VF-17 'Jolly Rogers' in 1945.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:46 PM

Clemens, Due to the fact that I am getting a late start here and that I have taken on some other outside commitments I am going to put the F4U Corsair aside for now. Instead I will be building the 1/72 Eduard F6F-3 Hellcat. I haven't decided on which aircraft yet but, it's a toss up between the evil "Grin" of VF-27 off the USS Princeton or Alexander Vraciu's Hellcat of VF-6 from USS Intrepid. This should be a little more time friendly for me. Thank You.

Tony, I'm looking forward to your 1/72 Hellcat. Funny, I was not aware that the "Jolly Rogers" flew the Hellcat in '45. I'll have to look into that.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 10, 2014 1:37 PM

Checkmate: I got you posted to the build list!

Tony: No problem, I changed it for ya.

Joe: I changed your entry. If those tiny Eduard Hellcats are half as good as their 1/48 ones, this is going to be a nice build to watch! I hope you get to that Carsair in the future though. I'd love to see you build it. Maybe you have more time when round 3 kicks off (hint, hint)

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, February 10, 2014 5:15 PM

Thanks, Clemens.

Here are the boxes.  The box on the right came with Trumpeter's USS Lexington kit (which I haven't built yet; but I've been using the planes).  The other one is the after-market purchase.

I counted up all the Dauntlesses, and it seems I have thirty of them--far more than I can fit on Tamiya's Enterprise, but that's where I'll start.  I figure I can fit 4-6 on the hanger deck, and some more on the flight deck.

The rest, I'll put in markings for the Yorktown and/or Hornet, but I'll decide that later.

Here's a sprue shot with a comparative U.S. one-cent piece.  The black thing to the right is a piece of fuzz that I eliminated already.

The decals I'll use came from "Starfighter," which is a very good quality set.  It also included markings for the three Yorktown-class carrier flight decks in 1/700 scale.

And last, the finishing instructions from the decal sheet.

I've got six of the planes cleaned up.  Now I'll get on with masking off the canopies, then start painting.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:41 PM

Hi Clemens, all!

I have the Trumpeter 1/32 Dauntless SBD-3 "Clear Edition" sitting in the stash since November 2012.

Have a couple of other GB's that should require attention but the kits have been boxed up and sent to Germany and my relocation there has been delayed.

Best Regards

Johan

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:18 PM

Wow! those things are tiny!

Hey Clemens, I'm gonna put in for a 1/48 Eduard Hellcat Mk. II weekend edition for this build as well, I'm waiting for it to get warmer to paint about 3 models so I figured I'd get this one to the painting stage as well.

It's a british hellcat that was stationed on a carrier during okinawa in '45 so it should fit within the constraints of this group build.

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 14, 2014 3:04 PM

Got her added, Josiah. It definitely qualifies!

Johan: I just noticed you are from Swizerland. Herzlich willkommen! Big Smile

I added you and your Dauntless to the list.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:37 PM

I'm finally getting ready to start cutting sprue on my Hellcat. I've got to admit that I am rather excited to build my first Eduard kit. Other than the extras common in a Profipack I will also be adding the exterior PE set and True Details seat.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, February 17, 2014 1:46 PM

Hi Clemens,

Thank you for that Big Smile

I have only just started but already managed to loose the Oil Cooler in sub-assy 5 - E16, 17, 18 & 21.

No biggy but I will not be able to take advantage of the clear parts.

The cockpit floor and main assy with the clear hull side and engine cowling visible for reference. I wont be able to use the clear parts to their advantage.

The general idea with the dashboard is that there is a film that should be applied behind the clear part.
I will follow advice given on the assembly and drill out the dials on the clear part before painting.
  

I have drilled our the the ring to allow for the cabling to be inserted. That was tricky and I don't think I am there quite yet - at least 2 out of the 18 holes are ruined.

And it is Sweden / GothenburgBig Smile

We buy Swiss watches, they buy our jets Cool 

Very Best Regards
Johan

Edit.
Some advice please...Propeller
BTW how close am I to Zinc Cromate Type 1 with Tamiya XF-71 Cockpit Green (IJN)?
Should it maybe be closer to XF-4 Yellow Green? 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 17, 2014 2:59 PM

Joe: Looks like a nice kit to me!

Johan: Sorry 'bout that. I only knew Gothenburg in Switzerland Wink You're making some nice progress on your Dauntless. Engine and cockpit look really nice! If Zinc Chromate 1 is the untinted one, you're way off with XF-71. It looks more like Interior Green (tinted ZC). Untinted ZC has a yellow color with a slight green hue (I use XF-4 and I really like the color). What are you going to paint with that color?

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, February 17, 2014 3:22 PM
No worries Clemens :)
The instructions call for Zinc Cromate Type 1 for the interior, both engine bay and cockpit.
They dont tell you what thatbis though
The reference pictures I have are inconclusive, or rather - both green and yellow cockpits are out there.
Yellow seem to be more common on pictures from the time where as greenish seem to be more common on restored objects and kits.
I take it you would suggest XF-4 is a close match to what would be correct for the Douglas SBD Dauntless?

Very Best Regards
Johan
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