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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, January 5, 2015 6:04 AM

MC -- nice start! I built an Israeli S-199 a few years ago, using Aeromaster decals, and it came out very nicely indeed. It's one of Hobbycraft's better tools.

I made a start today after wrapping my last two tanks and officially ending my 2014 tally. I opened the Airfix E-4 and Hobbycraft -D, and am working on cockpits and wings, my usual 109 starting subassemblies. I'm aiming to paint the cockpits in the morning, along with gear legs, doors and bays, all in 02. I'm not exactly production-lining these two, but back-to-back builds looks doable, especially as the Hobbycraft 48th scale is at about the same level of complexity as the Airfix new-tool 72.

M/TB379

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Posted by handiabled on Monday, January 5, 2015 6:37 AM

Hey very nice work so far..... The wife and I ran away for a while and it took me a while to catch up on all the work done by this Group so far... I did however come home to a box on the table from the postman so my 109 should hit the bench later today

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, January 5, 2015 7:44 AM

I finally got some time on the last day of my vacation to work on my 1/72 109.

it's at least a start.

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, January 5, 2015 9:31 AM

mustang1989
modelcrazy:Man you're off to a start on that for sure! What schemes are offered for that kit?

The kit offers 2 different Israeli markings and 1 Czech. It's going to be easy as the entire AC is painted in RLM 02, everything except for the office interior which is RLM 66.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, January 5, 2015 9:34 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys. you really are way too kind. Embarrassed

I'm not able to access my computer right now, so I'll keep it short.

Jelliot, I got two big Hasegawa G-6s in my stash and those kits come with decals for one of Hartmann's mounts. I won't be using those decals though because I'll build one of them as a JG 300 aircraft and the other one as Barkhorns machine (the other marking option in the kit). I could send you the decals if you are interested.

BTW, I never built a single 109 before either...

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, January 5, 2015 12:05 PM

SchattenSpartan

Thanks for the compliments guys. you really are way too kind. Embarrassed

I'm not able to access my computer right now, so I'll keep it short.

Jelliot, I got two big Hasegawa G-6s in my stash and those kits come with decals for one of Hartmann's mounts. I won't be using those decals though because I'll build one of them as a JG 300 aircraft and the other one as Barkhorns machine (the other marking option in the kit). I could send you the decals if you are interested.

BTW, I never built a single 109 before either...

SS I sent you a private message.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 5, 2015 12:05 PM

falconmod

I finally got some time on the last day of my vacation to work on my 1/72 109.

it's at least a start.

John

OOOOOOOOOO, that's better. Now we have a 72nd aircraft, the world can go back to spinning. Thanks for saving us all John. And nice start.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, January 5, 2015 12:15 PM

Thanks Bish,

 But I think I need to touch up my interior,  it's too light.  Didn't have any interior 109 information,  I'm still on 190GB paint Surprise

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by Greg on Monday, January 5, 2015 12:24 PM

Jelliott, glad you joined up! I'm sure you will enjoy the GB.

Raider I Am, looks like few of us 109 first-timers here, cool!

I hear you re the intimidating Luftwaffe schemes. I botched my first one, but the second was and is satisfying. Got all kinds of help here, great learning environment with all the nice folks here.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 5, 2015 12:27 PM

John, only just remembered you are doing a G. For that I would go for an RLM 66 pit, the same as the 190. Looks like you have gone for an RLM 02.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, January 5, 2015 2:12 PM

Seatbelts....

-Tom

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, January 5, 2015 2:15 PM

Looks good to me Tom!!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, January 5, 2015 2:43 PM

Those look real tom, did you put a 109 seat into a miniaturization beam?

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, January 5, 2015 3:34 PM

modelcrazy

Those look real tom, did you put a 109 seat into a miniaturization beam?

I second that. They look great!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, January 5, 2015 3:40 PM

Greg

modelcrazy

Those look real tom, did you put a 109 seat into a miniaturization beam?

I second that. They look great!

...........and I'll third that!!!!

                   

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, January 5, 2015 4:12 PM

Okay, quick question on RLM colors and what is considered "best."  I know there is no perfect solution for this question, and I realize everyone has their favorites.  I was just checking because I've seen RLM colors from MM, Vallejo, Humbrol and AK Interactive.  I'm trying to decide which way to go.  Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, January 5, 2015 4:18 PM

I always go with MM myself.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, January 5, 2015 4:25 PM

I use MM Axcrul RLM shades BUUUUT -- they are different from their enamels. the enamels I feel were very accurate but the Acryls leave something to be desired on a number of occasions. I have taken to mixing RLM 74, 75, 78 and 79 from Tamiya acrylics, and others as need be (MM Acryls are hard to get in Australia). 74 and 75 are notably wrong in the MM range.

M/TB379

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, January 5, 2015 4:30 PM

Thanks Steve and TB379!!  I've been leaning towards the MM line, since they are probably a little easier to get locally.

Steve, do you get yours from an online source or do you pick them up locally?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, January 5, 2015 4:38 PM

jelliott

I was getting them online, however Hobby Town has really stocked up, or did before Christmas, and they are just 5 mi from me, so I've been going there lately. Sometimes Hobby Lobby. They really surprise me withe their selection.

If online I go with eBay. There's a store called altarail that seems to have the MM RLM colors I need. Not bad shipping price or speed either.

Steve

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by TicTac on Monday, January 5, 2015 5:55 PM

Hey all! Sign me up with a Hasegawa 1/48 Bf 109 E-4 I'll be dressing up in a Walter Oesau BoB flavor. This will be (hopefully) my first completed airplane and my second completed model ever. Can't wait to get started.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, January 5, 2015 6:01 PM

modelcrazy

Those look real tom, did you put a 109 seat into a miniaturization beam?

No. Just my trusty optivisor, but I wonder if Micromark sells something like that? Hmmm, I sure could have used it!
Thanks for the compliments guys.

-Tom

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, January 5, 2015 7:30 PM

Jelliott... My 2 cents... Model Master Acrylics first BUUUUT... Just cant beat Tamiya paints , the problem with them is you either have to "Blend" your own or use the close match. Altarail as was mentioned has a lot of cool stuff and another good source is Hobbylinc.com. Fair prices and fast shipping. I'm lucky to have a Hobby Town near with a Hobby Lobby right across the street from them.

Luck...

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, January 5, 2015 7:59 PM

Rigidrider

Jelliott... My 2 cents... Model Master Acrylics first BUUUUT... Just cant beat Tamiya paints , the problem with them is you either have to "Blend" your own or use the close match. Altarail as was mentioned has a lot of cool stuff and another good source is Hobbylinc.com. Fair prices and fast shipping. I'm lucky to have a Hobby Town near with a Hobby Lobby right across the street from them.

Luck...

Doug

Doug, thanks!  I actually just got off of the Hobbylinc website.  That is one of the main areas I buy my stuff online.  They are currently running special on the MM paints and you can pick them up for about $2.79 for 1/2 oz.  I am pretty sure that is what I am going to do, seems to be the best price I've found so far.  I may also check the local Hobby Lobby's and see what they have.

Jeremy

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Posted by IamRaider on Monday, January 5, 2015 8:47 PM

Jelliot

Scalehobbyist has 1/2 oz. MM on sale for $2.59.

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Posted by flyerduke on Monday, January 5, 2015 11:46 PM

I decided to work on the engine while I wait for the PE interior set to arrive.  I completed assembly of the engine which went together nicely.  Just a bit of filler here and there.  I've looked at a bunch of photos online and can't seem to find any of the bottom of the engine.  I decided to shoot the exhaust manifold a dark rust color.  I added a few drops of MM gun metal to some MM rust.  I'm not sure what it's supposed to be, but I figured what the hell.  If someone knows the true color, please let me know.

I will probably shoot the engine RLM 66.  A dark wash should darken it up.  If that don't work, I'll lightly hit it with flat black.  We'll see.  I'll post pics once I get going on it.

Craig

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:53 AM

jelliott523
 I may also check the local Hobby Lobby's and see what they have.

Careful with that one Jeremy! At 3.99 a bottle that gets expensive quick. I use alot of MM acryl stuff myself and so far I don't have many complaints until I start getting into the RLM 82/83 colors.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:04 AM

Dang Craig! My Buffies Best 109G-10 CD used to work real well in this computer and I had a TON of Daimler Benz pictures of the bottom of the engine. Doug is the first person I can think of right off hand that would have pics as well as Tucohoward (Jay).

                   

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:30 AM

flyerduke

I decided to work on the engine while I wait for the PE interior set to arrive.  I completed assembly of the engine which went together nicely.  Just a bit of filler here and there.  I've looked at a bunch of photos online and can't seem to find any of the bottom of the engine.  I decided to shoot the exhaust manifold a dark rust color.  I added a few drops of MM gun metal to some MM rust.  I'm not sure what it's supposed to be, but I figured what the hell.  If someone knows the true color, please let me know.

I will probably shoot the engine RLM 66.  A dark wash should darken it up.  If that don't work, I'll lightly hit it with flat black.  We'll see.  I'll post pics once I get going on it.

Craig

Hey Craig, that engine's a beauty. The block itself should be a semi-gloss black. The part you just painted is piping for the coolant system. Not sure what color they normally are. I don't have any pics of the engine bottoms either. I'll look to make sure and post them here if I do. 

 

 

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Posted by flyerduke on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:39 AM

Thanks Nathan.  And thanks for correcting my part nomenclature.  Sure would like to find a photo of it.

Craig

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