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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:54 AM

Eagle90: I've never seen an Otaki kit before! Looking forward to see how this one turns out.

Jay: That MDC interior has lots of detail for sure!!! Question: How do you go back and forth between automotive and aviation builds? That would be enough to drive me crazy! lol

Joe: You sell yourself short there friend. Your work here is nothing short of amazing. Keep the pics coming!! You'll do fine on the paintwork man.

Mike: As far as filling an AB paint cup from a paint jar....I have a video series on building a 1/32 Hasegawa G-6 from washing the sprues to final touches and the host covers this. He takes a toothpick and holds it up against the edge of the paint jar at about the halfway point on the toothpick and tips the jar with the pointed end of the toothpick down in the cup. The paint will trickle out of the jar along the toothpick with a good amount of control. I'll see if I can find a pic to supplement this with.

adj: They've got it right about the windows. They are primarily found on only the early models.

                   

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:19 AM

mustang1989
Jay: That MDC interior has lots of detail for sure!!! Question: How do you go back and forth between automotive and aviation builds? That would be enough to drive me crazy! lol

Joe, the 109s are kind of on auto pilot for me so I really just have to concentrate on the Dart. Not bored with 109s though, just familiar. Still can't seem to get enough of them.

Jay

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:27 AM

I know the feeling. This build in here will make three for me. The only other model I ever built more than one of was the Fw190 (an A-8/R2 and a D-9) and I'm strongly considering another pair in the future.

                   

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:28 PM

Some aircraft just seem to pull you in to keep building more.

I just won an eBay auction for 3 Hasegawa 48th kits. Hurricane F4U and P-47. The seller had another 3 ok I just missed on.  In it was a p-47 F4U and a 109G-5 that he said was hasegawa. We'll after racking my brain for missing out I find out the 109 is actually a Fujimi kit.

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:47 PM

mustang1989

Eagle90: I've never seen an Otaki kit before! Looking forward to see how this one turns out.

Jay: That MDC interior has lots of detail for sure!!! Question: How do you go back and forth between automotive and aviation builds? That would be enough to drive me crazy! lol

Joe: You sell yourself short there friend. Your work here is nothing short of amazing. Keep the pics coming!! You'll do fine on the paintwork man.

Mike: As far as filling an AB paint cup from a paint jar....I have a video series on building a 1/32 Hasegawa G-6 from washing the sprues to final touches and the host covers this. He takes a toothpick and holds it up against the edge of the paint jar at about the halfway point on the toothpick and tips the jar with the pointed end of the toothpick down in the cup. The paint will trickle out of the jar along the toothpick with a good amount of control. I'll see if I can find a pic to supplement this with.

adj: They've got it right about the windows. They are primarily found on only the early models.

Hey Mustang,

She is a pretty nice kit.  Has its flaws, but over all a good little kit.  I had never heard of Otaki either until I bought all those kits from the estate sale.  Got this one and these from Otaki:

They look as good as the 109!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:01 PM

A duel purpose update. 

Trying out a bigger home made photo booth and paint is on.

Three hours worth of paint work is now accomplished.  I tried the same thing that I had been working on the last few projects.  I would appreciate the feedback on this.  

Sorry for the blurry picture of the wing.  I was trying for a closeup and the camera would not cooperate.

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Happy with the way the paint looks but unhappy that my white backdrop looks gray.  Going to have to work on that again.  Maybe add more light.  

Comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 12:23 AM

Great work on the paint there Joe.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:17 AM

On mixing paint/transferring it from bottle to paint cup, I use disposable plastic eyedroppers I got from TCP Global. I think it was $15 for 100 of them, and when I paint with acrylics, I wash them with water. Otherwise I just toss them because they're worth less than the amount of thinner it would take to clean them.

I can get really good paint measurement by counting drops from them, and it's pretty quick.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:25 AM

I got the decals on with only a few slip-ups. I found the Techmod sheet to be a bit finicky, and I tore the first cross I put on, but fortunately had a spare that matched (from another Techmod sheet).

Here it is with a little while left to go yet:

I need to touch up around the canopy (photo directly above) and then paint the canopy rails themselves with the dark green, then do the undercarriage and wheels. Machine guns are on, and the wing ones still need a drybrushing, but it's coming together.

I tried to work a bit with the Flory wash, but it didn't come off the flat clear coat as much as I wanted, and so after doing the underside and nose, I just flowed it directly into the panel lines up top to keep the effect muted. Next time I'll gloss it first, then use the wash, then flat coat it. I put some exhaust staining on with pastel powder and Tamiya weathering... whatever you call the stuff that looks like makeup.

So far I'm liking the way this is going, and I imagine I'll finish it in the next week or so.

Were the wheel bays and inside of the gear doors RLM 02, or RLM 65, in general? I'm guessing they're 02, but I'll be happy to hear if they're 65 since that's the color they currently are :)

-BD-

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 7:48 AM

Joe: That build is gonna be beautiful! I just love these opened up builds of yours man. Your paint looks great so far.

Brandon: First off, this work you are doing is top notch! All washes are applied over gloss coats. Don't worry I've done it too! lol . Lastly all wheel wells were 02 right up until around and after the G-6's and then after the 1944 time period somewhere it was  a random usage of either 02 or 65 and on the K-4's bare metal. On yours its 02 for sure. I could be off on the year but I do know there was a change in colors towards the end of the war.

                   

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Posted by Tucohoward on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:57 AM

Very nice work Brandon. I always paint the wheel bays last. Just tape over the whole bay and then trim the tape along the edge of the bay with sharp blade. I do all my washes on a flat coat although I use oil washes. I like doing it on a flat coat because some of it stains the paint a little. On a gloss coat everything just wipes off. I use the old Francois Verlinden method.

Jay

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:05 PM

I do recall Eduards instructions for the E-3 calling for aluminium wells with the sides being painted tyre black.  Thought that it was a bit odd, but went with it just to add some more color to the build.  Will see if I took a picture of it on my kit.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by 70gtvert on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:21 PM

I replicated the wheel well liner by finding a good color picture of one on the restored 109's pictures you find online and used photoshop to make it fit in the wheelwells of whatever scale I was using. The liners  on the E series are different from the F series so you need to look at the different versions and see what you need. Once done i used my printer to make decals that I then put in the wheelwells.

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:22 PM

70gtvert

I replicated the wheel well liner by finding a good color picture of one on the restored 109's pictures you find online and used photoshop to make it fit in the wheelwells of whatever scale I was using. The liners  on the E series are different from the F series so you need to look at the different versions and see what you need. Once done i used my printer to make decals that I then put in the wheelwells.

Very true, and then they changed again with the G and K.  And then there were variations by airframe, depending on the time, location and individual unit practices.  I do have the PE set for my G-14 that has the laced sidewalls and the correct depiction of the strut area (with the lightening holes in the metal) so once I get to that one, I will be adding all that detail.

I really enjoy being a part of a lively and fun group build like this one and the Fw-190 build was. 

 

Thanks for all the great information and the amaxing builds!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:25 PM
OK folks, here are some pictures that show the progress of the F-4 that I am building. This is the trumpeter kit in 1/32 scale and really went together fairly easy. Really the only area of concern is the engine panels, just like on most every other 109 kit out there. A bit of Tamiya extra thin glue, pressure and time got them to where I though they were acceptable. Here is a few pics of the bird all closed up.   You will notice the small surgery on vents in these pics. The 109 F did not have them, but the G did. I cut them off carefully, saving one, then filled with putty and Mr. Surfacer 1000 and sanded smooth.  The one that was saved was added just aft of the opening for the crank start shaft on the right side. Not exactly the correct shape, but much better than nothing.   After priming with Mr. Surfacer 500 and a bit of sanding, and seeing Lawdog's sweet painted markings, I felt bold enough to attempt the markings on this bird. Here is what I finished up with.     Think next time it will be late war markings as they are less intricate. Masked markings and pre-shading done:  Bottom with first coat of RLM 76 applied:  The scheme that I am going for on this one. Bird was stationed in Katwijk, Nederlands in Sept of 41. Story goes that it was painted with either field mixed RLM colors or, more likely, captured paints, but they were unsure.   Base color applied, a mix of a few RLM colors to get close to the pics, with RLM 76 for the light lines. Went through a ton of tip dry and frustration, but in the end it isn't too bad, small mistakes here and there, but I will fix them.    Have more pictures, just need to upload them to the bucket. Thanks for looking.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:39 PM

Blkhwkmatt -- FANTASTIC, that's all I can say! brilliant building, prep and painting, and I LOVE the sprayed markings! Did you use Montex masks???

Woohoo!!!

M/TB379

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:48 PM
TB379 - Wish that I had the Montex (or any other masks really), but no this was done the hard way. I traced the outlines of the markings onto tracing paper, using the decals as a template, then traced them onto Tamiya 10mm tape and cut carefully. I painted the white first, masked the appropriate areas then painted the black. All told I think that it took the better part of 4 hours or so. Next time I will buy the masks to make things easier.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:55 PM
Here it sits with the camo completed, ready for a gloss coat and some decals. I used Tamiya brown paint with Tamiya lacquer thinner (first time trying that, stopped some of the tip dry, but not all). I will be adding the Aries resin wheels to this as well. I also noticed that the canopy is molded incorrect, in that it looks more like the G canopy with the middle bar being molded thick, am currently trying to find a replacement (just for the middle part).

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:59 PM

Seriously stunning! And to mask the crosses from scratch is even more impressive! Double thumbs up!

M/TB379

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:42 PM

Wow, Blkhwkmatt - that looks great! Those painted markings sound frustrating, but the payoff is totally worth it when you look at it. Really, really nice job!

-BD-

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:04 AM

BD, really nice work there, you have done a lovely job on the scheme.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:05 AM

WOW matt, that's seriously nice work. Not seen that scheme before, very different. I like it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:47 AM

...aaaaand Galland's Bf-109 is complete!

The kit is the 1:48 Tamiya, and I used Techmod decals for the markings. Bf-109 nuts will notice three inaccuracies that I'm aware of, but I really enjoyed this kit, and it's the first camouflage scheme I've airbrushed. Can't wait to do more!

This is a JG-26 aircraft, and I wanted to build it after reading the book :JG26: Top Guns of the Luftwaffe," which was very well-researched, and Galland wrote the intro. Hence his plane.

I'd probably like to use the second photo in the gallery - thanks!

-BD-

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:57 AM

Marvellous! Really good! :-) You can be proud of that one!!!

M/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, March 5, 2015 5:20 AM

Matt: That paint job looks so wicked I can't even think of a word to describe it!! You and ol' Doug have that type of camo down to an art it seems! Way ta go!!!

Brandon: I really like how this one turned out!!! The paint work and weathering are spot on man! I'm gonna have a high bar to reach when I start building in here (which should be fairly soon folks). Let me know which picture you would like to see in the intro and I'll get it there. Do you....possibly have another build in the works????

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:41 AM

Great work, Brandon and Matt! Both are wonderful representatives of the vaunted 109!

Joe... "Ol Doug" ( I like that, lolol) will be starting his second soon... must build 109s...quickly!!!

Doug

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Make Lemonade!

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:14 AM

Matt and Brandon. I'm speechless. And that doesn't happen often.  Stunning work.

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:14 PM

BD-

That is a great, clean solid build.  Thanks for sharing! Love those Tamiya 1/48 scale birds!!

<Matt

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:51 PM

Jay: Looking good! I really like the look of that MDC cockpit. Some very nice work on all those rivets too!

Joe: She keeps looking better each update! I love the amount of details you packed in there! Also, mind telling me how you painted the exterior? That's a lovely effect you achieved there.

Matt: Your F-4 is coming along nicely too! That camo pattern sure is something else and you absolutely nailed it!

Brandon: Wait, what? That's your first airbrushed camo attempt? Never would've guessed. She looks fantastic!

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Thursday, March 5, 2015 6:03 PM

BrandonD

Wow, Blkhwkmatt - that looks great! Those painted markings sound frustrating, but the payoff is totally worth it when you look at it. Really, really nice job!

-BD-

BD,

They are more time consuming than anything.  You really need a good cutting surface (I used a mirror) and a sharp blade, and a good straight edge.  Once you have a good template it goes a bit faster.

 

<Matt

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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