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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, March 5, 2015 7:51 PM

Clemens:  Cool pics of Barkhorn's 109.  Cool scheme too.  I just have very little interest in the Eastern front.  I'm not sure why.  

Howard:  Looking great man.  Incredible detail in that cockpit.  I never thought of your gear bay painting trick.  I'm going to try it...

Fightnjoe:  I'm getting redundant.  Your work is very humbling.    

Brandon:  Beautiful Emil my friend.  Yeah, that Flory can be troublesome on flat surfaces.  The clay gets stuck in the rough surface.  I sometimes have issues with it at my wing roots and such because my gloss sometimes pebbles there.  You may be the first person I've ever seen use Techmod successfully.  Those are generally garbage (in my experience)........again, nice tribute to Galland....

Matt:  Beauty work on a challenging scheme.  Your airbrush control is most impressive...

Meanwhile, I've been plugging away on the F-2, I'll post the WIP shortly...

Joe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:00 PM

Let me say a humble thank you to all for the kind words.  Coming from the talented individuals here it means alot.

Brandon most impressive work.  

Matt I cannot put into words how impressed I am with that paintwork.  

SS if you mean me it was simply drawing on the main cammo lines with a pencil and then the main colors trying to keep out of the panel lines, a lighter shade of the colors to get some highlights, and a highly thinned mist to try to blend it.  I still need to blend it a bit more in spots.

Joe

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:38 PM

I'm finally in this bad boy!   I admit, as a 1/48 Hasegawa 109 series fan, I was (and perhaps still am) skeptical that the Zveda 109 kit is really "better".  After reading the reviews and seeing Wingnut's F-4, curiousity got the best of me so I decided to give it a whirl (kicking and screaming of course).  This WIP will be objective and I intend to compare the two when appropriate.  As a disclaimer, here's week worth of work so don't think I'm really this fast.  So grab a sandwich you may be here awhile....

Following the lead of others who have built this turkey,  I decided to get the Quickboost exhausts and I grabbed the Eduard PE set for cockpit as well.  I decided to pass on the Vector set because it just didn't seem worth it to me.  Besides, I think the spinner is nice and should hold a wash, perhaps even better than Hasegawa's example.  

I started with the engine and assembled it per the instructions for the "In-flight" version since my example will be closed up.  Perhaps it was me, but I found them extremely confusing.  I only added what was necessary then added the QB exhaust stubs.  I had no issues.  (My joy would be short lived...)

I set this aside then turned to the cockpit.  I thought the detail here was better than Hasegawa's example.  I painted it XF-63 German Grey cut with XF-19 Light Grey to represent RLM 66.  I added some of the PE, primarily the seat belts, pedals and the IP to spruce it up a bit.  The separate fuel line Zveda provided had me scratching my head, as I broke mine trying to remove it from the sprue.  Why not mold it to the starboard sidewall?  Oh well, it looked good once fixed, painted and installed.  I would have to attach the shoulder seat belts after the fuselage was assembled as the piece these attach to gets added after its closed up.  No biggie just different. 

I had a heck of a time getting the nose to close up.  My Eduard Fw 190 Dora flashbacks started coming on quick like an old fashioned newsreel.  I kept removing things from the top of the engine until I was able to close everything up.  I still don't like the way it looks.  It was at this point I started checking E-bay for a cheap Hasegawa F-2. I'm sorry, these types of kits just don't interest me.......I like things closed up to preserve the classic lines.  I then began to notice that the panel lines were petite...perhaps too petite.  I am concerned they won't hold a wash.  I guess we'll see.  There are no panel lines on the upper wings?.....strange   I then read that some Fs didn't have them, so I didn't scribe them in.  I do however like how all the control surfaces are posable, so I was a bit creative.  I must say I like the tail planes deflected down.  I may start cutting and poing all of them out from now on...

I also added the seamline on the intake with styrene rod.  I've read the intake is inaccurate but I don't really care.  It looks close enough to me.

The JG 26 kite I was building had a yellow nose.  After a preshade of the panels, I painted that.  I added a touch of XF-7 Flat Red to the XF-3 Flat Yellow...

Next I taped off the yellow and sprayed the wheel bays Gunze RLM 02.  These are nicely detailed and way better than Hasegawa's version.  The canvas covers are even present.  I then started on the RLM 76.  I used what I had left over from Hackl's G-6.  After a light postshade, here we are. 

Next I added the RLM 74 and 75 with Gunze Aqueous.  I used a typical upper wing camo pattern which may or may not be correct.  The condensation streaks were added for some subtle weathering.

   

Ok, I need some opinions here............does this dihedral look correct?  To my eye, compared to Hasegawa kits, the angle is too much of a "V".  Also, on my example, the wing tips seem to curl up slightly which I know is wrong.  Perhaps my eyes are playing tricks on me...       

Thats where I left off....

Joe 

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Posted by BrandonD on Friday, March 6, 2015 12:07 AM

Joe - Great start on that. I almost bought that kit, but figured I'd wait to see what the other ones in this build come out like. I'll be interested to know about the panel lines holding a wash. Wish I could have an opinion on the dihedral, though I don't see where the wing tips curl up. Then again, I've been up way too long today.

Thank you everyone for the nice words on my Emil. It is easily the best job I've done, and yes, Mustang, I have an Eduard E-7 Tropical I started last night Whistling. Might have to build it to show off the engine.

As for the photo, how about the second one?

Thanks again, all.

-BD-

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, March 6, 2015 12:56 AM

Joe -- marvellous work, if that kit is a turkey it sure doesn't show the way you've handled it. The dihedral looks pretty close to right to me, the 109 had a lot, and the wingtip effect you mention I think is an optical illusion. It's coming along great!

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, March 6, 2015 7:38 AM

Looks good Lawdog. If you're worried about the soft panel lines, why not take a scriber and just deepen them a bit? I find I have to do that with older Hasegawa kits from time to time.

 

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Friday, March 6, 2015 2:27 PM

Joe,

your build is looking good to me.  Think that the wings look about right, but I havent compaired your picture to the line drawings that I have, but at first glance it looks about right.  Like the way that you were able to preshade the yellow nose, I have not been able to get that down yet.  I end up graduating the tone through multiple applications of the yellow on each panel and then get the depth through washes, etc. at the end.

Keep up the work and thanks for sharing!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, March 6, 2015 8:07 PM

Still working on the phototaking but decals are now on.  

Beware, these decals were very difficult to work with.  They did not want to come off the backing and tore and shattered at times.  Kind of surprised that I did not destroy any of them.   They did not settle down until after many applications of Micro Sol.  

Next up will be another coat of future and then some weathering.

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All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, March 6, 2015 8:18 PM

Guys... I am in a state of serious awe! There is talent in the extreme being exhibited here! Where does one start? There is not a build here that doesn't deserve a write up in the mag... Please FSM... Take note!. Bravo, one and all!!!

Doug

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, March 6, 2015 11:03 PM

Fightnjoe,

Exquisite and crushingly nice work. I am in awe. WOW !!!

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A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, March 7, 2015 12:04 AM

Brandon -  Galland's mount, very smart looking finish! Yes

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Fightnjoe - really great technical work of art there!

Joe - the F-2 looks fine from here.  The  dihedral should be the same as the Emil, though the wing was completely redesigned.  Not much in the way of panel lines as there were no guns mounted in the wings.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:20 AM

BrandonD: We'll get that E-7 added to the roster and it's great to have you back in here bud! I'll get that second picture posted up in the Completed Builds section as well. As far as showing off the engine.............bring it!Big Smile     Update for you--That awesome pic is now posted and your new entry is in que for being posted on the roster!

Joe (lawdog): A weeks worth of work? That's about two months worth of work for me!!! Jeeez!! The pit looks great (I know you have a strategy base to work off of with pits so it's no wonder you're quick with those) and I don't see a problem with the dihedral at all. Paint and weathering are masterfully done!

Joe(FJ): The level of creativity to pull off what you do is nothing short of show-stopping! Everything from detail to the cals man..........museum quality!! Good Lord where do you guys come from? Great stuff!

                   

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, March 7, 2015 5:05 AM

Unbelievable work here.  I could only dream of

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, March 7, 2015 10:21 AM

I am humbled by the very very kind words.  Thank you.  

Joe

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, March 7, 2015 3:07 PM

Joe (lawdog): She's looking fantastic! I really love your paintjobs, especially the condensation streaks and cockpit painting!

Joe (fightnjoe): I really like the camo scheme you picked for this one. It looks interesting, but at the same time it's not too distracting, so all the amazing interior details still stand out. Some perfect execution on that paintjob and decals on your part as well!

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 7, 2015 3:49 PM

That's another great build Brandon. two builds to be really proud of.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 7, 2015 3:57 PM

lawdog, that's another great looking build. Nice work on the engine and pit. The wings don't look off to me and I can't see the issue with the tips you mention.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 7, 2015 3:59 PM

Joe, really looking forward to seeing that finished. Really impressed with that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:31 PM

Brandon, I suppose that Eduard E-7 is in 1/48 as well?

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 7, 2015 6:24 PM

And the hits just keep on rollin'

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Posted by BrandonD on Sunday, March 8, 2015 12:37 AM

SchattenSpartan

Brandon, I suppose that Eduard E-7 is in 1/48 as well?

Yep, also 1:48. It's the Weekend Edition, but I just ordered the PE set for it because the air filter lacks the mesh screens without it, and it just looks like a plastic block, which I didn't want.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:04 AM

Its been a while since my last update. But as planned I have been working on the engine here and there, and now ready to post some pics.

So, after 2 coats of primer, the engine got 3 coats of Humbrol gloss black enamel.

I then started on the bare metal parts and added the decals. I also added the tops of the spark plugs using a small piece of brass rod. Even in this scale the detail is very small, I was going to try and add the hexagonal top to the plugs, but it just wasn't worth it.

 

The engine mount has also been painted, RLM 02, and the strap on the box covering the rear of the engine mounted cannon painted khaki.

 

So the next job will be to wire the spark plugs and then I will fit the engine into the mount before the rest of the wiring is started. 

 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, March 8, 2015 7:47 PM

That is going to be a cool looking build when complete Bish. I'm liking it!

Well After speaking with Joe, I'm going to start my second Bf109. It will be a cross over build, and will represent 1 of the 5 109 E7s sent to Japan for testing in 1942. Quite a feat being they were broken down , loaded into U-Boats, then reassy after arrival, in Japan. The kit is a Hasagawa 1/48 scale Bf109 E4/7 and theres not a lot too it by the looks. It will mainly be OOB.

This is the kit I'll be using

Pretty basic lay out of pit parts...

As I said, pretty basic, Just added some airscale decals to the IP.

And lastly installed in the fuselage with the wing parts laid out to clean and assy. More later!

Take care all...

Doug 

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Posted by Mij on Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:57 PM

Some really impressive builds have been completed in this GB. Just keeping up with the posts is a part time job.

It's been couple of months since my last post. Work, family, and taxes got in the way but finally got started on my build. Just a reminder this is a 1:48 Hasegawa E-4 in Galland's markings. It's been in the stash for over 23 years so hopefully the decals will still work. 

Planning to do this OOB with a little bit scratched details to add some improvements.

Rudder pedals had a circular mold rise that I didn't care for and are missing the holes in the pedals.

After scraping off the mold rise I got out the pin vise to add holes to the pedals.

Right side of the cockpit before fresh off the sprue.

Drilled holes in the sheet metal exterior around the oxygen regulator. Also rolled the pounce wheel to add some detail to the blank circuit breaker panel.

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1:48 Testors SPAD XIII

1:48 Revell P-47D Razorback

1:48 Hasegawa Bf 109E Galland

Mij
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Posted by Mij on Sunday, March 8, 2015 11:09 PM

One photo I forgot to add to the previous post.

Added a piece of guitar string to oxygen regulator to make a hose loop.

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1:48 Testors SPAD XIII

1:48 Revell P-47D Razorback

1:48 Hasegawa Bf 109E Galland

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, March 9, 2015 4:07 AM

Bish : It looks like you are continuing on fashionably great! The level of detail is friggin' awesome here. What are your references BTW?

Doug: Man I cannot hold my horses here! I'll be on the edge of my seat while watchin' you build that birdie!

Mij:I hear ya on life getting in the way man! I like the scratchwork that you're pulling off here. Guitar string .....YES! I did that on my Fw190 D-9 for the tailwheel retracting spring!

                   

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Posted by Bish on Monday, March 9, 2015 12:43 PM

Joe, thanks. Mainly some photo's I found using google search and a few in the Squadron walk around. I have found a few things the kit has missed, so am doing a bt of scratchbuilding as well. I do have some pics for you if you want them, not sure if you saw my last PM.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, March 9, 2015 10:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words and input about the wing dihedral.  Maybe the Hasegawa kit's is flat, which had me questioning it....no worries.  I just got it decaled and should be finishing up soon.  

Bish:  That mill is looking sharp.  Love the stenciling..

Fightnjoe:  Still speechless right here.......absolutely amazing..

Doug:  The predecessor to the K-61....very cool subject.  Your off to a good start.  Agreed, our U-boats dropped the ball on that one for the Tony was a great plane....

Miij:  Nice start.  You don't see many Hasegawa Emils so I'm looking forward to see how yours turns out.  Guitar string eeh?   I usually wrap fine wire around a needle for that effect, but guitar string eliminates that step.... great idea....

Joe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, March 9, 2015 10:40 PM

Such talented people, so very kind.  Thank you.

i look forward to seeing the progress in this thread as there is so much to look at and so many fantastic works.  

As for me...

Tidying up the little things.

The Prop is ready.


The landing gear are ready.

The wheels are ready.

Just a few more things to go.


Do not mind the pictures. This time I think I know what happened.


All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.

Joe

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Posted by 70gtvert on Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:14 PM

Waiting for some parts for my Hobby Boss 1/48 262 I'm building, at a stand still till they get here soooo, I've just started a quicky build of the old Revel G10. Very basic, low parts count kit that I will be building OOB except for using scrap materials (wire and pulled spru and tape for seatbelts). Started the cockpit and will post pics soon. Oh, yeah, I'm changing it from a G10 to a K4 by filling in a few panel lines and scribing a few other in different places to match the K4.Have some nice K4 decals left over from my Fujimi K4 build so I thought I would use them, thus the minor work to convert it over.

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