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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:32 AM
Well done, Bish! Very classy!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:48 AM

Bish, you may not think it's one of your best, but I am duly impressed! I like that little bird farm. Nice work on that and thanks for the memories. I really enjoyed seeing that one being built.

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Saturday, June 25, 2016 4:32 PM
Bish, she's a beaut and it's nice to see carriers of other nations and how they differ from ours.

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 On the bench: So many hanger queens.

 

 

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Posted by surfsup on Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:23 AM

Bish you have done a beautiful job on the Old Vic.....Cheers mark

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Posted by scottrc on Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:18 AM

Nice job BIsh,

Checkmate, you starting on your Yorktown is hopfully motivating me to start on the Enterprise.  

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:59 PM

Thanks guys, you are far to kind.

And thanks Mark for hosting this, makes a nice change for a GB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:03 PM

scottrc:  I hope you do get started on Enterprise!  It'll be fun to see your progress.

Here's as the basic hull painted up.  I'm planning on putting some Dauntlesses on the hanger deck.

Installed a couple of parts on the foredeck.

Parts for the afterdeck.

And installed.

The Dauntlesses getting their paint.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:10 PM

Some nice work there check. Is it my eyes, or do those aircrfat have panel lines.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, June 26, 2016 4:57 PM
Thanks, Bish. Yeah, they do have little panel lines. Your eyes are fine.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, June 27, 2016 8:47 AM

checkmateking02
Thanks, Bish. Yeah, they do have little panel lines. Your eyes are fine.
 

What, no pre-shading the panel lines?Big SmileGeeked

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 27, 2016 3:57 PM

scottrc
 
checkmateking02
Thanks, Bish. Yeah, they do have little panel lines. Your eyes are fine.
 

 

 

What, no pre-shading the panel lines?Big SmileGeeked

 

 

Well, they do look like raised panel lines. So surely a bit of scribing will be needed first, don't you think.

Just a thought Whistling

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, June 27, 2016 7:50 PM

Nah, I just use a pin wash!  Balloons

From Enterprise CV-6 I built a while ago.

I wouldn't want to make things too complicated.  

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:58 AM

checkmateking02

...Here's as the basic hull painted up.  I'm planning on putting some Dauntlesses on the hanger deck.

Nice progress on your Yorktown!  You're building the Tamiya kit, correct?  Do you, or does anyone else happen to know, if Tamiya re-tooled the kit since it was originally issued, back in the day?  I have a couple of them in my stash, for eventual building, but this looks better than I remember the sprues looking.

A PS-I know, the same kit was boxed as Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet (albeit Hornet included a sprue of B-25s for the Doolittle Raiders).

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:51 PM

Baron:  Yes, it's the Tamiya kit.  I have all three Yorktown class, and they are identical to each other, with the exception of some different sprues/parts to distinguish between them.  Mainly these seem to be in the types of catwalks around the flight deck.

I didn't have them "back in the day," when they were first released in the '70's, so I don't know if they updated anything at all.  I haven't researched Hornet yet (except to find that the flight deck is not correctly shaped), but I can say that Enterprise's parts (catwalks, some gun tubs, etc.) are not accurate to any specific fit, and not very close to the Midway era at all.

Yorktown is also inaccurate for some of the weapons placements.  Tamiya gave her too many 20mm positions (where she didn't have any) and no .50 caliber positions at all--when she apparently went to Midway with some 24.

Enterprise and Yorktown also had gun tubs for .50's off each side of the forward flight deck, and Tamiya did not include these.

There also seems to be no difference in any of the kits' island structures, although each ship in the class was somewhat different.

I had to kit-bash a Hornet and an Enterprise, according to Gordon Bjorklund's research on the warship forum, in order to get a reasonable Midway-era Enterprise.

I remember when Yorktown was released a couple of years ago, there was disappointment among ship builders that Tamiya had not re-tooled anything.

Even the aircraft provided were pretty primitive, so I've been using Trumpeter's versions. Trumpeter's are clear-molded.

Still, the ships look pretty sharp when finished.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:33 AM

checkmateking02

Baron:  Yes, it's the Tamiya kit.  I have all three Yorktown class, and they are identical to each other, with the exception of some different sprues/parts to distinguish between them.  Mainly these seem to be in the types of catwalks around the flight deck.

I didn't have them "back in the day," when they were first released in the '70's, so I don't know if they updated anything at all.  I haven't researched Hornet yet (except to find that the flight deck is not correctly shaped), but I can say that Enterprise's parts (catwalks, some gun tubs, etc.) are not accurate to any specific fit, and not very close to the Midway era at all.

Yorktown is also inaccurate for some of the weapons placements.  Tamiya gave her too many 20mm positions (where she didn't have any) and no .50 caliber positions at all--when she apparently went to Midway with some 24.

Enterprise and Yorktown also had gun tubs for .50's off each side of the forward flight deck, and Tamiya did not include these.

There also seems to be no difference in any of the kits' island structures, although each ship in the class was somewhat different.

I had to kit-bash a Hornet and an Enterprise, according to Gordon Bjorklund's research on the warship forum, in order to get a reasonable Midway-era Enterprise.

I remember when Yorktown was released a couple of years ago, there was disappointment among ship builders that Tamiya had not re-tooled anything.

Even the aircraft provided were pretty primitive, so I've been using Trumpeter's versions. Trumpeter's are clear-molded.

Still, the ships look pretty sharp when finished.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought, then, the kit hasn't changed.  I've got some old boxings.  I'm taking notes on your build! Big Smile

Yeah, for the Hornet, I think the shape of the island forward needs to be changed, too, doesn't it.  I think I recall at least one thread here in FSM that discusses correcting the details on the kit.

I have a stash of Trumpeter aircraft, too.  I think that was the single greatest improvement made in ship models, between the time I left the hobby in 1982 and my return in 1999.  Now the kit aircraft go in the hangar, where it doesn't matter that they're solid, and Trumpeter aircraft go on the deck.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:46 PM

That's a good idea, Baron--putting the kit aircraft into the hanger deck!  I've always replaced everything with Trumpeter, but since you can't see into the hanger deck very well, it wouldn't matter much.

Great idea!  Thanks for the information!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, July 1, 2016 9:03 PM

Underside of flight deck, forward.

Underside of flight deck, aft.

Catwalks aft.

Catwalks forward.

I removed the extraneous 20mm gun tubs.  Chopped them with sprue cutters, then filed and sanded smooth.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by scottrc on Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:36 AM

I couldn't stand it any longer, and although I am knee deep in another build, I am starting my Enterprise today.  Laid out the colors, planes from Trumpeter, Starfighter decals, and PE from Tom's. 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:50 PM

This is good to see, scottrc!  

One issue I've run into is the fit of the forward 5" gun tubs.  I glued them in, then found when test fitting the flight deck, that something put pressure on them (the tubs), and lifted them up at the front end--which made a wide gap.  

I disassembled everything, and filed and sanded where I thought there might be an obstruction.  Nothing seemed to work, so finally I sanded the back part of the catwalks, indicated in the photo below.  I thought maybe they fit too snugly, and were forcing the hull sides together, thereby forcing the gun tubs out of position.

The red lines show the area I sanded down--along the whole length of the backside, but the photo was taken before I did it.  I ended up sanding very close to the locating holes, pins and those two grooves.

When I test-fitted the flight deck, it seemed to help, but I don't know if it completely cured the issue.

Maybe you won't encounter the same problem.  It would be good if you don't--but just some information, in case you do. 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by raider-hall on Sunday, July 3, 2016 12:18 PM
Nicely done sir!
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Posted by raider-hall on Sunday, July 3, 2016 12:20 PM

Wasp is a pain in the butt. Lots of reshaping gallery guns and bulkheads. Post some photos tonight.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, July 3, 2016 2:02 PM
Thanks, raider. I have Wasp in 1/700 from Aoshima. I hope it's not as much trouble as you're having.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by allan on Monday, July 4, 2016 3:36 AM

Bish, you pulled it off! Really nice to see a ship coming off your bench.  

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Posted by surfsup on Monday, July 4, 2016 9:47 PM

checkmateking02

scottrc:  I hope you do get started on Enterprise!  It'll be fun to see your progress.

Here's as the basic hull painted up.  I'm planning on putting some Dauntlesses on the hanger deck.

Installed a couple of parts on the foredeck.

Parts for the afterdeck.

And installed.

The Dauntlesses getting their paint.

 

That is some work you are doing with this one.....Cheers mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Monday, July 4, 2016 9:49 PM

scottrc

I couldn't stand it any longer, and although I am knee deep in another build, I am starting my Enterprise today.  Laid out the colors, planes from Trumpeter, Starfighter decals, and PE from Tom's. 

 

Great to see you are underway with your Build Scott.....Cheers Mark

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 12:41 AM

allan

Bish, you pulled it off! Really nice to see a ship coming off your bench.  

 

Thanks allan, it was nice to be able to build one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 3:38 PM

Thanks, Mark.  

I'm just about finished with the Dauntlesses, so can maybe post photos soon, and get them installed on the hanger deck.

Next major step will be all the little PE parts--always "fun" and challenging.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by raider-hall on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:54 PM

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:57 PM
Looking good, raider. Looking forward to seeing her colorful camouflage measure.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by raider-hall on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:59 PM

This build makes my head hurt. Almost done with the port side. Starboard side this weekend.

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