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WHO NEEDS ENGINES ? THE 2017 GLIDER GROUP BUILD

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:47 AM

WannabeFarmboy

Question: The tests of the V-1 were glider tests, and the early models glided into their targets because they ran out of fuel....

Aaaannnddd I just re-read the part about guided bomb. So, sign me up.

 

Welcome ...

but the V1 weapon is more correctly a missile, wasn't guided, merely pointed in a particular direction, & when they reached their pre-set distance, the engine was cut, & it was deliberately nose-dived into the ground, so they didn't glide anyway...

The manned (or woman-ed by Hanna Reitsch) prototype Fieseler Fi 103R Reichenberg 

could be considered a glider?

 

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Posted by WannabeFarmboy on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:18 AM

Question: The tests of the V-1 were glider tests, and the early models glided into their targets because they ran out of fuel. Would a V-1 count for this GB? I ask because I've got a 1/48 Tamiya V-1 that I bought to display beside the Hawker Tempest I'm currently working on. If I'm gonna build it anyway... Ya know?

Aaaannnddd I just re-read the part about guided bomb. So, sign me up. 

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Posted by Wirraway on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:04 AM
PANZERJAGER that is looking good. I'll get you on the roster as soon as i've sorted out my computer woes.

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Monday, February 6, 2017 3:38 AM

Quick update on the Grunau Baby....

A rushed gloss coat came back & bit me producing a horrible reptilian scale effect...

A few hours of sanding & repainting with a 40/60 mix of Tamiya white/silver (with a shot of Future to harden/gloss it) has brought it back.

From research with The Museum Of Army Flying, it appears that the Silver Dope/yellow stripe scheme was post-war, D'oh...

More research!

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, February 3, 2017 9:30 PM

It does look like the resin will fit OK. 

John

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Friday, February 3, 2017 10:05 AM

I don't know if I am in yet, but,

Here are some progres picks.

Crappy kit, I will need to do a lot of filling and panel scribing.

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:25 AM

I haven't been on here for a while.

This is the only glider I oun, so this is the perfect excuse to build it.

Count me in with a Czech Model  1/48 Blohm und Voss Bv 40 armored glider fighter.

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Posted by Wirraway on Monday, January 30, 2017 3:09 AM
Lovely work there John- looking forward to your next effort.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:09 PM

Gamera, the Me-321 does take up a lot of shelf space.

Here is the C-53D to go along with the CG-4A I did for this GB.   I put the build thread in Aircraft because, well, it's not a glider.  More gliders to come.  The Horsa next.

John

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Posted by Wirraway on Friday, January 27, 2017 2:01 AM

I had forgotten just how big a beastie the Gigant is.  Here is the wingspan compared to a 1/48 B-17.  Hard to believe a company actually made a 1/48 version.  All those little actuators on the control surfaces! - Admiral- you know what I'm talking about- sanding seams and ejector marks on those tiny parts !  (definately going to build all the 1/72 kits before the eyesight goes) Thankfully not to much tweezerpault with the little parts.

Are we missing a few members ?  Are we down to a trio ?

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:54 AM

Jeaton01 nice bat!

Thanks for really interesting info, confirmation of at least one Grunau/T5 contempory serial number.

I've read Slingsby built the Grunau Baby as a T5 under license & I've seen some WW2 gliding school pics of various impressed early marks in what appears to be silver with yellow bands as well as a Gull/Petrel in the above black/yellow/camo scheme.

Confusing, but interesting! I've yet to find any start/end dates for the silver/yellow scheme, but by the time I did my Air Traing Corps gliding '77-'79, the Sedbergs & Kirby Cadet T3's were in white/red.

Sooo Silver/yellow for this bird, & b/y/c for the next one...

Silver Dream Machine

Pegs & pinholes to give a positive join, & a tiny lip round the front cockpit for the screen.
pre-shading a bit of a dud for me, will rethink....

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 1:13 PM

Jon, here is the relevant section from Aircraft Colors and Markings, 1907-1954 by Bruce Robertson.  The rule was 3 foot wide stripes 6 feet apart applied oblique to the centerline of the fuselage.  I think oblique means 45 degrees as that is all I have ever seen pictured.  Also the bottom of a Baynes Bat I built some time ago.  I am surprised to find that Grunau Babys were used by the British military in WW II.

 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:42 AM

Wirraway
Jon that is looking good.

Fuselage closed up (after 3-part instrument panel replaced with other one on sprue... Indifferent )
 
Tiny 'lip' glued in round cockpit opening to give screen something to adhere to & 2nd silver-dope coat on major parts, minor dinks to fill & patch.
 
Decided leave the majority of the unused PE errr unused as If I can loose the instrument panel and a 1/4 of the seat belt PE... I'm not going to have a chance with the spar retention brackets!
 
Researching the width & position of the yellow trainer bands on RAF WW2 training gliders, anyone got input?
 
Pics soon
 

Wirraway
How is everyone else going?

Hope to see others' work soon Smile

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Posted by Wirraway on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 1:28 AM
Jon that is looking good. How is everyone else going ?

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:03 PM

Nice start. Jon.  Waldoes are what I wish for, along with the electron microscope.

John

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:31 AM

small weekend update:

small glider

pre-shading experiment:

shady

9 teeny-tiny PE bits that need painting just for the seatbelt, need an electron microscope!

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Posted by Wirraway on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:21 AM
Thanks John. I found your zwilling build on Swanny's page and am definately bookmarking those photos for reference (not looking forward to those spiral spinners- never attempted before - no decals in the Italeri kit- just red spirals, handpainted. Hmm, might have to look for some adftermarket decals. Paul.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:57 PM

Wirraway, the badge looks good.

My thought was that the cables attach in line with and right behind the engine nacelles that are closest to the fuselages, just from looking at the photo.  I think there were brackets that were external to the wing skin.  There must have been so means of disconnecting the cables, perhaps the brackets had latches of some time operated by the crew.  On the cable closest in the picture I think I can see a clevis on the end of the cable.

John

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:32 AM

Plastic has been cut.... Surprise

with 18 plastic parts & 38 PE! I should be done in less than a year.... Wink

Grunau Baby IIc a 

 

Grunau Baby IIc b

I've never built anything OOB, so watch this space for the twist.

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Posted by Wirraway on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:18 AM

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Posted by Wirraway on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:39 AM

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Posted by Wirraway on Friday, January 6, 2017 11:06 PM

Thanks for the info John.  That presents me with a whole new set of challenges !  I have just cracked the box on the Me 321.  Forgotten how big this thing is.  But I was pretty happy with how my Me 323 diorama came out, so looking forward to it.  This Old Testors Kit is OLD (1979)  Decals are cracked, still dont know whether to coat them in microscale or look for replacements.  I think I will be diving into the fuselage and the many small windows tonight !

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 1:03 PM

I seem to have an Italeri Horsa, four actually, how did I manage that?  Since spare parts will not be a challenge I will do one of those.  Also a Horten IV by Planet.

John

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 12:18 PM

DFS 230 first please jmart then the ram ship

& now John has limbered up, what's his 'main course' going to be?Wink

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:10 AM

Wirraway, I read that 10 mm steel cable was used.  I found one poor photo that looked like there were two attach points on the 321, at the front of each lower longeron.  On the He-111Z there is a photo that shows the cable attach points at about the rear spar and behind the two engines in the middle section closest to the fuselages.  I think a Y-harness must have been used on both ends but don't have photographic proof of that.

John

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Posted by Wirraway on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 6:24 AM
John I've been meaning to ask you about the Zwilling towing the Gigant. Did you find out anything about the towing points ? I assume the Germans used thick rope for towing gliders ? My diorama will have the zwilling attached to the Gigant so I need to establish where the attachment points were and a suitable scal rope/cable.

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Posted by Wirraway on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 4:15 AM

Welcome aboard ! Travel

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Friday, December 23, 2016 12:03 PM

Count me in..  I'll be doing a space shuttle orbiter.    J/K!! Whistling

 

Put me down for a 1/32 Revell ASK-21.

I'm a glider pilot, and I built a couple of these for my instructors.  Now I want one for myself :)

ASK-21 model

Here are the ships that we fly in my glider club.  Grob-103s. They are like budget ASK-21s.

Grob 103 Morgan

  1/32 Revell Duo Discus
  1/32 Revell ASK-21
  1/48 Ardpol SZD-51 Junior
  1/48 Czech Models Grumman Goose
  1/144 FineMolds Millennium Falcon

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Posted by JMart on Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:18 PM
John – That is a great build, thanks for sharing. Love the picture quality.
I would like to join the GB, but will probably be a couple months till I start, have other builds in the queue at the moment. New subject for me, should be interesting!
I have two gliders in my stash: Czech Model 1:48 BV-40 Armored Glider
 
 
 
 
Special Hobby 1:48 DFS 230C  - Rumanian Service 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:06 AM

No danger, Wirraway.  I have an inquiry in to the Air Force history office trying to find which C-47 towed the Fighting Falcon so I can put the C-47 in those markings.  It should be a couple of weeks at the soonest.  Got more gliders anyway.

John

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