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Posted by damouav on Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:02 PM

Eric - Let me clarify my early post, it was 6am when I posted it. I used a translusent adhesive film which is what I obtained from the local signwriter (3meters for $20-) which I'm unsure of the brand. The 3M is just the low tack orange painters tape I used for masking the larger areas. The paint I used was cured for several days, and was a laquer. I prefer the hard edge than the soft edge, bnut it is dependent on the aircarft. One thing to note with using the mask like I did is you get a lip were paint build up against the film. I wet sanded using 4000 thru 12000 micro mesh to knock off the paint "ridge"

Bossman - Thanks, It's a very good kit that Mr. Tamiya has designed.

PJ - No doubt you will do a grea t job, looking forward to following your progress.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:43 PM

Thanks guys,

TJ, thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.

I sanded the seams and attached the cockpit then added some Mr. Dissolved Putty on the new seams. Everything seems to be going smoothly, so to speak.

Chris, yes they do although I am displaying them extended.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 5, 2017 12:48 AM

Damian, really nice work on the Mossie, great work on the camo.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 5, 2017 12:49 AM

Coming along well with the Tonka Steve.

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Posted by damouav on Monday, June 5, 2017 1:01 AM

Thanks Bish, I'm pretty happy with how the overall paint work went down, not so much with the just finished gloss coat. Bloody dust every where, no matter that I hit it with air and tack cloth.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 5, 2017 7:44 AM

Toshi: Wow, she looks terrific! Another beauty for your wall!!! 

Steve: She's coming right along! 

Damouav: Great job there on the camo! I believe I read somewhere that the RAF used rubber mats as masks when spraying the camo. So therefore if correct the hard edge is right. 

PJ: Looks like an awesome kit. I agree, with that level of detail you don't need much if any PE at all. 

I'm with Eric here on 1/32nd scale though. I'll build a 1/48th or 1/72nd kit straight from the box but with 1/32nd I feel an urge to try to superdetal as best I can. It's one of the main reasons I'm still fumbling around with a Tamiya 1/32nd Zero a year and a half after I started it and still am nowhere near finishing. 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Monday, June 5, 2017 9:15 AM
Say Bish, I'd like to add another model to the Group Build, that is if it fits the category of RAF. In going through my kit stash, I found an old 1/72 Airfix Spitfire, with markings for 303 Squadron (Free Polish air force pilots, but flying under the auspices of the RAF, so I believe it qualifies)...

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 5, 2017 9:16 AM

Yep, it certainly does. Will add it to the roster.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bossman on Monday, June 5, 2017 11:27 AM

Hello All,

Here are the pics I promised.  Alas - there was no sunshine this AM before I left for work (overcast) so you'll have to settle for some crummy indoor lighting pics.

I painted a first coat of camo over the sky tailband, as all of my decal options don't have one.

There is nice detail in the gear bay - but also some very pesky injection pin marks that proved impossible for me to remove.  It's a tight area with alot of raised detail that I wanted to keep.  The best I could do was to knock them down a bit by cutting a 3mm square of sand paper, laying it in the gear bay, and rubbing it around with any small pokey stick I could find.  A little strategically placed grime might help to hide them a bit.

That's all for now.

Bish - I'll miss your British Humor guy.   

Chris

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 5, 2017 12:13 PM

Nice work there Chris.

And don'ty worry, he will be back. Just giving him a break.

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, June 5, 2017 2:58 PM
I'll stand correction, but methinks the "humor guy" is Hugh Laurie as he appeared in Season 3 of Black Adder - one of the funniest series in history.

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, June 5, 2017 3:09 PM
I'd guess 303 squadron would qualify. It was the most successful RAF Hurricane squadron during the Battle of Britain. One of the few smart things done by Chamberlain and company in the late 30s was to modernize the RAF and prepare Commonwealth training programs to create a larger pilot and aircrew pool - so by 1945 crewmen from Oz, NZ and Canada had proven vital for all RAF operations. The infusion of Polish and other pilots from Hitler's victims was an unexpected bonus - many came fully trained and some with combat experience. That was a big help in 1940 when some of the Brit rookies had only rudimentary training and helped pad the scores for LW vets like Galland.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 5, 2017 4:04 PM

EBergerud
I'll stand correction, but methinks the "humor guy" is Hugh Laurie as he appeared in Season 3 of Black Adder - one of the funniest series in history.
 

No correction needed, you are correct. That is Hugh Laurie in his role as the Prince Regent.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, June 5, 2017 4:08 PM

damouav

So I have made significant progress with my Mossie, but have ran into problems with missing images.

I completed the engine nacells, fuselage,  wings,  horizontal stabliser, wing attacment and seam filling and the only photos I can find are after the first primer coat and after the base colour was shoot and camo masking. I have checked the SD card, my download directory and my back ups and all to no avail.

MRP white primer coat showed significany "ghost" seams which took ages to resolve. As the primer is laquer based, it probably reacted with mr desolved filler originally used. CA all the way next time.

Once the seams and other areas were sorted, I AB decanted and thinned Tamiya AS11 base, wet sanded and then another light coat. I then started the Camo masking using 3M masking and airbrush masking film which I got from my local signwriting company, The Sign Company (Thanks Twist). The kit came with full size camo layouts for the NF version with a black underside, this version was not in service long due to drag issues, so I just used the camo layout, which is not accurate but I had limited refernce photos, which is a poor excuse.

I used more Tamiya AS paint (AS9) which again I decanted and thinned and sprayed.

I copied the supplied painting scheme that Mr. Tamiya kindly supplied. Placed it over the masking film and cut through both print and film. I know the edges are hard, but my POV is that if you stand 1m away from the model to view it, in scale your actually 48m away. So hard edges it is.

Next steps are minor fix ups, gloss coat and decals...

 

 
That is an exceptionally fine and smooth paint finish, damouav.  Very well done.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, June 5, 2017 4:14 PM

Nice job with the cockpit and getting the seams out of the fuselage.  Looking very good, there!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, June 5, 2017 4:15 PM

Beautifully done camouflage on your Hurricane, Bossman.  Quite eye-catching!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, June 5, 2017 7:02 PM

EBergerud
I'll stand correction, but methinks the "humor guy" is Hugh Laurie as he appeared in Season 3 of Black Adder - one of the funniest series in history.
 

Could not agree more... LOVED Black Adder! I'd get to laughing so hard I couldn't see straight! 

Doug

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:41 AM

Chris: She looks really good! And I too hate those @##@ injection pin marks in stuff like the landing gear wells. I've tried a few different ways to fill them but still haven't found any really good one yet. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:44 AM

Gamera

Chris: She looks really good! And I too hate those @##@ injection pin marks in stuff like the landing gear wells. I've tried a few different ways to fill them but still haven't found any really good one yet. 

 

Yes, i am sure they are put there on purpose to test us.

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:54 AM

CMK02 - Thanks, yes I was able to get a nice finish, its turned to sh#t with the gloss coating...

Bossman - Excellent progress on hurri.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:58 AM

Have you tried sanding out the dust.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:12 AM

damouav, if you could find out the brand name for that adhesive film you used, that would be a HUGE help! Thanks in advance...  Wink

P.S. Awesome camouflage job!!

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:21 AM

Hey Bish,

Yes, I wet sanded with 4000 thru to 12000, got some of it out, applied another coat it was OK.

Decals went down with allot of issues, another story. But the final lock in gloss coat over the decals is when it has all gone bad.

I will provide an update soon, just pretty pi#@$@^÷#=ed off with Alclad Aqua Gloss I gotta say, I should have used the MRP semi gloss.

Damian

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:27 AM

Armor_Aficionado

damouav, if you could find out the brand name for that adhesive film you used, that would be a HUGE help! Thanks in advance...  Wink

P.S. Awesome camouflage job!!

Thanks for the feedback.

The masking film I got dosent have any branding on the backing carrier paper, just call your local signwritting company and asked if they have any airbrush/spray painting masking film.

Or google sign writing suppliers, they will stock it. Just be careful to check the adhesive is not too strong or you could rip chunks out of your paint. I painted with laquers and let it sit about 3 days prior to any masking.

Another product is called Frisket, which should be easy available.

http://www.grafixarts.com/products/frisket-film/

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 9:11 AM

damouav

 

 
Armor_Aficionado

damouav, if you could find out the brand name for that adhesive film you used, that would be a HUGE help! Thanks in advance...  Wink

P.S. Awesome camouflage job!!

 

 

Thanks for the feedback.

The masking film I got dosent have any branding on the backing carrier paper, just call your local signwritting company and asked if they have any airbrush/spray painting masking film.

Or google sign writing suppliers, they will stock it. Just be carfull to check the adhevice is not too strong or you could rip chunks out of your paint. I painted with laquers and let it sit about 3 days prior to any masking.

Another product is called Frisket, which should be easy available.

http://www.grafixarts.com/products/frisket-film/

 

Ditto on the compliments of your paint job.  I use Frisket.  It comes in different thicknesses and both Hobby Lobby and Michaels stock it.  

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 10:01 AM

damouav

Hey Bish,

Yes, I wet sanded with 4000 thru to 12000, got some of it out, applied another coat it was OK.

Decals went down with allot of issues, another story. But the final lock in gloss coat over the decals is when it has all gone bad.

I will provide an update soon, just pretty pi#@$@^÷#=ed off with Alclad Aqua Gloss I gotta say, I should have used the MRP semi gloss.

Damian

 

I have had mixed results with Alclad Aqua. I only use it on armour to protect the paint during weathering. I like how it looks but of the 3 times i have used it, twice my washes have attacked the paint. I thought i was not laying it down properly but i never had an issue with future, so i am still not sure about it.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 10:44 AM

I use either Future or Aqua Gloss and never had issues with either as barrier coats. My only concern is that for some reason Future sprays a little pebbly regardless what psi or thinning ratio I use. On the other hand, I handbrush Future and it comes out smooth as glass. Aqua Gloss sprays really smooth.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:50 AM

Damouav: Oh krap!!!!! After as great as your camo came out that totally blows! I know it can be saved but I swear I'd have to walk away or else hurl the thing into wall... 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:16 PM

There's a frisket like product sold only at Home Depot I believe. It's called Sure Swatch. It comes either in a roll or 9X12" sheets (price starts at $3 for three sheets.) It's a textured clear plastic on which you can draw easily with a pencil or marker. The reverse side is adhesive coated and covered with removable paper. The idea of the stuff is to paint a "swatch" and put it up on a wall and see if you like the color. After checking it out, you remove the plastic. I've got a free sample piece and think it's going to be perfecto for masking: It will cut with a scissors or knife easily. Search the stuff on You Tube and you can see a demo.

Injection pin markers - a test indeed. And because I'm fallen I almost always ignore them - not many people will check the insides of the wheel wells of my models. (I wonder if a Dremel wouldn't work for something like that. I'm sure there are tons of neat things to do with a Dremel, I just haven't found very many. I use "Dremel" generically - I bought a Chinese copy that plugs in (whopee) and works great.

Eric

 

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:45 PM

I'm pages behind.....

Beav, you're a brave man building a 2-winger. Looks good to me so far.

Damian, those tiny things were your first PE? Holy cow, you aren't goint to have any trouble with PE. And later on, you're all camo'd up already and looking good. And later yet, ....I'm not understanding what went haywire with the Alclad Gloss? What happened? Sorry, btw.

Eric, welcome, and nice start.

Toshi, your Mosquito is a work of art. You really did well. I too am glad you joined in on this GB and I sure do hope you enjoyed your first GB as I enjoyed sharing it with you. And maybe you'll join in for another later? (In the meantime, I'll enjoy watching your Eagle). Oh, and it was fun seeing you have to slow down a little due to the complexity of the Skeeter kit. Stick out tongue

Steve, coming along just fine. I'm sure you'll figure the holes out.

Ernie, happy to see you underway. I'd never heard of a Revell Level 5 kit, let alone seen one. Geez, that cockpit detail might beat my Eduard Brassin cockpit, that is if I ever work up the nerve to start the thing. Are the Level 5 kits something new from Revell or have they been around?

Chris, nice paint work there. Yes

If I missed anyone it wasn't intentional. And if I got confused in replying, that's normal.

I haven't made progress in a few days. To my surprise I spent the afternoon custom painting my future step son in law's playstation controller. I have no idea if hobby paint has any durability, I guess we'll find out. Tongue Tied

 

 

 

 

 

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