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Posted by aeroplanegripper on Friday, December 22, 2017 10:59 AM

Hello everyone,

I have finally had a chance to continue with the build of the Eduard 1/72 Spitfire Mk XVI, I have been away from home working and with the holidays fast approaching family responsibilities have come first.

I have manged to complete the painting and assembly of the cockpit, and it is really well detailed. The pieces that Eduard supply with the kit is truly impressive, and the assembly so far has been painless.

 I have painted the cockpit and fuselage parts with Alclad RAF Interior Green and Airframe Aluminium. Details were picked out with Humbrol Matt Black, Gunmetal and Metalcote Aluminium.

 If circumstances allow Ill try to get some more plastic time in over the festive period. 

Thanks for looking.

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 22, 2017 1:22 PM

Good to see it coming along Mark, looking nice.

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, December 22, 2017 1:23 PM

Time to play catch up on this one.  Doing the old Monogram 1/48 Mossie from back in the '60's, as the night fighter version.

Have to cut off nose for the different versions the kit can be built as.

Painted interior RAF interior green.

Opening up the main gear doors.

Pit done and fuselage closed up, fighter nose on.

Wings and tail surfaces on.

Props and antennas on, masked and ready for paint.

That is where she is at right now, will get her painted this w/e. Then brush paint the landing gear and decals.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 22, 2017 1:31 PM

Nice to see it underway GH, looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:28 AM

Mark: Great job there on the cockpit! 

GH: Cool! Love seeing these vintage kits built and you're doing a fine job of it! 

 

BTW: Finished the green camo on the Tempest so I'm mostly done with painting other than cleaning up overspray and leaks under the mask (cross your fingers there won't be much). Took photos but then forgot to bring the camera to work where I'm posting now (working over the weekend and Christmas). Will try to get them up ASAP. 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:14 AM

Anyway, here we go. Sorry, I did take more photos but I must have been shaking the camera or something to that effect since they came out really blurry. And the green is darker than that, for some reason in the photo it came out much lighter.

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, December 25, 2017 3:54 PM
Nice Mossie there GH, I like those old kits too. Cliff, I can't see your photos for some reason. Cheers Tony

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 25, 2017 3:56 PM

Cliff, same here, all i get are those little black squares with a cross.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 26, 2017 7:26 AM

Sorry guys. I went back and cropped the photos after I posted them which you could do with PhotoBucket since it saved and replaced the cropped images with the original name. Looks like with ImageShack I broke the link when I did this. Whoops... Dunce

  

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 26, 2017 7:47 AM

Thats better, loks nice, good job on the scheme.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:22 PM

Thanks Bish, I was super happy with how she came out- only one tiny blemish where the paint leaked under the mask on the nose. Hopefully I can get that fixed this weekend and do a little airbrush streaking with thinned light grey paint. I forgot if it was Lawdog or Femis that showed me the technique but I love the results. 

And then peel off the underside masking along with the yellow leading edges and hope and pray I didn't get any leakage there. Hopefully she'll be ready for decals then.   

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:53 PM
Bish. For my third entry I'd like to finish up a Tamiya Mosquito that has been sitting on the shelf of doom for at least 5 years. It is quite a bit farther along then most would accept. But it has been sitting for years and this might give me the push to finish it. John

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 28, 2017 2:03 AM

Well you have already done 2 so you have earned the badge, anything else is a bonus. Is it 48th or 72nd.

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, December 28, 2017 3:52 AM
48th. Mk.XIII nightfighter. Thanks

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:55 AM

Got the Mossie added.

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Posted by aeroplanegripper on Thursday, December 28, 2017 5:05 AM

Thats a cracking looking Tempest Gamera, well done. 

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:13 AM

Hey thanks Mark!

BTW: Fixed the leakage on nose and streaked the plane, then peeled off the rest of the mask. Pleasantly surprised no leakage or overspray and only one issue. Somehow when I masked off the yellow leading edges I left the portside about a mm wider on the wingtip then the centre of the wing when it should get narrower toward the tip instead. There's a slight ridge there from the mask that I'll have to carefully sand and then remask and cut down the leading edge a tiny bit. Overall I'm thrilled that's all I have to deal with.

 

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Posted by aeroplanegripper on Thursday, December 28, 2017 2:43 PM

Hello all,

Well post Crimbo festivities, and attendance of the British traditional Christmas institution that is the pantomine, with our grandaughter, I got a little bit more done of the excellent Eduard Spitfire XVI.

The fuselage, apart from the nose air intake has been assembled.

 There was a notable gap on the two piece cowling, but I think that was my fault more than the build of the kit, and I have filled that with putty, and smoothed it, but I may have to keep adding to it. There was a very slight gap on the rear stabilisers and I have filled them as well.

I have had a change of heart on the markings of this Spit, so sorry Bish, it wont now be the Bentwaters based Spit as I cant confirm the markings that were on the decal sheet from Hannants. So as a Londoner, I have gone for a kite based at North Weald with 601 (City of London) Squadron. Its in High Speed Silver, and as Ive never done a silver spit before, the Alclad will come out the box!

  

 I have made a start on the 3 piece underwing radiators by painting the interiors Airframe Aluminium. I have also previously painted the wheel wells RAF Interior Green and added a Flory Dark wash.Tomorrow will be clean up and adding the elevators and chin air intake. Will post again then.

Thanks for looking.

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:02 PM

She's looking great so far! And love the natural metal, I've done plenty of Spits but none of the unpainted variety so far.

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:38 PM

 

Holidays were very good and my wife and I came down with nasty colds for penance. Anyway, I haven't done as much as I should on the Sunderland. Best get moving because this will be a project and the real world is going to interfere shortly.

 

As noted earlier, this kit is large. It's clumsy just moving around the sprues. This is my first Italeri kit and so far it's pretty good. And it's not Tamiya. (The one problem of doing Tamiya models is that you become accustomed to smart engineering and good fit. Spoiled I guess, but I don't quite understand why other companies can't get closer than they do. I've heard new tool Airfix compared with new tool Italeri - I hope that's not the case because I have five of them.) For instance, parts are not placed on the sprues with any definite order. In a three part assembly, the parts might come from three different sprues. (The sprue map provided is very helpful - it's hardly necessary with Tamiya.)

 

The sprue gates are often much too large. Last Xmas I bought myself a pair of "God's Hand" sprue nippers. They're very delicate and I try to use them only when needed, but the smooth cut given is exceptional and is very handy when a bad cut could give you a damaged part - especially a clear part. (For most uses my Tamiya nippers are just fine. They're very well made double bladed cutters. God's Hand and competitors like Gundam Planet and DISPAE ST-A have only one thin cutting blade - the second one is thicker and much less sharp and serves to hold the plastic. If both blades cut, they push the plastic together - usually no problem - unless it is. The single blade type greatly lessens this squeezing of the plastic. Phil Flory has a fine review of the DISPAE ST-A cutters and you can see the idea in action. A luxery, but worth it to me. Very handy when a model ship is in front of me.)

 

The interior is just fine. In one area Italeri appears to have done very well. The rear turret can be applied at the end of the build - very good news because the mg barrel has "wreck me" written all over it. It appears that it will fit very well. The front turret can be recessed a good distance for the plane to be in "anchored mode." This also can be done later and is well fitted. (From what I can tell from pics, the front turret is always retracted unless the plane is in flight. That way crewmen can move around the front end of this very big plane.) If luck holds, I'll have a water base and a little cord will come out of the bow attached to an unseen anchor. It may still end up on a kind of trolly. We'll see.

 

 docked2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

So it's possible that a little of the interior will be seen - but as usual, not much. The parts provided are more than adequate for me. I am very pleased with my color for RAF interior green.

 

 interior by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

If the front turret was assembled deployed there would be no reason for any interior beyond the cockpit. Instead for reasons I can't understand, there's a "sort of" interior. A walkway leads to the side guns where it is barely visible. Beyond that, I don't think you could see anything inside even made a complex diorama of groundcrew readying the plane. And because this kit is not Tamiya, the pieces are just a little too wide. I junked everything below the walkway, but didn't quite trim things enough for a perfect fit. (I'm not sure that was going to happen regardless.) But some acrylic putty will do the job I think. Here's the fuselage before and after assembly. (There's a Com.Art black wash to dirty things up.)

 

 kit3 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 fuselage by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

For assembly I'm following a very useful online quick build. The Sunderland has lots of windows - dozens of them. The quick build recommends using Micro Klear. I found the clear parts went in easily and used them. They do look better than Klear windows and they don't leave residue which Klear most certainly can.

 

That means I'll have to mask all of the windows. And mask a lot of other things. In my experience Eduard canopy masks have never been perfect, but on a kit like this, with a lot of glass, I'm glad I've got some. Indeed, that's what I'm doing now. Masking. Masking aircraft clear parts reminds me why people like armor modeling.

 

More later.

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:01 PM
It will be a nice build when done Gamera because you know what you're doing. But still. why fight it? It's hard to figure model companies. The bread and butter for the hobby for fifty years has been major WWII fighters and German tanks. I don't think it's possible to offer more German tanks, but there are odd gaps in the WWII fighter market. Because the RAF followed continental doctrine and sacrificed range for performance, it sat on the sidelines while the fighters and bombers of US 8th AF fought the biggest sustained air war in history over Germany in 1944. (The RAF did bring all of their magnificent planes over to the continent after Falaise and were there to make life interesting for German fighters - especially jets - after about September 44. The great late model Spits were doing hourly patrol over almost every field in northwest Germany making landing and take-off risky.) But the Brits did come up with the splendid Typhoon and Tempests - arguably the best solution for a top-notch fighter/fighter bomber. (Jug fans might disagree.) Yet, unless I've missed something badly, there isn't a high quality kit of either the Typhoon or Tempest. Add those planes to the "who's going to make a good P-38" list. (Seriously guys: if Tamiya announced a new tool P-38L in 1/48, don't you think it would sell? I'd pay $70 without a thought. I bet the 1/32 scale fans would pay $150.) Eric

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:18 PM
Santa brought me a DVD of Dunkirk. I've cobbled together a pretty neat 5.1 system (my left/right speakers have 18" woofers) and was rattling the walls watching it. Very good flick in my view. I've spent a lot of time thinking about WWII and I still can't think of an ad hoc military operation in history conducted with the skill and elan of Dynamo: one miracle that was a miracle. And came as Halifax and others in the British War Cabinet was talking seriously of asking Italy to arrange peace talks with Hitler. We'll never know if Churchill would have stood the pressure if Gort had surrendered the BEF on May 28 - as seemed almost certain. (I've heard the Gary Oldman Churchill flick "Darkest Hour" is based on exactly this time frame as explored brilliantly by John Lukacs in "Five Days in London. Well worth watching if so.) A whole civilization dodged an ugly bullet then. Salut RAF/RN and Winston Churchill.

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 29, 2017 1:44 AM

Thats fine by me Mark, will be interesting to see that in silver. WhatAlclad are you useing for this, youcan get High Speed silver in enamel at least.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 29, 2017 1:45 AM

G, that is really well done, nice work getting that yellow leading edge.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 29, 2017 1:48 AM

Eric, that is a big looking aircraft, looking forwardto seeing thiscome together.

I got Dunkrik asa pressie as well.I had seen it at the cinema and so the family knew that i was planning on buying it.

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, December 29, 2017 2:10 AM

Mark, 

The Spit is looking good.  I'll have to find me a silver one someday.

Gamera,

I'm liking the Tempest.  Looking forward to seeing it done.

Eric,

There's something about a big lumbering flying boat.  I got to go aboard Kermit Weeks' Sunderland at his museum many moons ago.  By then it had been converted to civilian use and was supposedly the last airworthy four engined flying boat. Got to admit, it was something even in civilian trim. Weeks has one heck of a collection, I hope he reopens his doors for the entire collection soon. I thought I had pics of it on my Fotki page, but apparently I never got around to uploading them. I've still got them, it's just that the computer they're on had it's motherboard die and I've yet to have them recovered.  

Bish,

Put me down for the new tool Airfix 1/72 Typhoon Ib.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 29, 2017 2:31 AM

Got it added lewbud. I can't remember if you mentioned it, are you still doing the Sabre?

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, December 29, 2017 4:57 AM

Bish

Got it added lewbud. I can't remember if you mentioned it, are you still doing the Sabre?

 

I am.  I also have plans to do a what if using the ancient Airfix Westland Whirlwind as a night fighter.  I may take a break afterwards.  I've already started thinking of builds for the Commonwealth GB.  Maybe by the time you get to the FAA build, the new Airfix Phantom will be on this side of the pond.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 29, 2017 5:19 AM

Good, really looking forwardto seeing that. And that Whirlwind sound like a nice idea, i am sure it would have found itself in that role if it had stayed in service.

Hopefully yes, its release date has been pushed back a couple of times, not sure what the issue is. But from what i gather its meant to be released at the end of next week.

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Posted by aeroplanegripper on Friday, December 29, 2017 6:42 AM

Eric, fantastic progress on the Sunderland, I would love to build one but i just dont have the room to store it! The "Flying Porcupine" is a real favourite of mine and I am always impressed by the size of it when I look at the survivors at Duxford and Hendon. My late father had a soft spot for them as well, even though he remembered having to unload them during the Berlin Airlift on Lake Havel.

Bish, thanks mate, Im going to do it a mixture of Alclad High Speed Silver and Airframe Aluminium/Polished Aluminium on selected panels, hopefully! I also treated myself to the Dunkirk BluRay having been to the cinema to see it, great to see the Duxford Spitfires and Blenhiem doing the RAF proud. 

Lewbud, enjoy the Airfix Typhoon mate, it is a beauty. I have one in my stash and am looking forward to doing it.

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

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