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Posted by BBorBust on Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:24 PM

Forgot to post this here. But my KGV is finally done. I will post a few pics up here. I have more pics on the KGV build thread in the ships section if anyone cares to see more!

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:56 PM

You got it Rob. I'll get you ip with your quote later tonight. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, September 6, 2020 10:38 PM

Very nicly done BB.

Congrats on her. I'll get it up on the wall.

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Posted by rob44 on Monday, September 7, 2020 6:37 AM

Beautiful Ship!

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:10 PM

I feel ready to finish this GB as the Midway has sailed into the completion harbor over at American Flag etc.

I spent this afternoon getting the boxes and model out and organizing myself.

I follow Rob44 in his excellent build; mine is the earlier version of Compass Rose in the story.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:16 AM

Oh yeah Bill, that's going to be sweet!

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, September 12, 2020 4:53 PM

Here's a photo on Sackville. Can anyone identify the vertical objects on top of the depth charges? They come in the kit and in the Eduard PE set, and I've found photos of them onboard corvettes as early as 1942, but I would like to know what they are.

Smoke generators maybe?

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 12, 2020 4:59 PM

Bill, smoke generators would be my guess. Though a differant design, they do have a similar apperance to the ones on the German S-100.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, September 13, 2020 12:45 AM

Bish is exactly right, they are M1 smoke floats.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 13, 2020 9:43 AM

Thank you!

Following up on the tip, here's more.

https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/smoke/index.htm#pg57

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Posted by rob44 on Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:14 PM

Bill,

 

I really look forward to your modification of the revelle kit to the original type corvette described in "The Cruel Sea". I think it will be a lot of work, but I am sure very satisfying!

If I might the Eduards railing and ship modifcation PE sets are great, you do not need the armorment one in my opnion, the L'Arsenal dinghys, decck gun and depth carge racks are great.

I do have an extra Eduards PE railing set that I would send to you if interested. Send me a private message.

 

Rob

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, October 11, 2020 8:18 PM

Time to bring this GB back to the top of the list Wink

im off and running with my KGV build. Working tonight on supporting the hull for a waterline model. This one will be, as usual lately, an out of box build. My only adders will be what i have around the house already As I have more time than anything else haha

Now i need to go through and check out BB's KGV for pointers. I remember check'n it out months ago and noting I needed to follow along for future reference!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, October 12, 2020 8:20 AM

Yeah Chris, that deck need some supporting. Good start.

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:14 PM

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:20 PM

That looks great Chris!

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:40 PM

Hey guys I posted up a technique question on waves related to KGV. Check it outhere,

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_techniques_and_reference_materials/f/13/t/186694.aspx and toss out any ideas and opinions you have.

edit- i got the hyperlink to work in the past so it showed just a short title but no go today i guess.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:54 PM

So a couple of you guys have built the Tamiya KGV and you other swabbies have probably seen something similar. Pirate Could you share how you dealt with these ejector pin marks? The bottom ones will be covered completely by the pom poms(i think that's what this tub is). The top ones are really visible though. The square boxes on the laft and right are 9mm apart outside to outside for reference.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, November 4, 2020 8:12 PM

I generally will do a light scrape with a chisel blade, followed by a light sand if they are really shallow.  Deeper ones will require filler.  I like PPP for ease of sanding. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:14 PM

I'm using PE so I didn't mess with it. 

Otherwise, I'd do the same as GH

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, November 9, 2020 8:17 PM

Couple paint questions for you guys that have finished..

Modelcrazy what colors are you using for the Prince of Wales?

BB or Bust what colors did you use for the Queen Elizabeth?

 I'm having trouble finding the right colors for KGV. Hoping some of what you guys have researched could help me out. Any place that really helped you get the color choice nailed down?

goose

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 8:00 AM

Chris,

That was a hard one. I (am) mixing my onw. The refrence material on the subject is difficult to pin down. I do know Lifecolor makes a RN Western and Eastern approches sets. I didn't see them until I had already painted quite a bit.

They are't hard to work with either. Seem to spray well but haven't tried to bruch them yet.

  

Steve

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 10:23 AM

Jamie Duff, who took over the paint line now know as Sovereign Colourcoats, has an interesting writeup of the KGV here:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235060168-hms-king-george-v-in-1942/

Another paint brand that does Naval paints is Hataka - but can't comment on how accurate.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 5:40 PM

That articles pretty interesting. Seems hard to pull colors out of it. Could just be me lol

MC I'm going down the mixing road myself. those kits are hard to get ahold of without paying more than they cost for shipping Boo Hoo

spent some time looking at scale colors. Think I'm going to try those at the very least. I went ahead and ordered a few colors to try. https://scalecolors.com/
t
hey have the basic royal navy colors. They did have a new set for the cruise ships and a couple of those gray blues look good. I'll post up some spoon samples when they arrive.

Edit- man I'm still going over all the references to tones and this is my favorite run on sentence that runs me in circles lol

"Observation No.1 names 507A, as do No's 63 and 65. Observation No. 61 names M.S.4. and 507C. None of the observations state B5 was on KGV, but HMS Anson is noted as having the 507A substituted for MS1, from which the other 3 shades were the same. Furthermore, the summary table of the report lists ships without B5 as "No B5" in that box - for KGV it says "N.K.""

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, November 20, 2020 10:07 PM

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:48 AM

I think the one on the left is closer to the picture

Steve

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:11 PM

Thanks MC. I made some alterations - added more grey to some and more white to the grey lol

So I really like the 1942 camo. Of course the ship is 1945, so it's a good thing I'm not building for accuracy. Here's the profile shot

Of course they are out of stock everywhere. I did find the AK colors but in Europe so I could paint in a few months if I want to pay for shipping. Instead I spent some more time mixing. Here's my color pallet now sprayed over white primer preshaded in grimy black for hull weld lines. figured might as well see how well the paint covers and if there is anything to be done with some variation in the colors.



left to right they are 507C, B5, MS4, 507A

the Vallejo Model Color mix as of now is:

507C 3:1 white to Light Grey

B5 10:1 Azure to Dark Sea Grey

MS4 10:1 Deck Tan to Light Grey

507A Lufwaffe Uniform WWII

You can just barely make out the preshading in a few spots. That's the iphone there as you can see most of it with the naked eye, except the B5 which for some reason covers the best. Will have to be careful with that one. If I can get a decent pic I'll post it for opinions. I'm on the fence about how the preshading looks and may try something different.

Now if only i could find some air brush thinner Tongue Tied went everywhere today and nobody had it. Maybe this will still be on hold as Amazon wants $20 for a bottle of the vallejo stuff. Distilled water here i come. Dare i risk it having not tried it before?

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:05 AM

That looks really close Chris. The British Eastern Approaches camo is hard to match.

Painting the superstructure and the funnels in that scheme are tough on the KGV class. Ask me how I know.

Steve

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:52 AM

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:42 AM

jgeratic

Found a pdf file of Vallejo mixes:

https://app.box.com/s/istm0needbufr1micfa71wvcgyfppi0a

Taken from this forum:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=161564

 

regards,

Jack

 

Jack that's a handy table! The commentary in that post is even better though. I will add I completely agree with the guy from Sovereign - Vallejo is smoking weed when they define their colors. I bought the intermediate blue and it is seriously a dark grey! Near as I can tell Vallejo has also changed their numbering compared to the color in the bottle over the years. Some of the colors don't match what the bottle says anymore so I go to the hobby store, shake up the bottle from the rack, then open it and see what it really looks like, then swear about what am I going to do now cause this silly numbering system on the rack makes no sense Censored

ModelCrazy you've confirmed that I need to keep all the superstructure pieces seperate until final assembly :-) I was honestly thining of building this one in pieces since it seems like everything is independent until you get to the final rigging. I even think I can rig both masts before final assembly. Then all I have left is the wires between masts. What direction did you take?

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list, we're down to a Monogram 1/72 SR-71 and that Tamiya P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo! And I just got a Trumpeter 1/32 F/A-18F!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:35 AM

TheMongoose
I even think I can rig both masts before final assembly. Then all I have left is the wires between masts. What direction did you take?

Absolutly!

Steve

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